"David Houpt" wrote in message
...
Hi

I haven't posted for a while, but seeing an amplifier get a rave
review when it has a distortion level of 2.3% rising to 4% at full
output provoked me. Its the Graaf GM20 reviewed in the November issue
of Hi Fi World. Yours for a mere £3,300. Is the world going mad? I
though that the idea was that amplifiers had as little distortion as
possible. 0.1% as Harold Leak used to claim.


Sounds OK for a guitar amp.

Oh and if your test material for a £3k amp is Christina Aguilera (see the
review at http://www.ukd.co.uk/scms/news-detail.asp?PKID=24) you're probably
not a full shilling anyway.

Roy.




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"Roy" wrote in message

"David Houpt" wrote in message

Hi

I haven't posted for a while, but seeing an amplifier get a rave
review when it has a distortion level of 2.3% rising to 4% at full
output provoked me. Its the Graaf GM20 reviewed in the November issue
of Hi Fi World. Yours for a mere £3,300. Is the world going mad? I
though that the idea was that amplifiers had as little distortion as
possible. 0.1% as Harold Leak used to claim.


Sounds OK for a guitar amp.

Oh and if your test material for a £3k amp is Christina Aguilera (see the
review at you're probably
not a full shilling anyway.

Roy.



There is something about that album by Christina Aguilera, that's
different, she's not my cup of tea, but have heard it, and it is challenging
ok!

I do not care what the figures say for any amp, be it a reported 000.5% or
0.5% I go for mark 1 ears

Dave xxxx

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:51:23 GMT, "Wendy" wrote:

I do not care what the figures say for any amp, be it a reported 000.5% or
0.5% I go for mark 1 ears

Hi

I completely agree. That's what I try to do. But I just have a
suspicion that if the reviewer had seen the technical write up before
he completed the review he would have been rather less effusive (or
maybe he did?).

Regards

David

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:51:23 GMT, "Wendy" wrote:

I do not care what the figures say for any amp, be it a reported 000.5% or
0.5% I go for mark 1 ears

Hi

I completely agree. That's what I try to do. But I just have a
suspicion that if the reviewer had seen the technical write up before
he completed the review he would have been rather less effusive (or
maybe he did?).

Regards

David

"Roy" wrote in message

"David Houpt" wrote in message

Hi

I haven't posted for a while, but seeing an amplifier get a rave
review when it has a distortion level of 2.3% rising to 4% at full
output provoked me. Its the Graaf GM20 reviewed in the November issue
of Hi Fi World. Yours for a mere £3,300. Is the world going mad? I
though that the idea was that amplifiers had as little distortion as
possible. 0.1% as Harold Leak used to claim.


Sounds OK for a guitar amp.

Oh and if your test material for a £3k amp is Christina Aguilera (see the
review at you're probably
not a full shilling anyway.

Roy.



There is something about that album by Christina Aguilera, that's
different, she's not my cup of tea, but have heard it, and it is challenging
ok!

I do not care what the figures say for any amp, be it a reported 000.5% or
0.5% I go for mark 1 ears

Dave xxxx

Roy wrote:


"David Houpt" wrote in message
...
Hi

I haven't posted for a while, but seeing an amplifier get a rave
review when it has a distortion level of 2.3% rising to 4% at full
output provoked me. Its the Graaf GM20 reviewed in the November issue
of Hi Fi World. Yours for a mere £3,300. Is the world going mad? I
though that the idea was that amplifiers had as little distortion as
possible. 0.1% as Harold Leak used to claim.


Sounds OK for a guitar amp.

Oh and if your test material for a £3k amp is Christina Aguilera (see the
review at http://www.ukd.co.uk/scms/news-detail.asp?PKID=24) you're
probably not a full shilling anyway.

Roy.


The bit in that review I liked best was 'The amp can be run direct from any
CD, SACD or DVD player via a passive preamp'

Isn't passive preamp an oxymoron?

Ian

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:52:41 +0000, Ian Bell
wrote:

Roy wrote:


"David Houpt" wrote in message
...
Hi

I haven't posted for a while, but seeing an amplifier get a rave
review when it has a distortion level of 2.3% rising to 4% at full
output provoked me. Its the Graaf GM20 reviewed in the November issue
of Hi Fi World. Yours for a mere £3,300. Is the world going mad? I
though that the idea was that amplifiers had as little distortion as
possible. 0.1% as Harold Leak used to claim.

Not if all competent amps sound the same, so you have to provide some
deliberate degradation to justify the 3 grand ticket!

Sounds OK for a guitar amp.

Oh and if your test material for a £3k amp is Christina Aguilera (see the
review at http://www.ukd.co.uk/scms/news-detail.asp?PKID=24) you're
probably not a full shilling anyway.

Roy.


The bit in that review I liked best was 'The amp can be run direct from any
CD, SACD or DVD player via a passive preamp'

Isn't passive preamp an oxymoron?

I prefer the term 'passive controller', and I use one myself, but an
Oxymoron is someone who couldn't get into Cambridge...... :-)

--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:52:41 +0000, Ian Bell
wrote:

Roy wrote:


"David Houpt" wrote in message
...
Hi

I haven't posted for a while, but seeing an amplifier get a rave
review when it has a distortion level of 2.3% rising to 4% at full
output provoked me. Its the Graaf GM20 reviewed in the November issue
of Hi Fi World. Yours for a mere £3,300. Is the world going mad? I
though that the idea was that amplifiers had as little distortion as
possible. 0.1% as Harold Leak used to claim.

Not if all competent amps sound the same, so you have to provide some
deliberate degradation to justify the 3 grand ticket!

Sounds OK for a guitar amp.

Oh and if your test material for a £3k amp is Christina Aguilera (see
the review at http://www.ukd.co.uk/scms/news-detail.asp?PKID=24) you're
probably not a full shilling anyway.

Roy.


The bit in that review I liked best was 'The amp can be run direct from
any CD, SACD or DVD player via a passive preamp'

Isn't passive preamp an oxymoron?

I prefer the term 'passive controller', and I use one myself, but an
Oxymoron is someone who couldn't get into Cambridge...... :-)


That at least makes sense but what *is* it? passive vol and tone controls?

Ian

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:25:20 +0000, Ian Bell
wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:52:41 +0000, Ian Bell
wrote:

Roy wrote:

The bit in that review I liked best was 'The amp can be run direct from
any CD, SACD or DVD player via a passive preamp'

Isn't passive preamp an oxymoron?

I prefer the term 'passive controller', and I use one myself, but an
Oxymoron is someone who couldn't get into Cambridge...... :-)

That at least makes sense but what *is* it? passive vol and tone controls?

Oh, right, I didn't realise you weren't familiar with the term. It's
just a pot and a source selector switch in a box, or a pot and a pile
of relays in my case.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:25:20 +0000, Ian Bell
wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:52:41 +0000, Ian Bell
wrote:

Roy wrote:

The bit in that review I liked best was 'The amp can be run direct from
any CD, SACD or DVD player via a passive preamp'

Isn't passive preamp an oxymoron?

I prefer the term 'passive controller', and I use one myself, but an
Oxymoron is someone who couldn't get into Cambridge...... :-)

That at least makes sense but what *is* it? passive vol and tone controls?

Oh, right, I didn't realise you weren't familiar with the term. It's
just a pot and a source selector switch in a box, or a pot and a pile
of relays in my case.

Cheers. Makes sense now.

Merry Xmas

Ian