"What HiFi" - can it be trusted?
 

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 12:26:25 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:

(No-one in his right mind though is going to suggest that 'digital' will
ever match the sheer quality of a top notch Hasselblad/Zeiss T* or Leica
B&W
bromide print though, despite that in terms of 'hue', if nothing else, it
is
immediately a lot less 'accurate' than a colour digital photo from the
outset.....)

Wrong. Unless you restrict yourself to films of less than 100 ASA, the
Canon 1Ds will beat the pants off any Leica. The jury may be out on
the Hassel, since the digiback for that is about 20 grand!

In much the same way, a good SS amp will beat the pants off your
rose-tinted valve amps. A bad recording is not *supposed* to sound
relaxing........................



*Tooooo* easy! :-)

Anyway, forget all that (totally wrong anyway) and see what I've done
*since* I posted the above:

This:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...riaacard01.jpg

became this:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...riaacard02.jpg

and got plugged in thus:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...riaacard03.jpg

where it worked first time - the card being powered by the PC and one deck
(not in the picture) is being played on another computer (because it's got
the speakers on it (also not in the picture or same room come to that!).....

.....and is now on it's way to becoming my 'RIAA input PC Card' when I suss
out a connector to the soundcard and rig up a pair of phonos on a spare slot
on the computer for the inputs.

(How's them apples for an old fart who don't have a 'techie' bone in his
body????)

:-)

And, Nick, so far there's no 'noise' whatsoever - don't know about when I
start to stuff it in the box. I'm hoping I'll be able to screen it, if
necessary......

"What HiFi" - can it be trusted?
 

On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 12:26:25 -0000
"Keith G" wrote:

Which doesn't exist or ever will - it's up to the individual to make
the necessary trade-offs between 'accurate' and 'pleasant' to listen
to in terms of 'distortion'.

To all intents and purposes any amp thats linear up to about 40-50kHz is
ideal in audio terms. you will NEVER hear the difference, probably even
at lower frequncy limits than that (I picked 50kHz as its well beyond
any meaningful measure for humans)

My own view (surprise surprise) is that valves and analogue, while
supposedly less 'accurate', are *far* more pleasant (and a lot less
tiring)

Who says valves have to produce a non-linear output? you can build
perfectly linear valve amps if you try. A linear valve amp and a linear
SS amp rated to driev the same loads, will sound *identical* to each
other in any measurable way.

as to frequency response and all that... My dad has a 20MHz valve scope
around, which is at least proof of concept...

Valves still look cooler ;-)

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Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are tasty and good with
ketchup.

"What HiFi" - can it be trusted?
 

On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 12:26:25 -0000
"Keith G" wrote:

Which doesn't exist or ever will - it's up to the individual to make
the necessary trade-offs between 'accurate' and 'pleasant' to listen
to in terms of 'distortion'.

To all intents and purposes any amp thats linear up to about 40-50kHz is
ideal in audio terms. you will NEVER hear the difference, probably even
at lower frequncy limits than that (I picked 50kHz as its well beyond
any meaningful measure for humans)

My own view (surprise surprise) is that valves and analogue, while
supposedly less 'accurate', are *far* more pleasant (and a lot less
tiring)

Who says valves have to produce a non-linear output? you can build
perfectly linear valve amps if you try. A linear valve amp and a linear
SS amp rated to driev the same loads, will sound *identical* to each
other in any measurable way.

as to frequency response and all that... My dad has a 20MHz valve scope
around, which is at least proof of concept...

Valves still look cooler ;-)

--
Spyros lair: http://www.mnementh.co.uk/ |||| Maintainer: arm26 linux

Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are tasty and good with
ketchup.

"What HiFi" - can it be trusted?
 

Keith G wrote:

And, Nick, so far there's no 'noise' whatsoever - don't know about when I
start to stuff it in the box. I'm hoping I'll be able to screen it, if
necessary......


Great, but don't ignore noise you can't hear.

Hmm, not sure how many negatives there are in that phrase...

--
Nick

"What HiFi" - can it be trusted?
 

Keith G wrote:

And, Nick, so far there's no 'noise' whatsoever - don't know about when I
start to stuff it in the box. I'm hoping I'll be able to screen it, if
necessary......


Great, but don't ignore noise you can't hear.

Hmm, not sure how many negatives there are in that phrase...

--
Nick

"What HiFi" - can it be trusted?
 

On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 20:06:13 +0000, Kurt Hamster
wrote:

I'll stick to my 20 yr old Minolta SLR and Yashica TLR thanks :)

I took most of my 7,000 slide archive on an XD-7, loaded with
Kodachrome 25.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

"What HiFi" - can it be trusted?
 

On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 20:06:13 +0000, Kurt Hamster
wrote:

I'll stick to my 20 yr old Minolta SLR and Yashica TLR thanks :)

I took most of my 7,000 slide archive on an XD-7, loaded with
Kodachrome 25.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

"What HiFi" - can it be trusted?
 

Hi Nick,

I'm just about to start fitting the card into the PC case (will send photos
if/when successful). I have to say it is sounding very good atm -very
'clean' to the ear at any rate. (Easily as good as CDs played in the
computer - not bad for 9.99!! :-)

How can we test for 'noise'? Is it as simple as I record something and send
you a shortish WAV or summat and you put it through your gismo?


Keith





"Nick Gorham" wrote in message
...
Keith G wrote:

And, Nick, so far there's no 'noise' whatsoever - don't know about when
I
start to stuff it in the box. I'm hoping I'll be able to screen it, if
necessary......


Great, but don't ignore noise you can't hear.

Hmm, not sure how many negatives there are in that phrase...

--
Nick

"What HiFi" - can it be trusted?
 

Hi Nick,

I'm just about to start fitting the card into the PC case (will send photos
if/when successful). I have to say it is sounding very good atm -very
'clean' to the ear at any rate. (Easily as good as CDs played in the
computer - not bad for 9.99!! :-)

How can we test for 'noise'? Is it as simple as I record something and send
you a shortish WAV or summat and you put it through your gismo?


Keith





"Nick Gorham" wrote in message
...
Keith G wrote:

And, Nick, so far there's no 'noise' whatsoever - don't know about when
I
start to stuff it in the box. I'm hoping I'll be able to screen it, if
necessary......


Great, but don't ignore noise you can't hear.

Hmm, not sure how many negatives there are in that phrase...

--
Nick

"What HiFi" - can it be trusted?
 

Oops, meant to send this direct!



"Keith G" wrote in message
...

Hi Nick,

I'm just about to start fitting the card into the PC case (will send
photos
if/when successful). I have to say it is sounding very good atm -very
'clean' to the ear at any rate. (Easily as good as CDs played in the
computer - not bad for 9.99!! :-)

How can we test for 'noise'? Is it as simple as I record something and
send
you a shortish WAV or summat and you put it through your gismo?


Keith





"Nick Gorham" wrote in message
...
Keith G wrote:

And, Nick, so far there's no 'noise' whatsoever - don't know about
when
I
start to stuff it in the box. I'm hoping I'll be able to screen it, if
necessary......


Great, but don't ignore noise you can't hear.

Hmm, not sure how many negatives there are in that phrase...

--
Nick