Not considering that there was continual migration from Ireland to the US
over the period. Therefore the Irish contingent in the US was being
increased by migration. Todays US Irish population isn't just the result of
births from the original immigrants to the US 150 years ago.


"Michael Conzo" wrote in message
...
"APR" wrote:

And Michael, just to prove a point....
In June 1995, Australia's population was 18.1 million, almost twice the
size
it was 40 years ago, and four times the size in 1910

Comparing countries with essentially open migration like the US and
Australia to a countries natural growth rate is absurd.

The fact remains your assertions are dodgy.

On Sat, 7 May 2005 10:56:30 +0000 (UTC), Rob
wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On Sat, 07 May 2005 14:39:52 +1000, Michael Conzo
wrote:

"Patric" wrote:

I'm sure a reasonable person such as yourself can see that almost 2
million people could quite easily reach 22 million in approximately
160 years since the Famine emigration began.

A demographer you're not.

And he's not Irish-American, either.

The population of China in 1850 was about 450,000,000. By your analysis,
China (also until recently with extremely large families) should have a
population of almost 5 billion now.

Your statistics are dodgy by a factor of at least four.

Well, de Oirish was always a bit tick, boyo..............

Is that supposed to be funny?

Only if you're not a tick Oirishman...........
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Sat, 07 May 2005 09:59:21 GMT, "Tim Martin"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...

Probably because the foreign Irish aren't as well versed in history.

I sometimes think that people who buy books are as gullible as those who buy
hi-fi. People have a stunning capacity for believing nonsense.

For what it's worth ,my advice to anyone interested in learning about Irish
history is:

1) Search out books on Irish history written by Irish historians working at
Irish universities. That's the best way I can think of to ensure that the
books are based on factual Irish history.

However, be sure to ignore any opinions of the English contained
therein.......................

2) Ignore any specific recommendations for books. There's just too much
political propagandaout there, exploited by pot-boiler authors whose aim is
to make money rather than enlighten. And the more sensational the author's
claims, the more money made.

Ah, you've been reading Andre Jute? :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Sat, 7 May 2005 10:53:40 +0000 (UTC), Rob
wrote:

Tim Martin wrote:
"Patric" wrote in message
...

"It might also help a reasonable person to understand why many people of
Irish extraction don't exactly hald the English is very high regard"

It's worth noting that that attitude is mainly displayed by non-Irish people
"of Irish extraction"; the Irish and English themselves get on fine ...
Lots of us have dual citizenship, being Irish Citizens and British Citizens.

Tim


Direct and indirect discrimination of Irish communities and individuals
is a well-documented issue, and *remains* an institutionalised aspect of
British society. I - and I'm sure may who read this NG - have first hand
experience of the process.

Those of us with first-hand experience of Irish 'travellers' may note
that such discimination is not based on prejudice, but on accurate
observation............
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Sat, 07 May 2005 10:35:35 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

On Sat, 07 May 2005 09:59:21 GMT, "Tim Martin"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...

Probably because the foreign Irish aren't as well versed in history.

I sometimes think that people who buy books are as gullible as those who buy
hi-fi. People have a stunning capacity for believing nonsense.

For what it's worth ,my advice to anyone interested in learning about Irish
history is:

1) Search out books on Irish history written by Irish historians working at
Irish universities. That's the best way I can think of to ensure that the
books are based on factual Irish history.


Disagree here. What you will get in any history book - particularly
one written by someone with a personal agenda or interest will always
be a partial account. Read books from both sides, discard 90% of each
as nonsense and you have half a chance of getting something solid.

Bingo!

--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Pukey said:

Those of us with first-hand experience of Irish 'travellers' may note
that such discimination is not based on prejudice, but on accurate
observation............

And yet they say not all Scots are drunks. Have you no pride, Pinkie?

On Sun, 08 May 2005 07:12:07 -0400, George M. Middius
wrote:



Pukey said:

Those of us with first-hand experience of Irish 'travellers' may note
that such discimination is not based on prejudice, but on accurate
observation............

And yet they say not all Scots are drunks. Have you no pride, Pinkie?

Hell. I thought I'd just flashed back to RAO. Hell again.

On Sun, 08 May 2005 11:50:19 GMT, (paul packer)
wrote:

On Sun, 08 May 2005 07:12:07 -0400, George M. Middius
wrote:



Pukey said:

Those of us with first-hand experience of Irish 'travellers' may note
that such discimination is not based on prejudice, but on accurate
observation............

And yet they say not all Scots are drunks. Have you no pride, Pinkie?

Hell. I thought I'd just flashed back to RAO. Hell again.

You have. This thread is cross-posted there :-(

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Pearce Consulting
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Don Pearce said:

You have. This thread is cross-posted there :-(

Paulie rolls over and plays dead on command. Last time he surfaced, the
command was "God wants NATO to perish in a cauldron of flames in Iraq." We
haven't learned what the new command is. I'm thinking of trying out
something related to rogue icebergs.

On Sun, 08 May 2005 08:15:49 -0400, George M. Middius
wrote:



Don Pearce said:

You have. This thread is cross-posted there :-(

Paulie rolls over and plays dead on command. Last time he surfaced, the
command was "God wants NATO to perish in a cauldron of flames in Iraq." We
haven't learned what the new command is. I'm thinking of trying out
something related to rogue icebergs.




And their impact on Kansas?

d

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