In message , J G Miller
writes
On Saturday, February 11th, 2012, at 08:57:40h +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:

I'm sure that, even during the war, British morals remained impeccable!

Actually, and not surprisingly, you will find that morals in the
UKofGB&NI deteroriated badly during the war.

In Ipswich in 1943, an increasing number of complaints were received
about air raid shelters being used for “immoral purposes".

And, where still accessible, they probably also continued to be used for
immoral purposes for a long time after the war. And pillboxes.
--
Ian

In message , "J. P. Gilliver
(John)" writes
In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes:
In article ,
Ian Jackson wrote:
If it could be used on a variety of voltages (120V, 200V - in Hong Kong,
220) and 230/240V), that meter could be extremely useful.

Interesting point. As someone else has said, the accuracy was probably
abysmal, but should have been adequate to tell between 1xx and 2xx
volts.

Quite. it serves no purpose in the UK since it couldn't resolve any
likely voltage variations - even for those so anal they wanted to know.

(Why do [some] people insist on using that term - anal - for other
people who want to know something they don't, or similar? I find it
unpleasant. And no, I'm not one of those referred to in this case.)
--
*Why do we say something is out of whack? What is a whack?
[]
What equipment that's out of it hasn't had enough of? (Perhaps an
English version of a kilter?)

Anything "out of whack" needs a top-up whack in order to fine-tune it
back into spec. All good engineers know that.
--
Ian

In article , says...

On Saturday, February 11th, 2012, at 08:57:40h +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:

I'm sure that, even during the war, British morals remained impeccable!

Actually, and not surprisingly, you will find that morals in the
UKofGB&NI deteroriated badly during the war.

In Ipswich in 1943, an increasing number of complaints were received
about air raid shelters being used for ?immoral purposes".

Perhaps Ian forgot the smiley when he wrote that? ;-)

--

Terry

In message , Zero Tolerance
writes:
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:17:34 +0000 (GMT), charles
wrote:

Since AP was the home of BBC News, why should this have happened. Much
more likely is that someone made "an Entertainment Tape" as a "spoof".

You can see it for yourself here. If it's a spoof then the BBC has
presented it in a rather misleading manner.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/3585041.stm

(The video - in nasty "RealVideo" format - purports to be a recording
exactly as broadcast, although I don't think they had work experience
juniors blindly cropping things to 14:9 back in 1964 so that
particular aspect of the presentation must be discounted.)

There still seem to be gremlins! I've tried to watch it twice: OK, I
expected silence for the first two and a half minutes, but (using VLC),
at about 2'30" I get garbled sound, followed by a freeze-up at about
2'37" (about half way through, judging from the slider).

I thought they'd stopped using RealVideo (in favour of Flash, which has
its own problems). Though I now see the above page is dated 2004-4-20,
so probably has a link to an old-format clip. I'm assuming it's the
"WATCH AND LISTEN" link near top right, that links to
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/video/40...19_bbc2_vi.ram that
links to rtsp something; the "Lights Out" link below it to
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...io/3585041.stm
doesn't seem to work for me either (no error message, just nothing
happens).
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

If it's pretentious, then at least it's not the sort that wears a horned helmet
and shrieks about trolls. - Stuart Maconie in Radio Times, 14-20 November 2009.

In article ,
says...

In message , "J. P. Gilliver
(John)" writes

*Why do we say something is out of whack? What is a whack?
[]
What equipment that's out of it hasn't had enough of? (Perhaps an
English version of a kilter?)

Anything "out of whack" needs a top-up whack in order to fine-tune it
back into spec. All good engineers know that.


Reminds me of a cartoon from a trade mag - "Radio Retailer" IIRC - in
the 60s.

No caption. Man with smile leaving room with case labelled "TV Repairs".
Woman with bemused expression and TV with an X marked on the top of the
cabinet ...

--

Terry

In message , Ian Jackson
writes:
In message , "J. P. Gilliver
(John)" writes
In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes:
[]
*Why do we say something is out of whack? What is a whack?
[]
What equipment that's out of it hasn't had enough of? (Perhaps an
English version of a kilter?)

Anything "out of whack" needs a top-up whack in order to fine-tune it
back into spec. All good engineers know that.

That's what I said ["hasn't had enough of"] (-:. What we used to call
percussive maintenance. Actually worked quite well in the days of things
with valveholders, or which otherwise experienced thermal cycling that
exposed any loose connection. (And still does, sometimes - it's
certainly tempting!)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

If it's pretentious, then at least it's not the sort that wears a horned helmet
and shrieks about trolls. - Stuart Maconie in Radio Times, 14-20 November 2009.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
Seems you often do just that. Too many 'Mail' generalizations.

I'm going to have to have a look at this 'Mail'. Is it really so bad as
everyone makes out?

It wouldn't be to you. You'd find yourself agreeing with every word.

Well I doubt that. But if I did what would be the point of reading it?
Isn't the purpose of reading a newspaper to have your ideas challenged,
and to learn of new things? It would be very boring to read a newspaper
you'd written yourself wouldn't it? So predictable.

Bill

Terry Casey wrote:
In article , says...
Terry Casey wrote:
Obviously you will add noise to the amplified source but not to the rest
of the system.
Well yes, but better to add a little noise there than let the channel go
through the system 10dB down.


I wasn't disagreeing with you Bill!

Merely saying that noise introduced here wouldn't affect the overall
system SNR - whereas, if it was not filtered, it would ...

I know you weren't disagreeing with me. I was merely appending to your
comment!

Bill

On 11/02/2012 14:53, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , J G Miller
writes
On Saturday, February 11th, 2012, at 08:57:40h +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:

I'm sure that, even during the war, British morals remained impeccable!

Actually, and not surprisingly, you will find that morals in the
UKofGB&NI deteroriated badly during the war.

In Ipswich in 1943, an increasing number of complaints were received
about air raid shelters being used for “immoral purposes".

And, where still accessible, they probably also continued to be used for
immoral purposes for a long time after the war. And pillboxes.

Certainly into the 60's erm... oops!

Ron

J G Miller wrote:

In Ipswich in 1943, an increasing number of complaints were received
about air raid shelters being used for “immoral purposes".

Presumably by those who didn't get an invite.

Bill