Why Bose?
 

Dave Plowman (Nutcase Moron) wrote:




Yes. I remember hearing a Bose setup in a medium sized nightclub in
Chelsea. Early '70s.



** In the early 70s, the only PA product Bose sold was the model 800 speaker.

Virtually the same as the concurrent 901 home speaker, with one driver removed. Wooden box, 8 x 4 inch cheap woofers plus external equaliser.

Possibly a Crown 300A or Phase Linear 400/700 amp was being used too.

Near identical to what many Bose 901 owners had at home, if they turned the boxes around to face them.

Bose leading the PA system world ????????

You story is, as expected, a total crock of ****.

Like you.


..... Phil

Why Bose?
 

keskiviikko 19. heinäkuuta 2017 3.13.11 UTC+3 ~misfit~ kirjoitti:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:


Don't kid yourself:-)

If you had gone to the back of the stage you would probably have
found small Soundcraft mixer, fader positions marked with sticky tape
and red marker pen, set up by whoever installed the system. At the
sound check of such gigs, it is usually the bouncer or the barman who
stands in front of the stage for 30 seconds and says, "Yes. I can
hear everyone"

... which is why I was hired by a band back in the late 70s / early 80s to
initially set up the mixer (and tweak as the room filled or otherwise)
before / during operating what started as rudimentary stage lighting
(progressing on to a full off-stage mix a few months later and more lights
every so often).

I spent three years working with that band, living in hotels and 'band
accomodation' eight nights out of ten and touring the country, most often
driving the bands bus between towns on Sun/Mon or Tuesday. I have many many
fond memories of that time (and more than a few gaps...). ;)
--

Halcyon days!

Working at a recording studio, I didn't have much spare time,afer work, overtime and study. But when I did, I played vibraphone in a MJQ-style band called "Sophisticated Jazz" at hotel and night club gig, whenever time permitted. I was a huge John Lewis/Milt Jackson fan at the time.

Most places where we played had a handful of Reslo mics, and a small mixer on which the levels and fixed-band EQs had been set up when the system was initially installed. On the top of the mixer was usually a paper "Don't touch!" Our guitarist and bass player both had small combo amps, and so an an acoustic band we controlled our own internal balance and were not dependent on PA.



Iain

Why Bose?
 

In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
Dave Plowman (Nutcase Moron) wrote:




Yes. I remember hearing a Bose setup in a medium sized nightclub in
Chelsea. Early '70s.



** In the early 70s, the only PA product Bose sold was the model 800
speaker.

Virtually the same as the concurrent 901 home speaker, with one driver
removed. Wooden box, 8 x 4 inch cheap woofers plus external equaliser.

Woofers only? Be a very odd sounding speaker if that's all it had.
Explains a lot.

Possibly a Crown 300A or Phase Linear 400/700 amp was being used too.

The amps were badged Bose. One per two speakers. With equaliser.

Near identical to what many Bose 901 owners had at home, if they turned
the boxes around to face them.

Bose leading the PA system world ????????

At that point in time, unusually good for a PA system. And likely a
million times better than anything you ever heard then. As most were
pretty poor then.

You story is, as expected, a total crock of ****.

Like you.

Seems I'm not the only one who heard them and was impressed. So it's very
likely you never did in as an installation. But then I'd be surprised if
you ever left your workshop given your mental problems.

--
*Tell me to 'stuff it' - I'm a taxidermist.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Why Bose?
 

keskiviikko 19. heinäkuuta 2017 13.01.30 UTC+3 Dave Plowman (News) kirjoitti:


(Dave enthuses about Bose)

At that point in time, unusually good for a PA system. And likely a
million times better than anything you ever heard then. As most were
pretty poor then.

Sorry Dave, but that simply is not true! The best places in the 70's, Marquee, 100 Club, Mandrake, Raffles, Ronnie Scott's (the old address) all had Crown driving JBL. A vastly superior combination, and still the choice of many venues and concerts today.

Iain

Iain

Why Bose?
 

Dave Plowman is a ****ing IDIOT


---------------------------------


Yes. I remember hearing a Bose setup in a medium sized nightclub in
Chelsea. Early '70s.



** In the early 70s, the only PA product Bose sold was the model 800
speaker.

Virtually the same as the concurrent 901 home speaker, with one driver
removed. Wooden box, 8 x 4 inch cheap woofers plus external equaliser.

Woofers only? Be a very odd sounding speaker if that's all it had.
Explains a lot.


* *FFS you *ca*n look it up - you wanking moron .



Possibly a Crown 300A or Phase Linear 400/700 amp was being used too.

The amps were badged Bose.


** Bose did not sell an PA amplifier in the early 70s.

The first was the Bose 1800 in the very late 70s.


Near identical to what many Bose 901 owners had at home, if they turned
the boxes around to face them.

Bose leading the PA system world ????????

At that point in time, unusually good for a PA system.


** No it was ****ing not.

I just proved it.


You story is, as expected, a total CROCK of ****.

Like you.

FOAD of cancer - you vile pommy scumbag.




...... Phil

Why Bose?
 

In article , Iain
Churches wrote:

Halcyon days!

Working at a recording studio, I didn't have much spare time,afer work,
overtime and study. But when I did, I played vibraphone in a MJQ-style
band called "Sophisticated Jazz" at hotel and night club gig, whenever
time permitted. I was a huge John Lewis/Milt Jackson fan at the time.


Alas my performing experiences weren't quite in that class..

http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history...PantoPlus.html :-)

I recommend that those of a nervous disposition should avoid looking at
some of the images on the above page. 8-]

There are other pages in the collection, but fear not, their photos are
less alarming. I've not got to Hawai'i and grass skirts as yet!

Jim

--
Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me.
Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

Why Bose?
 

In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
** Bose did not sell an PA amplifier in the early 70s.

The first was the Bose 1800 in the very late 70s.

You are talking pure ******** again. I know what I saw. Of course things
take a long time to reach OZ. Mainly your medication, it seems.

--
*Could it be that "I do " is the longest sentence? *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Why Bose?
 

On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 11:49:37 +0100, Iain Churches wrote:

keskiviikko 19. heinäkuuta 2017 13.01.30 UTC+3 Dave Plowman (News)
kirjoitti:


(Dave enthuses about Bose)

At that point in time, unusually good for a PA system. And likely a
million times better than anything you ever heard then. As most were
pretty poor then.

Sorry Dave, but that simply is not true! The best places in the 70's,
Marquee, 100 Club, Mandrake, Raffles, Ronnie Scott's (the old address)
all had Crown driving JBL. A vastly superior combination, and still the
choice of many venues and concerts today.


While there may have been expensive JBL systems that sounded better than
Bose, the average JBL system that I heard was pretty disappointing.
However, I remember they had a booth at one of the hifi shows where they
demoed some of their PA gear at high volume which sounded impressive - too
bad none of their customers seemed to be able to make them sound that good.

I would have to add that, of the venues you mention, I've only ever been
to the 100 Club and I don't remember being particularly impressed with the
sound (although I don't remember it being bad either).


--
JRP Music - http://www.jrpmusic.co.uk

Why Bose?
 

In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
** Bose did not sell an PA amplifier in the early 70s.

I've no idea of the number, but I can describe it.

In a vinyl covered case (similar to a guitar amp, etc). Rack width, and
with the equaliser mounted in the box too. About 4U high and roughly
square. Pretty heavy so likely had a decent size transformer. Cooling fan.
Odd thing was the speaker output connectors were 1/4" jacks - same as the
speakers. Whole lot clearly labelled Bose. Of course it could have been
something cobbled together by the UK importer.

Not the sort of thing you'd do for a domestic amp. Designed for being
moved around - it even had a lid and carrying handles.

--
*Don't worry about avoiding temptation. As you grow older, it will avoid you.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Why Bose?
 

In article ,
James Perrett wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 11:49:37 +0100, Iain Churches wrote:

keskiviikko 19. heinäkuuta 2017 13.01.30 UTC+3 Dave Plowman (News)
kirjoitti:


(Dave enthuses about Bose)

At that point in time, unusually good for a PA system. And likely a
million times better than anything you ever heard then. As most were
pretty poor then.

Sorry Dave, but that simply is not true! The best places in the 70's,
Marquee, 100 Club, Mandrake, Raffles, Ronnie Scott's (the old
address) all had Crown driving JBL. A vastly superior combination,
and still the choice of many venues and concerts today.


While there may have been expensive JBL systems that sounded better than
Bose, the average JBL system that I heard was pretty disappointing.

Most PA systems are pretty disappointing. Especially 50 years ago. And JBL
were far more about level than quality.

However, I remember they had a booth at one of the hifi shows where they
demoed some of their PA gear at high volume which sounded impressive -
too bad none of their customers seemed to be able to make them sound
that good.

Yes - careful setting up makes a world of difference.


I would have to add that, of the venues you mention, I've only ever been
to the 100 Club and I don't remember being particularly impressed with
the sound (although I don't remember it being bad either).


-- JRP Music - http://www.jrpmusic.co.uk

--
*If vegetable oil comes from vegetables, where does baby oil come from? *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.