On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 05:59:37 -0700, Iain wrote:

sunnuntai 22. lokakuuta 2017 12.35.51 UTC+3 Dave Plowman (News)
kirjoitti:


You could hear similar on a decent high end domestic R to R like a
Revox,
by switching between input and off tape output.

Don't compare a Revox with a professionally set-up studio recorder,
Studer A80 or Ampex A440 with Dolby SR.

The Revox is not even in the same league.

And, not even in the same league as an Akai GX630DB or a GX747. :-)

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In article ,
Johnny B Good wrote:
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 05:59:37 -0700, Iain wrote:

sunnuntai 22. lokakuuta 2017 12.35.51 UTC+3 Dave Plowman (News)
kirjoitti:


You could hear similar on a decent high end domestic R to R like a
Revox,
by switching between input and off tape output.

Don't compare a Revox with a professionally set-up studio recorder,
Studer A80 or Ampex A440 with Dolby SR.

The Revox is not even in the same league.

And, not even in the same league as an Akai GX630DB or a GX747. :-)

Pro recorders are optimised for the higher speeds - usually 15 ips. But
most will also do 7 1/2. Not at all surprising to find a decent domestic
machine that will beat the pro one at 7 1/2.

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keskiviikko 25. lokakuuta 2017 1.51.47 UTC+3 Dave Plowman (News) kirjoitti:


Pro recorders are optimised for the higher speeds - usually 15 ips. But
most will also do 7 1/2. Not at all surprising to find a decent domestic
machine that will beat the pro one at 7 1/2.

Indeed. The tape speeds for professional machines are 38cm/s (15 ips) and 76 cm/s (30 ips) Some machines have 7.5 ips which is useful for making listening copies for artists. Not much else.

Iain

tiistai 24. lokakuuta 2017 22.58.08 UTC+3 Johnny B Good kirjoitti:
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 05:59:37 -0700, Iain wrote:

sunnuntai 22. lokakuuta 2017 12.35.51 UTC+3 Dave Plowman (News)
kirjoitti:


You could hear similar on a decent high end domestic R to R like a
Revox,
by switching between input and off tape output.

Don't compare a Revox with a professionally set-up studio recorder,
Studer A80 or Ampex A440 with Dolby SR.

The Revox is not even in the same league.

And, not even in the same league as an Akai GX630DB or a GX747. :-)

:-))

Some years ago, I used to mix musicals for a semi-pro theatre group. They had two Revox machines. As the performance was non-stop, we had the idea to start the second machine just a few minutes before the tape on the first machine ran out, and splice between them :-) I could even detect edits in made in the ambience, and inaudible splices in the music were all but impossible.

I explained the problems I was having to the theatre technician. He stayed late after the rehearsal to clean and demag the heads, and set both machines up with an SAT. After the second performance, the situation had not improved.

The next day I took two Studer B62s with me, and used them for the rest of the week, editing between them without the slightest problem.

Iain

On 11/10/17 11:49, Woody wrote:
"Adrian Caspersz" wrote in message

Currently I'm shopping for a new cart for a Rega P3-24, the stock
harsh sibilant bassless Rega Bias 2 cart I want to get shot of.

The prices of all the half decent ones have recently accelerated
into the hundreds with the exception of the £30 AT95e which I may
end up with.


The AT95e has been around for years and years and is well tried and
tested, like the one what I have got.

Also consider looking at Ortofon who are very much still around and
make a good product.

Bit the bullet yesterday and installed a new Rega Elys 2 cart. Even yet
though not fully run in, it's got a lot better channel separation,
presence of the vocalist, punching bass, very low surface noise and good
percussion. The last I'm expecting to improve.

Everything that the Rega Bias 2 was not.

Actually, that's a bit of a relief - because adding other carts means
having to raise the height of the arm with a VTA spacer, and raise the
plastic cover to avoid the counter weight. Or change the counter weight.
The cost of mods ...

Hapilly, I'm now currently running through and enjoying my vinyl
collection. Back then, with limited funds, I took more care selecting
the best of the rest - and audio memory things come flooding back, that
a Pioneer PL-12D made great replay back then in the early 80s.

For kicks I've recently picked up a secondhand PL-12D / M75ED
combination. The deck needs a bit of work (motor hum through the
suspension & spindle), and further away from fidelity than the Rega -
But I'm still keen to make it do something.

I've just been on a food shopping trip to Morrisons. Just on the way
out, past the newspaper and birthday card displays, they have stuck up a
tall display of classic rock albums - most on heavy vinyl and an
impressive sticker price. They will be discounted after Christmas...

A year ago I was in a branch of Fry's Electronics in the US, marvelling
at a similar display of LPs at similar crazy prices.

This didn't happen last time they announced a vinyl revival.

But, I'm a bit more 'charity shop' in my sources ...

:-)


Now if you can tell me where I can get a stylus for my AT30 moving
coil cartridge........


OOI tried looking. Hens teeth might perhaps be more of a proposition, if
they fit the cart ...

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Adrian C

Jim Lesurf wrote:

Iain wrote:

Much of what we call popular music has little to do with
faithfulness to the sound hitting the mics.

That's what I've thought. :-)
It also throws a stark light on some of the dafter claims made by the
proponents of MQA.

Recent CCC talk on MQA

https://media.ccc.de/v/34c3-9113-mqa_-_a_clever_stealth_drm-trojan

In article , Andy Burns
wrote:
Jim Lesurf wrote:

Iain wrote:

Much of what we call popular music has little to do with faithfulness
to the sound hitting the mics.

That's what I've thought. :-) It also throws a stark light on some of
the dafter claims made by the proponents of MQA.

Recent CCC talk on MQA

https://media.ccc.de/v/34c3-9113-mqa_-_a_clever_stealth_drm-trojan


Interesting. Not tried the video yet as it would be a 300MB download. But
the blurb seems fair enough as a summary.

Jim

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Jim Lesurf wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

https://media.ccc.de/v/34c3-9113-mqa_-_a_clever_stealth_drm-trojan

Interesting. Not tried the video yet as it would be a 300MB download. But
the blurb seems fair enough as a summary.

Not quite as interesting as I had hoped, one of the presenters doesn't
have "the knack"

On 08/01/2018 10:15, Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Andy Burns
wrote:
Jim Lesurf wrote:

Iain wrote:

Much of what we call popular music has little to do with faithfulness
to the sound hitting the mics.

That's what I've thought. :-) It also throws a stark light on some of
the dafter claims made by the proponents of MQA.

Recent CCC talk on MQA

https://media.ccc.de/v/34c3-9113-mqa_-_a_clever_stealth_drm-trojan


Interesting. Not tried the video yet as it would be a 300MB download. But
the blurb seems fair enough as a summary.


Can't comment on the interesting (!) but 300MB for a 1 hour video seems,
to me, trivial - just a few 10s of seconds here.

I've noticed this with a few on this NG over the past 10 years or so
when we used to post audio files - are many of you still on a metered or
dial up internet still? Or 1TB storage? Or something?


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