Just been listening to the Brahms German Requiem live from the Chapel
of King's College Cambridge.

I have to say that I am not a particular lover of Brahms and even less
of his Requiem, but having been a resident of Cambridge years ago and
been to many concerts and choral evensongs in that Chapel I have to
say the sound was stunning - so real and clear, you could almost have
been there.

Ah well, just 18 more days to go so must make the most of it.



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I don't quite get the point of this, as if you really believe the stuff on
the site, it seems totally pointless if they have no plans to actually use
it long term for anything.
Brian

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Just been listening to the Brahms German Requiem live from the Chapel of
King's College Cambridge.

I have to say that I am not a particular lover of Brahms and even less of
his Requiem, but having been a resident of Cambridge years ago and been to
many concerts and choral evensongs in that Chapel I have to say the sound
was stunning - so real and clear, you could almost have been there.

Ah well, just 18 more days to go so must make the most of it.



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Top posted for Brian's sake.

AIUI The point is to see if they can stream it reliably, assess any
increase in server load, etc, a changeover would require, *and* get
positive feedback that people *want* it. They could then use the feedback
to argue that it justifies a likely increase in copyright permissions
payments, etc.

Not yet sure, but I've had the impression that they are also experimenting
with the details of how the stream is being served. e.g. I got some types
of error (from ffmpeg) on the 10th that haven't recurred more recently. But
as yet that may be luck!

Up to people who want it to now react by saying they do via the relevant
feedback routes. I'll certainly write about it for HFN. But, alas, that
won't appear for 3+ months.

Jim


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I don't quite get the point of this, as if you really believe the stuff
on the site, it seems totally pointless if they have no plans to
actually use it long term for anything. Brian

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Hmm, to me though as I said before, it really needs to be used on the more
mainstream channels and for that to be worth it, the BBC needs to up their
game engineering wise to at least as good as it was in the late 70s and
early 80s, not the leave a limiter in charge and go down the pub system they
to use these days.
Brian

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Top posted for Brian's sake.

AIUI The point is to see if they can stream it reliably, assess any
increase in server load, etc, a changeover would require, *and* get
positive feedback that people *want* it. They could then use the feedback
to argue that it justifies a likely increase in copyright permissions
payments, etc.

Not yet sure, but I've had the impression that they are also experimenting
with the details of how the stream is being served. e.g. I got some types
of error (from ffmpeg) on the 10th that haven't recurred more recently.
But
as yet that may be luck!

Up to people who want it to now react by saying they do via the relevant
feedback routes. I'll certainly write about it for HFN. But, alas, that
won't appear for 3+ months.

Jim


In article , Brian Gaff
wrote:
I don't quite get the point of this, as if you really believe the stuff
on the site, it seems totally pointless if they have no plans to
actually use it long term for anything. Brian

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BBC Engineering? No such thing any more, it's all done by jounalists (sic).

Wot, me bitter?

On 16/04/2017 09:33, Brian Gaff wrote:
Hmm, to me though as I said before, it really needs to be used on the more
mainstream channels and for that to be worth it, the BBC needs to up their
game engineering wise to at least as good as it was in the late 70s and
early 80s, not the leave a limiter in charge and go down the pub system they
to use these days.
Brian



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BBC Engineering? No such thing any more, it's all done by
jounalists (sic).




Actually much of it is done (or was done) by Siemens.




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If you listened to the R3 flac stream you'd realise how daftly
inappropriate your comments are below.

And its a *test*.

Jim

In article , Brian Gaff
wrote:
Hmm, to me though as I said before, it really needs to be used on the
more mainstream channels and for that to be worth it, the BBC needs to
up their game engineering wise to at least as good as it was in the late
70s and early 80s, not the leave a limiter in charge and go down the pub
system they to use these days. Brian

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Top posted for Brians sake

I have just tried it, and to my untrained ear it sounds brilliant.
R3 FM where I live is a bit hissy at the moment, which usually means
a trip round the house cleaning all the fm connections, notably to
my home-made dipole in the loft (pointing to Rowbridge).

Via my computer, all this hiss has gone and without any of the
awful dab bubbling mud.

WIN 7 Pro 32 bit. Firefox 52.0.2,Gigabyte GA-880GM-UDH2 Mboard with
onboard sound connected using a 2-metre slim coax with a 3.5 plug
each end into AUX2 on my Onkyo CR515 MiniHifi and the Onkyo speakers.

No buffering or dropouts, and now that the helpful Paddy on the
BT community forums has sorted out my broadband I seem to be getting
a decent download (see below) but one fly in the ointment is I need to
turn up the volume on my Onkyo to hear it. If I switch back to FM
the existing FM channels are way too loud.

The speakers are set to 100% on the Realtek Audio mixer. Is there
some way of arranging for R3 FM and R3 Flac to have the same
volume ?.

Also, since my (desktop) computer is upstairs, and the main TV etc
together with my Home Hub 3 downstairs, how could I get the output
from my soundcard connected to a hifi system downstairs ?. There is
CAT5e cable connecting HH3a to my PC and I have a Netgear GS105
sitting boxed, waiting for an application.

The weak-link at the moment seems to be the need for firefox 51+
on a desktop so any solution using a tablet seems to be out of the
question (for now).

Andrew

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2. Serial number: +nnnnnnnnnnn
3. Firmware version: Software version 4.7.5.1.83.8.94.1.52 (Type A) Last
updated 30/09/16
4. Board version: BT Home Hub 3.0A
5. ADSL uptime: 1 days, 18:57:59
6. Bandwidth: 1239 / 17143
7. Data sent/received: 0.0 / 0.1
8. Broadband username:
9. BT FON: No
10. Wireless network/SSID: BTHub3-xxxx
11. Wireless connections: Enabled, (802.11 b/g/n (Recommended)) 20 MHz,
WPS enabled
12. Wireless security: WPA and WPA2
13. Wireless channel: Automatic / 1
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16. VPI/VCI: 0 / 38
17. Line profile: Fast
18. Software variant: -
19. Boot loader: -

On 15/04/2017 10:23, Jim Lesurf wrote:
Top posted for Brian's sake.

AIUI The point is to see if they can stream it reliably, assess any
increase in server load, etc, a changeover would require, *and* get
positive feedback that people *want* it. They could then use the feedback
to argue that it justifies a likely increase in copyright permissions
payments, etc.

Not yet sure, but I've had the impression that they are also experimenting
with the details of how the stream is being served. e.g. I got some types
of error (from ffmpeg) on the 10th that haven't recurred more recently. But
as yet that may be luck!

Up to people who want it to now react by saying they do via the relevant
feedback routes. I'll certainly write about it for HFN. But, alas, that
won't appear for 3+ months.

Jim


In article , Brian Gaff
wrote:
I don't quite get the point of this, as if you really believe the stuff
on the site, it seems totally pointless if they have no plans to
actually use it long term for anything. Brian

In article , Andrew
wrote:


The speakers are set to 100% on the Realtek Audio mixer. Is there some
way of arranging for R3 FM and R3 Flac to have the same volume ?.

Afraid not. The R3 iplayer streams and the test flac stream have no
automated level-compression applied. But R3 FM does. So in general, they
will differ. All you can do is tweak levels to get what seems like a
comfortable level for each. It may change with the programme material.


The weak-link at the moment seems to be the need for firefox 51+ on a
desktop so any solution using a tablet seems to be out of the question
(for now).

I'm using a version of ffmpeg to capture the steams as files. However
setting this up is a real PITA unless you are computer geek. I have been
told that Chrome works. But I have no idea about that or what other
browsers, etc, might for the flac test. Sadly we now only have a couple of
weeks before the flac test will end. :-/

Use the BBC feedback pages to let them know you think the flac stream is
excellent and "ask for more"! :-)

Jim

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I've had confirmation from people I know at the BBC that they *will* be
streaming this year's proms as flac. :-) I asked about this and got the
reply below

Yes, it is correct. There is a longer statement from Alan Davey he
https://radiotoday.co.uk/2017/04/bbc...aming-quality/

Jim

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