Just spotted some rebranding going on, they know their limitations...

https://thevinylfactory.com/features...sley-c10-c100/

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I was always amazed how well the old el cheapo Garrard SP25 was, considering
the main bearing seemed to involve a felt washer and the pick up some rough
old knife bearings.
Brian

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Just spotted some rebranding going on, they know their limitations...

https://thevinylfactory.com/features...sley-c10-c100/

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On 11/10/17 10:12, Brian Gaff wrote:
I was always amazed how well the old el cheapo Garrard SP25 was, considering
the main bearing seemed to involve a felt washer and the pick up some rough
old knife bearings.

I foolishly gave someone my old Shure M75ED cart which he stuck on one
of those decks, then visited me with a big grin at my mistake.

Currently I'm shopping for a new cart for a Rega P3-24, the stock harsh
sibilant bassless Rega Bias 2 cart I want to get shot of.

The prices of all the half decent ones have recently accelerated into
the hundreds with the exception of the £30 AT95e which I may end up with.

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On 11/10/17 10:12, Brian Gaff wrote:
I was always amazed how well the old el cheapo Garrard SP25 was,
considering
the main bearing seemed to involve a felt washer and the pick up
some rough
old knife bearings.

I foolishly gave someone my old Shure M75ED cart which he stuck on
one of those decks, then visited me with a big grin at my mistake.

Currently I'm shopping for a new cart for a Rega P3-24, the stock
harsh sibilant bassless Rega Bias 2 cart I want to get shot of.

The prices of all the half decent ones have recently accelerated
into the hundreds with the exception of the £30 AT95e which I may
end up with.


The AT95e has been around for years and years and is well tried and
tested, like the one what I have got.

Also consider looking at Ortofon who are very much still around and
make a good product.

Now if you can tell me where I can get a stylus for my AT30 moving
coil cartridge........


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On 11/10/17 11:49, Woody wrote:
"Adrian Caspersz" wrote in message

Currently I'm shopping for a new cart for a Rega P3-24, the stock
harsh sibilant bassless Rega Bias 2 cart I want to get shot of.

The prices of all the half decent ones have recently accelerated
into the hundreds with the exception of the £30 AT95e which I may
end up with.


The AT95e has been around for years and years and is well tried and
tested, like the one what I have got.

Also consider looking at Ortofon who are very much still around and
make a good product.

Bit the bullet yesterday and installed a new Rega Elys 2 cart. Even yet
though not fully run in, it's got a lot better channel separation,
presence of the vocalist, punching bass, very low surface noise and good
percussion. The last I'm expecting to improve.

Everything that the Rega Bias 2 was not.

Actually, that's a bit of a relief - because adding other carts means
having to raise the height of the arm with a VTA spacer, and raise the
plastic cover to avoid the counter weight. Or change the counter weight.
The cost of mods ...

Hapilly, I'm now currently running through and enjoying my vinyl
collection. Back then, with limited funds, I took more care selecting
the best of the rest - and audio memory things come flooding back, that
a Pioneer PL-12D made great replay back then in the early 80s.

For kicks I've recently picked up a secondhand PL-12D / M75ED
combination. The deck needs a bit of work (motor hum through the
suspension & spindle), and further away from fidelity than the Rega -
But I'm still keen to make it do something.

I've just been on a food shopping trip to Morrisons. Just on the way
out, past the newspaper and birthday card displays, they have stuck up a
tall display of classic rock albums - most on heavy vinyl and an
impressive sticker price. They will be discounted after Christmas...

A year ago I was in a branch of Fry's Electronics in the US, marvelling
at a similar display of LPs at similar crazy prices.

This didn't happen last time they announced a vinyl revival.

But, I'm a bit more 'charity shop' in my sources ...

:-)


Now if you can tell me where I can get a stylus for my AT30 moving
coil cartridge........


OOI tried looking. Hens teeth might perhaps be more of a proposition, if
they fit the cart ...

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Yes don't get this. I had a Shure and it was fine, I now have to use a
completely automatic deck due to my eyes. I have a used Technics SL 5 fitted
with the old Ortofon Concorde, and it sounds pretty good, but there are
signs of problems as the arm motor sometimes keeps running and the grease on
the mechanism is all rather hard now. done very very well, but I'm loathe to
try to get it fixed as I see no real contenders for anything as good and
new either.
Brian

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On 11/10/17 10:12, Brian Gaff wrote:
I was always amazed how well the old el cheapo Garrard SP25 was,
considering
the main bearing seemed to involve a felt washer and the pick up some
rough
old knife bearings.

I foolishly gave someone my old Shure M75ED cart which he stuck on one of
those decks, then visited me with a big grin at my mistake.

Currently I'm shopping for a new cart for a Rega P3-24, the stock harsh
sibilant bassless Rega Bias 2 cart I want to get shot of.

The prices of all the half decent ones have recently accelerated into the
hundreds with the exception of the £30 AT95e which I may end up with.

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On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 09:20:19 +0100, Adrian Caspersz
wrote:

Just spotted some rebranding going on, they know their limitations...

https://thevinylfactory.com/features...sley-c10-c100/

There is no such thing as top end with vinyl. Poor-to-middling is as
good as it is possible to get. It has built into it distortion levels
which, in an amplifier, would result in it being binned.
Bass response is limited by the need to limit groove amplitude in
recording, and by the necessary arm resonance at reproduction.
Treble response is limited by temperature rise in the cutting head.

In short, if you are interested in musical reproduction, forget it,
but if you just want to collect interesting technology make a bid. But
don't go over a tenner.

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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 09:20:19 +0100, Adrian Caspersz
wrote:

Just spotted some rebranding going on, they know their
limitations...

https://thevinylfactory.com/features...sley-c10-c100/

There is no such thing as top end with vinyl. Poor-to-middling is as
good as it is possible to get. It has built into it distortion
levels
which, in an amplifier, would result in it being binned.
Bass response is limited by the need to limit groove amplitude in
recording, and by the necessary arm resonance at reproduction.
Treble response is limited by temperature rise in the cutting head.

In short, if you are interested in musical reproduction, forget it,
but if you just want to collect interesting technology make a bid.
But
don't go over a tenner.



Clearly you have never had the joy of listening to a direct cut disc
played on a good turntable with a moving coil cartridge into any sort
of reasonable system. It is a really something to behold.



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harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com

On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 20:26:38 +0100, "Woody"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 09:20:19 +0100, Adrian Caspersz
wrote:

Just spotted some rebranding going on, they know their
limitations...

https://thevinylfactory.com/features...sley-c10-c100/

There is no such thing as top end with vinyl. Poor-to-middling is as
good as it is possible to get. It has built into it distortion
levels
which, in an amplifier, would result in it being binned.
Bass response is limited by the need to limit groove amplitude in
recording, and by the necessary arm resonance at reproduction.
Treble response is limited by temperature rise in the cutting head.

In short, if you are interested in musical reproduction, forget it,
but if you just want to collect interesting technology make a bid.
But
don't go over a tenner.



Clearly you have never had the joy of listening to a direct cut disc
played on a good turntable with a moving coil cartridge into any sort
of reasonable system. It is a really something to behold.

I've had the vastly greater pleasure of listening to uncompressed
performances on CDs, with no background noise, bass in actual stereo
and a full frequency range.

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In article ,
Woody wrote:
Clearly you have never had the joy of listening to a direct cut disc
played on a good turntable with a moving coil cartridge into any sort
of reasonable system. It is a really something to behold.

I've had the joy of listening to the live sound in the control room where
it's being balanced/recorded. Only a good digital recording comes close to
that. Analogue tape never did, and any form of disc recording a very poor
second.

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