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Laurence Payne January 17th 04 01:44 PM

Views wanted on M Audio Delta 66 (Was Hard Disc Player Sound Quality)
 
On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 02:15:24 GMT,
(pmailkeey) wrote:


I've a M Audio Delta 66 sound card and wonder what you experts think
of it quality of sound wise on its analogue outs. I have noticed the
mains hum is quieter than the CPU fan !
--


I'd hope it's a lot quieter than that :-)

tony sayer January 17th 04 06:27 PM

Views wanted on M Audio Delta 66 (Was Hard Disc Player Sound Quality)
 
In article , Arny Krueger
writes
"pmailkeey" wrote in message

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:33:36 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:

:)
:)
:)(How *topical* can this group be - I've got to hook my DAC up to my
:)soundcard this very afternoon - and this is not the first time this
has :)happened by a long chalk!!)
:)

I've a M Audio Delta 66 sound card and wonder what you experts think
of it quality of sound wise on its analogue outs. I have noticed the
mains hum is quieter than the CPU fan !



Is that card another name for the Audiophile 24/96?....

--
Tony Sayer


Glenn Booth January 17th 04 08:01 PM

Views wanted on M Audio Delta 66 (Was Hard Disc Player Sound Quality)
 
Hi,
In message , tony sayer
writes

Is that card another name for the Audiophile 24/96?....


No, it's different - The 66 has more channels of I/O, a break-out box
and it supports +4dBu signal levels. I haven't used one, so can't
comment on the analogue signal quality.

I use the Audiophile 24/96 a lot and like it (not the best in absolute
quality terms for the money, but plenty good enough) and we have a Delta
1010 at work, which is very good.

--
Regards,
Glenn Booth

pmailkeey January 20th 04 11:37 PM

Hard Disc Player Sound Quality
 
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 17:42:22 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

:)"pmailkeey" wrote in message

:) What's the prob with ground loops ?
:)
:)In analog lines they can cause audible hum, in digital lines they can cause
:)lots of jitter.

I'll not ask what jitter is, but I guess it can't be good :)
--
Comm again, Mike.

Ian Molton January 21st 04 12:15 AM

Hard Disc Player Sound Quality
 
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 00:37:43 GMT
(pmailkeey) wrote:

I'll not ask what jitter is, but I guess it can't be good :)


its 'noise' in the tioming of the digital pulses, ie. they arrive slightly earlier or later than they should.

jitter should be *irrelevant* on any well designed system. Even quite large amounts of it.

--
Spyros lair:
http://www.mnementh.co.uk/ |||| Maintainer: arm26 linux

Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are tasty and good with ketchup.

pmailkeey January 21st 04 12:51 AM

Views wanted on M Audio Delta 66 (Was Hard Disc Player Sound Quality)
 
On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 06:13:35 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

:)"pmailkeey" wrote in message

:) On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:33:36 -0000, "Keith G"
:) wrote:
:)
:) :)
:) :)
:) :)(How *topical* can this group be - I've got to hook my DAC up to my
:) :)soundcard this very afternoon - and this is not the first time this
:) has :)happened by a long chalk!!)
:) :)
:)
:) I've a M Audio Delta 66 sound card and wonder what you experts think
:) of it quality of sound wise on its analogue outs. I have noticed the
:) mains hum is quieter than the CPU fan !
:)
:)Please see:
:)
:)http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/delta-66/index.htm
:)
:)Compare that to a similar report for a good CD player:
:)
:)http://www.pcavtech.com/play-rec/cd67se/index.htm

A DNS lookup error occurred because the request timed out during the
lookup.

I guess the site's down.
--
Comm again, Mike.

Arny Krueger January 21st 04 01:15 AM

Views wanted on M Audio Delta 66 (Was Hard Disc Player Sound Quality)
 
"pmailkeey" wrote in message

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 06:13:35 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

:)"pmailkeey" wrote in message

:) On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:33:36 -0000, "Keith G"
:) wrote:
:)
:) :)
:) :)
:) :)(How *topical* can this group be - I've got to hook my DAC up
to my :) :)soundcard this very afternoon - and this is not the first
time this :) has :)happened by a long chalk!!)
:) :)
:)
:) I've a M Audio Delta 66 sound card and wonder what you experts
think :) of it quality of sound wise on its analogue outs. I have
noticed the :) mains hum is quieter than the CPU fan !
:)
:)Please see:
:)
:)http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/delta-66/index.htm
:)
:)Compare that to a similar report for a good CD player:
:)
:)http://www.pcavtech.com/play-rec/cd67se/index.htm

A DNS lookup error occurred because the request timed out during the
lookup.

I guess the site's down.


Nope. Perhaps your ISP is not doing his job.



Stewart Pinkerton January 21st 04 07:11 AM

Hard Disc Player Sound Quality
 
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 01:15:15 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 00:37:43 GMT
(pmailkeey) wrote:

I'll not ask what jitter is, but I guess it can't be good :)


its 'noise' in the tioming of the digital pulses, ie. they arrive slightly earlier or later than they should.

jitter should be *irrelevant* on any well designed system. Even quite large amounts of it.


At the point of conversion, it's absolutely critical. That's the main
problem with standalone DACs for CD.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Ian Molton January 21st 04 08:15 AM

Hard Disc Player Sound Quality
 
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:11:37 +0000 (UTC)
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:

jitter should be *irrelevant* on any well designed system. Even quite
large amounts of it.


At the point of conversion, it's absolutely critical. That's the main
problem with standalone DACs for CD.


The point being, of course, that any *WELL* designed system will use a
good PLL and thus eliminate the problem.

--
Spyros lair:
http://www.mnementh.co.uk/ |||| Maintainer: arm26 linux

Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are tasty and good with
ketchup.

Arny Krueger January 21st 04 09:57 AM

Hard Disc Player Sound Quality
 
"Ian Molton" wrote in message

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:11:37 +0000 (UTC)
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:

jitter should be *irrelevant* on any well designed system. Even
quite large amounts of it.


At the point of conversion, it's absolutely critical. That's the main
problem with standalone DACs for CD.


The point being, of course, that any *WELL* designed system will use a
good PLL and thus eliminate the problem.


Agreed.

However, any number of poorly-designed systems have hit the marketplace.

We then have reports that a given (incompetently designed) DAC is so
*revealing* that it allows you to clearly hear differences between
transports and digital interconnect cables... Of course you are supposed to
run right out and buy one!




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