On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 09:48:15 +0000, RJH wrote:

On 21/01/2016 22:03, Johnny B Good wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 06:17:48 +0000, Bob Latham wrote:

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Johnny B Good wrote:

Ouch! or Yikes! How often do you upgrade or swap out failing disk
drives, I wonder?

I have 3 NAS boxes, one of them off site. The oldest is from 2010 and
none of them has ever given any indication of a problem with their hard
drive. Rightly or wrongly I use Western Digital REDS.

As long as you steer clear of the Seagate rubbish, you shouldn't suffer
too many problems especially if you check the SMART stats every other
week or so and don't *just* rely on smartmonctrl sending you an email
about imminent failure. :-)

Yes, Seagate has had a terrible reputation in the last few years, due,
they claim, to a bad batch each of two particular models. Certainly,
I can confirm that I've had three 3TB Seagates go down in my NASs in
each of the last three years, and another replacement for the first of
these that was DOA.

By contrast, most other brands of HD seem to keep marching on.
Recently, I've had a WD HD in a PC go down, but it was 12 years old
and had been swapped between PCs often, and it died the last time it
was swapped, so, though obviously a nuisance, I deemed that an
entirely acceptable failure, even though I have another WD drive that
was purchased at the same time and with much the same history that,
touch wood, is still going.

My last purchase was a 3TB Toshiba, to replace the last Seagate that
died. Too early to speculate on its longevity or lack of it.

I'm afraid I simply don't follow a lot of what you say, and have relied
on buying what seem to be be decent brands - WD Reds for my last upgrade
a couple of years' back. I let the system sleep - basically because it's
not that accessible (in a cellar), is not used anything like 24/7 -
maybe 4 hours/day on average, and the electricity savings seem worthwhile.

Perfectly acceptable IMHO.

I use the old disks (2TB WD-somethings I think, in the old NAS box) for
backup. I've not had a single failure - but then maybe I've been lucky.

Yes, I've cleaned up the bad sectors on the last Seagate that just
died and am using it for offline backup of the online backup!
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Java Jive wrote:
As long as you steer clear of the Seagate rubbish, you shouldn't suffer
too many problems especially if you check the SMART stats every other
week or so and don't *just* rely on smartmonctrl sending you an email
about imminent failure. :-)

Yes, Seagate has had a terrible reputation in the last few years, due,
they claim, to a bad batch each of two particular models. Certainly,
I can confirm that I've had three 3TB Seagates go down in my NASs in
each of the last three years, and another replacement for the first of
these that was DOA.

By contrast, most other brands of HD seem to keep marching on.
Recently, I've had a WD HD in a PC go down, but it was 12 years old
and had been swapped between PCs often, and it died the last time it
was swapped, so, though obviously a nuisance, I deemed that an
entirely acceptable failure, even though I have another WD drive that
was purchased at the same time and with much the same history that,
touch wood, is still going.

Most recent failure I've had was an Hitachi DeskStar. Used in the old
Acorn, so doesn't get the same thrashing as a PC. It's off at a specialist
to be recovered - fingers crossed. The other smaller HD in the Acorn is
over 20 years old which is why I'd got a bit lax with backups. But I've
learned an expensive lesson now. ;-)

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