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Old July 7th 04, 12:05 AM posted to alt.audio.equipment,alt.music.mobile-djs,rec.audio.marketplace,rec.audio.pro,uk.rec.audio
DJ TecThreat
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"Sanders" wrote in message
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IMO, the best thing to do would be to rebuild the cabinets in some A/D
plywood. Particleboard is very heavy to move after a nights gig,
especially if you don't have a ton of roadies. The plywood would also
be much stronger that the particleboard.


You dont build boxes out of plywood or particleboard, for a proper build,
you build them out of MDF, preferably 3/4" or 1"

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Old July 6th 04, 11:50 PM posted to alt.audio.equipment,alt.music.mobile-djs,rec.audio.marketplace,rec.audio.pro,uk.rec.audio
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"Pooh Bear" wrote in message

Scott Dorsey wrote:

snip

My question, though, is whether anyone has tried the spray-on truck
bed liner material. Around here, lots of pickup trucks are driving
around with this spray-on polymer stuff in the bed, and there are
places all over the place that are applying it. It looks like just
the thing to stiffen an A-7.


I've heard you mention this truck bed stuff before Scott but I have
no idea what it is. Clearly in the UK it's called something else. The
OP's in the UK too btw.

Do you have a link to a supplier ? Would be interesting to see the
description and try and make sense of it.



http://www.rhinoliningseurope.com/li...ct/product.htm


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Old July 7th 04, 12:52 AM posted to alt.audio.equipment,alt.music.mobile-djs,rec.audio.marketplace,rec.audio.pro,uk.rec.audio
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Arny Krueger wrote:

"Pooh Bear" wrote in message

Scott Dorsey wrote:

snip

My question, though, is whether anyone has tried the spray-on truck
bed liner material. Around here, lots of pickup trucks are driving
around with this spray-on polymer stuff in the bed, and there are
places all over the place that are applying it. It looks like just
the thing to stiffen an A-7.


I've heard you mention this truck bed stuff before Scott but I have
no idea what it is. Clearly in the UK it's called something else. The
OP's in the UK too btw.

Do you have a link to a supplier ? Would be interesting to see the
description and try and make sense of it.


http://www.rhinoliningseurope.com/li...ct/product.htm


Thanks, Arny.

They have just the one distributor in the mainland UK - kind of explains
why I never heard of it I guess.

Looks interesting.


Graham


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Old July 7th 04, 01:05 AM posted to alt.audio.equipment,alt.music.mobile-djs,rec.audio.marketplace,rec.audio.pro,uk.rec.audio
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DJ TecThreat beaniATcharterDOTnetNOSPAM wrote:
"levyte357" wrote in message

My "Sound Guy" I took with me to check them out before buying them,

said
it
would be worthwhile to strip the vinyl, and spray them with

fibreglass
resin.


Its a little more than just a spray AFAIK, i used to work for a car

audio
shop making enclosers, kick pods, panels, bezels, etc.. out of

fiberglass
and there was alot of preparation and mixing involved and if not done

right
it can be a mess, its also very hazzardess your health and is deadly if

the
right precautions arent taken.

Now, dont get discouraged, if you feel you can do it, then i would get
intouch with a fiberglass supply company, i dont know of any in the UK

and
the one where i got my stuff from says they wont ship out of the US.


Take it to a surfboard shop and have them do the work. They do it all

day
long, and they don't charge a lot.


Do they have sufboard shops in East London?
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Old July 7th 04, 03:22 AM posted to alt.audio.equipment,alt.music.mobile-djs,rec.audio.marketplace,rec.audio.pro,uk.rec.audio
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Are you talking A-7 as in Speaker Cabs the old Altec Lansing type? Wow I
still have mine from 1979
Voice of Theater most awesome cabs ever made.

djfixx
"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
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DJ TecThreat beaniATcharterDOTnetNOSPAM wrote:
"levyte357" wrote in message

My "Sound Guy" I took with me to check them out before buying them, said

it
would be worthwhile to strip the vinyl, and spray them with fibreglass
resin.


Its a little more than just a spray AFAIK, i used to work for a car audio
shop making enclosers, kick pods, panels, bezels, etc.. out of fiberglass
and there was alot of preparation and mixing involved and if not done
right
it can be a mess, its also very hazzardess your health and is deadly if
the
right precautions arent taken.

Now, dont get discouraged, if you feel you can do it, then i would get
intouch with a fiberglass supply company, i dont know of any in the UK and
the one where i got my stuff from says they wont ship out of the US.


Take it to a surfboard shop and have them do the work. They do it all day
long, and they don't charge a lot.

My question, though, is whether anyone has tried the spray-on truck bed
liner material. Around here, lots of pickup trucks are driving around
with
this spray-on polymer stuff in the bed, and there are places all over the
place that are applying it. It looks like just the thing to stiffen an
A-7.
--scott


--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."



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Old July 7th 04, 02:04 PM posted to alt.audio.equipment,alt.music.mobile-djs,rec.audio.marketplace,rec.audio.pro,uk.rec.audio
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dj wrote:
Are you talking A-7 as in Speaker Cabs the old Altec Lansing type? Wow I
still have mine from 1979
Voice of Theater most awesome cabs ever made.


Yes, but they are have all kinds of wacky resonances. You tap on the cabinet
with your hand and you can hear all sorts of stuff going on. That's why they
need to be stiffened. Problem is that most of the reinforcement also involves
adding substantial weight to the boxes. That's why the spray-on stuff looks
like it might be interesting (although still some additional supporting members
in the box would be a good idea).
--scott

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Old July 7th 04, 01:05 PM posted to alt.audio.equipment,alt.music.mobile-djs,rec.audio.marketplace,rec.audio.pro,uk.rec.audio
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(Scott Dorsey) wrote in message ...
DJ TecThreat beaniATcharterDOTnetNOSPAM wrote:
"levyte357" wrote in message

My "Sound Guy" I took with me to check them out before buying them, said

it
would be worthwhile to strip the vinyl, and spray them with fibreglass
resin.


Its a little more than just a spray AFAIK, i used to work for a car audio
shop making enclosers, kick pods, panels, bezels, etc.. out of fiberglass
and there was alot of preparation and mixing involved and if not done right
it can be a mess, its also very hazzardess your health and is deadly if the
right precautions arent taken.

Now, dont get discouraged, if you feel you can do it, then i would get
intouch with a fiberglass supply company, i dont know of any in the UK and
the one where i got my stuff from says they wont ship out of the US.


Take it to a surfboard shop and have them do the work. They do it all day
long, and they don't charge a lot.

My question, though, is whether anyone has tried the spray-on truck bed
liner material. Around here, lots of pickup trucks are driving around with
this spray-on polymer stuff in the bed, and there are places all over the
place that are applying it. It looks like just the thing to stiffen an A-7.
--scott


He's in East London Scott, so I doubt the place is brimming with
surfboard shops...good suggestion about the truck bed liner, but again
how many pickup trucks are running around the UK.

Also I wonder about with environmental regs over there how easy it is
to apply fiberglass resin or spray polymers.

IIRC, Fender now paints all their guitars down in Mexico because of
environmental regs in Cali...which is so American - "hey let's go
pollute someone else's country".

Analogeezer
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Old July 7th 04, 01:22 PM posted to alt.audio.equipment,alt.music.mobile-djs,rec.audio.marketplace,rec.audio.pro,uk.rec.audio
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How about calling it the way large corporations work and not just
American. I don't agree with polluting of the planet by any country, no
matter how big their pockerbook is and I am an American.

I am sure the labor costs are another factor of this.

IIRC, Fender now paints all their guitars down in Mexico because of
environmental regs in Cali...which is so American - "hey let's go
pollute someone else's country".

Analogeezer


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Old July 6th 04, 12:37 PM posted to alt.audio.equipment,alt.music.mobile-djs,rec.audio.marketplace,rec.audio.pro,uk.rec.audio
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Yeah that's one idea.. OR, you could get hold of some Pro Industry paint
called "Rock Hard". Just brush it on and you will have a very strong but
hi qual finish. Not cheap but worth every $$.


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"levyte357" wrote in message
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I recently acquired 4 18" scoop bins at an absurdly cheap price
due to reclaim of storage space.

Unfortunately, they are made of High Density chipboard,
and covered with aged vinly covering, but have good dimensions and are

VERY,
VERY solid.

My "Sound Guy" I took with me to check them out before buying them, said

it
would be worthwhile to strip the vinyl, and spray them with fibreglass
resin.

I am in E London.

Q1. Where can I get fibreglass spray in London?
Q2. Is it better to paint boxes first, then spray/paint on resin?
Q3. Would it be cheaper for a cabinet maker to do it ?

Thanx in advance.




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Old July 6th 04, 02:00 PM posted to alt.audio.equipment,alt.music.mobile-djs,rec.audio.marketplace,rec.audio.pro,uk.rec.audio
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"levyte357" wrote in message
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I recently acquired 4 18" scoop bins at an absurdly cheap price
due to reclaim of storage space.

Unfortunately, they are made of High Density chipboard,
and covered with aged vinly covering, but have good dimensions and are

VERY,
VERY solid.

My "Sound Guy" I took with me to check them out before buying them, said

it
would be worthwhile to strip the vinyl, and spray them with fibreglass
resin.

I am in E London.

Q1. Where can I get fibreglass spray in London?
Q2. Is it better to paint boxes first, then spray/paint on resin?
Q3. Would it be cheaper for a cabinet maker to do it ?

Thanx in advance.

There are new wonders every day, but I've never heard of fiberglass spray.

Traditionally, "fiberglass" consists of glass fiber, either in the form of a
woven mat, or a thick muddy mixture of glass and resin.
The resin has two components, much like epoxy. There is a hardener.
The resin contains methyl-ethlyl-ketone, which means it smells very strong
and very bad. I would not do this in a very densely populated city area; you
can get away with it in the suburbs.


 




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