(Arny Krueger) wrote in message . com...
I'm dicgusted by the way this guy is persecuted. There is no proof
that he's done anything with these boys except shared his bed with
them. As he points out it is the most loving thin g a man can do -
share his bed with a boy. I do it all the time too with my
neighborhood boys, nephews and sometimes with my own daughter dressed
as a boy since my own boy died a few years ago. I tell you a girl can
make a good boy substitute with the righr haircut and a little rubber
supplement from a "love" shop ;-)

Touching a boy is not having sex if the boy is OK with it even
private-part-touching. The boy can always say no and only stands to
lose ice-cream, soda-pop and maybe a free day at an amusement-park.
Many boys simply need touching because their parents and friends won't
do it and they feel left out of any intimacy in their lives and can
become dangerous criminals if not touched by some-one. ;-(

Boys need little love in their lives too!

Just my 2-cents.

Arny Krueger

Choking on pizza...that's not so bad....just picture wacko jacko
sharing a bed with liz taylor
;-)
William

"G.S. Nail" wrote in message
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Could
result in nightmares too, possibly neurosis later in life?

Yeah. That's the real double edged sword. Sometimes you can screw your kid
up worse by doing things like this (not that what the pervs doing to them
would be right).

"G.S. Nail" wrote in message
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Could
result in nightmares too, possibly neurosis later in life?

Yeah. That's the real double edged sword. Sometimes you can screw your kid
up worse by doing things like this (not that what the pervs doing to them
would be right).

"G.S. Nail" wrote in message
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George M. Middius wrote:

Actually G, castration is classed right up there with torture as
"cruel and
unusual punishment".

I don't see how castration could be considered to be any of those
things when you have patient consent.

It's hardly "consent" when the other choice is life in prison.

I didn't describe that circumstance. If a person is found guilty of a
crime, they should serve the time. No doubt a convict can consider
taking various courses of action to moderate their behaviour, which
would be taken into account by the parole board.


A little naive, there. Maybe it would all be a manipulative snow job.




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"G.S. Nail" wrote in message
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George M. Middius wrote:

Actually G, castration is classed right up there with torture as
"cruel and
unusual punishment".

I don't see how castration could be considered to be any of those
things when you have patient consent.

It's hardly "consent" when the other choice is life in prison.

I didn't describe that circumstance. If a person is found guilty of a
crime, they should serve the time. No doubt a convict can consider
taking various courses of action to moderate their behaviour, which
would be taken into account by the parole board.


A little naive, there. Maybe it would all be a manipulative snow job.




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I still feel no compulsion to murder paedophiles. If they are ill, they
shouldnt be punished for their illness. They should be helped. Perhaps
some paedophiles arent ill, but then what would you say they are?

Would you say the same thing about serial rapists and murderers? Clearly
there is something wrong with these people, but to say that they are ill and
should be "helped" rather than punished makes them appear as the victims.
What about the young lives that they've ruined?

This is probably the most ****ed crock of **** I've ever read. People who
victimize young children are among the lowest scum on the planet and need to
pay for their crimes.

I still feel no compulsion to murder paedophiles. If they are ill, they
shouldnt be punished for their illness. They should be helped. Perhaps
some paedophiles arent ill, but then what would you say they are?

Would you say the same thing about serial rapists and murderers? Clearly
there is something wrong with these people, but to say that they are ill and
should be "helped" rather than punished makes them appear as the victims.
What about the young lives that they've ruined?

This is probably the most ****ed crock of **** I've ever read. People who
victimize young children are among the lowest scum on the planet and need to
pay for their crimes.

G.Snail wrote:

Joseph Oberlander wrote:


It's actually quite sad. The problem isn't one of him being a pedophile,
but his not coming to terms with another problem - that he wishes that
he was a woman.


That's a new one on me. You worked that out how exactly?

My father has a PHD in psychology and my ex a BA in it as well - I grew
up well versed in the various theories and such.

It's not a developmental problem - listen to his interviews - it's
extremely obvious if you close your eyes and imagine a more female voice
in its place - he fits the transexual pattern perfectly.

Nothing wrong with that - I hear Ru Paul is quite happy with her life,
for instance.

It's more probable that Jacko is locked into a child-like mentality
because he never got the opportunity to develop and progress through
puberty into adulthood in a normal way, and it's common knowledge that
he was intimidated and whipped by his father during his formative
years. Not a recipe for success.

My guess is that it's not that so much as he's trapped in a world
and body that's not what he desires. He's unable to or unwilling to
deal with this as he is under a 24/7 spotlight.

So he's regressing to a child.

It could be argued that sleeping alongside young boys is harmless, but
I think most people would identify that behaviour as being intuitively
wrong on some level or other. Jacko is patently disturbed, and for all
we know there could be merit to the accusation.

The sad thing is everyone is putting him in a box as if he was some pedophile,
when he really is just a lonely, troubled person who needs therapy.

G.Snail wrote:

Joseph Oberlander wrote:


It's actually quite sad. The problem isn't one of him being a pedophile,
but his not coming to terms with another problem - that he wishes that
he was a woman.


That's a new one on me. You worked that out how exactly?

My father has a PHD in psychology and my ex a BA in it as well - I grew
up well versed in the various theories and such.

It's not a developmental problem - listen to his interviews - it's
extremely obvious if you close your eyes and imagine a more female voice
in its place - he fits the transexual pattern perfectly.

Nothing wrong with that - I hear Ru Paul is quite happy with her life,
for instance.

It's more probable that Jacko is locked into a child-like mentality
because he never got the opportunity to develop and progress through
puberty into adulthood in a normal way, and it's common knowledge that
he was intimidated and whipped by his father during his formative
years. Not a recipe for success.

My guess is that it's not that so much as he's trapped in a world
and body that's not what he desires. He's unable to or unwilling to
deal with this as he is under a 24/7 spotlight.

So he's regressing to a child.

It could be argued that sleeping alongside young boys is harmless, but
I think most people would identify that behaviour as being intuitively
wrong on some level or other. Jacko is patently disturbed, and for all
we know there could be merit to the accusation.

The sad thing is everyone is putting him in a box as if he was some pedophile,
when he really is just a lonely, troubled person who needs therapy.

Kurt Hamster wrote:

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:38:20 +0000, G.S. Nail used
to say...


Ian Molton wrote:


My son will have all of the neighborhood perv photos memorized by the
time he is 6,

WHY? whats the point?

I think he believes he can train his kid to memorize the pervs faces,
and run in the opposite direction should he see any of them. Could
result in nightmares too, possibly neurosis later in life?


Yup, as a father of two it strikes me as a rather efficient way of
losing his child's innocent view on life.

$DEITY forbid we would want a 6 year old to lose his/her innocence and
be introduced to the nastiness in the world before they are ready to
cope with it.

I agree. Shame on him. It's his job to do twice the footwork
and make sure his child is kept away and insulated from such horrible
realities until they are at least a teenager.

If that means, for instance, watching your kid 24/7 and picking them
up from school every day, then that's a small tradeoff.