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Old May 14th 11, 11:29 AM posted to sci.electronics.repair,sci.electronics.design,uk.rec.audio
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I have some vinatge headphones (Sennheiser HD424) and want to attach a new
plug.

Which color wires are the positive ones?

The colors in one of the leads are red & blue and in the other lead black &
yellow. (No wire is used as screening - there's just two wires in each
lead.)
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Old May 14th 11, 11:44 AM posted to sci.electronics.repair,sci.electronics.design,uk.rec.audio
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"Patrick"

I have some vinatge headphones (Sennheiser HD424) and want to attach a new
plug.

Which color wires are the positive ones?

The colors in one of the leads are red & blue and in the other lead black
&
yellow. (No wire is used as screening - there's just two wires in each
lead.)



** Stick the damn phones on your fat head and connect pairs of wires to a AA
battery until you hear a click.

Now you have your two pairs of wires.

Wire them to a plug any way around you like and connect the same AA to the
common and both positives at the same time.

If the click seems to comes from right inside your head - game over.

If you need more explanation - you do not deserve it.



...... Phil




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Old May 14th 11, 11:54 AM posted to sci.electronics.repair,sci.electronics.design,uk.rec.audio
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On 12:44 14 May 2011, Phil Allison wrote:


"Patrick"

I have some vinatge headphones (Sennheiser HD424) and want to attach a
new
plug.

Which color wires are the positive ones?

The colors in one of the leads are red & blue and in the other lead
black & yellow. (No wire is used as screening - there's just two
wires in each lead.)



** Stick the damn phones on your fat head and connect pairs of wires
to a AA battery until you hear a click.

Now you have your two pairs of wires.

Wire them to a plug any way around you like and connect the same AA to
the common and both positives at the same time.

If the click seems to comes from right inside your head - game over.

If you need more explanation - you do not deserve it.

..... Phil


The four wires are already grouped as two pairs, so we already know which
two wires go together.

I want to get the phasing right (even for headphones). I need to know
which color wire in each pair is the positive.

Are you familiar with decoding these red & blue and black & yellow
headphone wires?

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Old May 14th 11, 12:07 PM posted to sci.electronics.repair,sci.electronics.design,uk.rec.audio
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Patrick wrote:
I have some vinatge headphones (Sennheiser HD424) and want to attach a
new plug.


Which color wires are the positive ones?


The colors in one of the leads are red & blue and in the other lead
black & yellow. (No wire is used as screening - there's just two wires
in each lead.)


Black and blue are the commons. Not that it would make any difference if
you commoned red and yellow.

You can check for sure by unplugging the leads from each actual earpiece
(red and blue plugs), but be careful to pull on the actual plug only. The
pins are of slightly different sizes.

Hope you have a source of the muffs for these - they crumble to dust quite
quickly.

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Old May 14th 11, 12:22 PM posted to sci.electronics.repair,sci.electronics.design,uk.rec.audio
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On 14/05/2011 12:54, Patrick wrote:
On 12:44 14 May 2011, Phil Allison wrote:


"Patrick"

I have some vinatge headphones (Sennheiser HD424) and want to attach a
new
plug.

Which color wires are the positive ones?

The colors in one of the leads are red& blue and in the other lead
black& yellow. (No wire is used as screening - there's just two
wires in each lead.)



** Stick the damn phones on your fat head and connect pairs of wires
to a AA battery until you hear a click.

Now you have your two pairs of wires.

Wire them to a plug any way around you like and connect the same AA to
the common and both positives at the same time.

If the click seems to comes from right inside your head - game over.

If you need more explanation - you do not deserve it.

..... Phil


The four wires are already grouped as two pairs, so we already know which
two wires go together.

I want to get the phasing right (even for headphones). I need to know
which color wire in each pair is the positive.


No you don't need to know it. It will be abundantly clear if you have
the phase in one ear wrong by 180 degrees - unless that is you are deaf.

Are you familiar with decoding these red& blue and black& yellow
headphone wires?


I would hazard a guess red, yellow are positive and blue, black
negative. But why didn't you make a note of where the cables were
connected when you took the original apart?

There are only four wires as two trivially distinct pairs - the worst
that can happen is you need to flip a pair if you choose incorrectly.

Regards,
Martin Brown
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Old May 14th 11, 12:45 PM posted to sci.electronics.repair,sci.electronics.design,uk.rec.audio
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"Patrick"
Phil Allison wrote:
"Patrick"

I have some vinatge headphones (Sennheiser HD424) and want to attach a
new plug.

Which color wires are the positive ones?

The colors in one of the leads are red & blue and in the other lead
black & yellow. (No wire is used as screening - there's just two
wires in each lead.)



** Stick the damn phones on your fat head and connect pairs of wires
to a AA battery until you hear a click.

Now you have your two pairs of wires.

Wire them to a plug any way around you like and connect the same AA to
the common and both positives at the same time.

If the click seems to comes from right inside your head - game over.

If you need more explanation - you do not deserve it.



The four wires are already grouped as two pairs, so we already know which
two wires go together.

I want to get the phasing right (even for headphones). I need to know
which color wire in each pair is the positive.



** I just gave the the answer - you ****ing idiot.



..... Phil




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Old May 14th 11, 12:46 PM posted to sci.electronics.repair,sci.electronics.design,uk.rec.audio
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On 13:22 14 May 2011, Martin Brown wrote:

On 14/05/2011 12:54, Patrick wrote:
On 12:44 14 May 2011, Phil Allison wrote:


"Patrick"

I have some vinatge headphones (Sennheiser HD424) and want to
attach a new plug.

Which color wires are the positive ones?

The colors in one of the leads are red& blue and in the other lead
black& yellow. (No wire is used as screening - there's just two
wires in each lead.)


** Stick the damn phones on your fat head and connect pairs of wires
to a AA battery until you hear a click.

Now you have your two pairs of wires.

Wire them to a plug any way around you like and connect the same AA
to the common and both positives at the same time.

If the click seems to comes from right inside your head - game
over.

If you need more explanation - you do not deserve it.

..... Phil


The four wires are already grouped as two pairs, so we already know
which two wires go together.

I want to get the phasing right (even for headphones). I need to
know which color wire in each pair is the positive.


No you don't need to know it. It will be abundantly clear if you have
the phase in one ear wrong by 180 degrees - unless that is you are
deaf.

Are you familiar with decoding these red& blue and black& yellow
headphone wires?


I would hazard a guess red, yellow are positive and blue, black
negative. But why didn't you make a note of where the cables were
connected when you took the original apart?

There are only four wires as two trivially distinct pairs - the worst
that can happen is you need to flip a pair if you choose incorrectly.

Regards,
Martin Brown


Years ago someone wired up these headphones to a 1/4 inch plug and they
they say they don't know what polarity meant. There's no point following
their clueless wiring.

Out of phase headphone transducers create a far more subtle adverse
effect than that noticed in loudspeakers, so it is not something
immediately evident by A-B testing. Nor is testing necessary if someone
here knows what the color coding is.
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Old May 14th 11, 12:49 PM posted to sci.electronics.repair,sci.electronics.design,uk.rec.audio
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"Patrick = another PITA Jerk

Out of phase headphone transducers create a far more subtle adverse
effect than that noticed in loudspeakers, so it is not something
immediately evident by A-B testing.



** That is 100% ****ing BULL**** !!!!!!!!!

With any mono signal, the difference is HUGE.

Do exactly what I said you PITA moron.

If the click seems to comes from right inside your head - game over.

If you need more explanation - you do not deserve it.



..... Phil






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Old May 14th 11, 12:55 PM posted to sci.electronics.repair,sci.electronics.design,uk.rec.audio
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On 13:07 14 May 2011, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Patrick wrote:
I have some vinatge headphones (Sennheiser HD424) and want to attach
a new plug.


Which color wires are the positive ones?


The colors in one of the leads are red & blue and in the other lead
black & yellow. (No wire is used as screening - there's just two
wires in each lead.)


Black and blue are the commons. Not that it would make any difference
if you commoned red and yellow.

You can check for sure by unplugging the leads from each actual
earpiece (red and blue plugs), but be careful to pull on the actual
plug only. The pins are of slightly different sizes.

Hope you have a source of the muffs for these - they crumble to dust
quite quickly.


You must know the headphones well because I had long forgotten the leads
plugged into the earpieces. I didn't realize the mini plugs were keyed to
go in only one way around. With that info I could have continuity tested
the colored leads to each of the larger pins on the plugs but you saved me
doing that becauase you have given me the color coding too. Thank you.

You're right about the muffs crumbling. I threw them out. First I'll see
what the cans sound like now and then decide if it's worth getting new
muffs.

It's been instructive to see how many people misunderstood what the
original question was trying to solve and they gave obviously useless, if
not misleading, advice. It's never been the same since Eternal September.
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Old May 14th 11, 01:00 PM posted to sci.electronics.repair,sci.electronics.design,uk.rec.audio
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On 13:49 14 May 2011, Phil Allison wrote:


"Patrick = another PITA Jerk

Out of phase headphone transducers create a far more subtle adverse
effect than that noticed in loudspeakers, so it is not something
immediately evident by A-B testing.



** That is 100% ****ing BULL**** !!!!!!!!!

With any mono signal, the difference is HUGE.


There is no phase cancellation like there is for speaker sounds because the
sound from each headphone transducer is interfereing with the other.

Your lack of knowledge is made all the more lamentable by the unwarranted
self-assurance with which you conduct yourself.

Do exactly what I said you PITA moron.

If the click seems to comes from right inside your head - game over.

If you need more explanation - you do not deserve it.

.... Phil


Your poor knowledge is a liability to this group because your can't
recognize your inadequate understanding even after it has been politely
explained to you.

I hope you don't mind but you are now in my plonk file to spare me reading
your further pitiful lamentations.
 



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