Tat Chan wrote:

sorry if this caused any confusion.

Anyway ... I know people who buy cars based on features and they don't
test drive them first (new cars anyway, you might be able to do a test
drive on a 2nd hand model). If you are buying an ex-govt or fleet car
at an auction, I doubt you would be able to do a test drive as well.

In excess of 70% of BMW 7-series buyers don't test drive a car before
placing an order

In article ,
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
You have to specify what you want with these - they're not a take it or
leave it package like your 'stock' Astra, etc.

Last time I looked, there were a lot more Astra models than there were
NADs....................

Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of 'stock' as applied to cars?

--
*Frankly, scallop, I don't give a clam

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Stimpy" wrote in message
...
Tat Chan wrote:

sorry if this caused any confusion.

Anyway ... I know people who buy cars based on features and they don't
test drive them first (new cars anyway, you might be able to do a test
drive on a 2nd hand model). If you are buying an ex-govt or fleet car
at an auction, I doubt you would be able to do a test drive as well.

In excess of 70% of BMW 7-series buyers don't test drive a car before
placing an order


:-)


(48% of all statistics are made up on the spot.......!!!)

Keith G wrote:

Anyway ... I know people who buy cars based on features and they
don't test drive them first (new cars anyway, you might be able to
do a test drive on a 2nd hand model). If you are buying an ex-govt
or fleet car at an auction, I doubt you would be able to do a test
drive as well.

In excess of 70% of BMW 7-series buyers don't test drive a car before
placing an order

(48% of all statistics are made up on the spot.......!!!)

:-) The 70% figure comes from BMW's own research

"Stimpy" wrote in message
...
Keith G wrote:

Anyway ... I know people who buy cars based on features and they
don't test drive them first (new cars anyway, you might be able to
do a test drive on a 2nd hand model). If you are buying an ex-govt
or fleet car at an auction, I doubt you would be able to do a test
drive as well.

In excess of 70% of BMW 7-series buyers don't test drive a car before
placing an order

(48% of all statistics are made up on the spot.......!!!)

:-) The 70% figure comes from BMW's own research


OK, see your point - better jack that up to 78% then.......

:-)

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 18:00:28 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
You have to specify what you want with these - they're not a take it or
leave it package like your 'stock' Astra, etc.

Last time I looked, there were a lot more Astra models than there were
NADs....................

Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of 'stock' as applied to cars?

A stock car is something entirely different! OTOH, my local Vauxhall
dealer has about ten different Astras in stock - how about your local
NAD dealer?
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

In article ,
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of 'stock' as applied to cars?

A stock car is something entirely different!

As regards racing, perhaps. In normal car speak in the UK it is used to
indicate a 'base' or 'poverty' model, although it's not much used these
days. And that's obviously what I took the OP to mean by it.

OTOH, my local Vauxhall dealer has about ten different Astras in stock -
how about your local NAD dealer?

You're interested in the stock of Astras at your local dealer? Wierd...

--
*Parenthetical remarks (however relevant) are (usually) unnecessary *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of 'stock' as applied to
cars?

A stock car is something entirely different!

As regards racing, perhaps. In normal car speak in the UK it is used
to indicate a 'base' or 'poverty' model, although it's not much used
these days. And that's obviously what I took the OP to mean by it.

That's usually referred to as the 'base' model. In all (?) the dealerships
I worked in, 'stock' referred to the vehicles we had 'in stock' or 'on the
board' at that moment.

In the US, 'stock' refers to an unmodified car

On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 14:39:19 +0100, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of 'stock' as applied to
cars?

A stock car is something entirely different!

As regards racing, perhaps. In normal car speak in the UK it is used
to indicate a 'base' or 'poverty' model, although it's not much used
these days. And that's obviously what I took the OP to mean by it.

********, I've been buying cars for forty years and I've *never* heard
*anyone* refer to a base model as a 'stock' model.

That's usually referred to as the 'base' model. In all (?) the dealerships
I worked in, 'stock' referred to the vehicles we had 'in stock' or 'on the
board' at that moment.

In the US, 'stock' refers to an unmodified car

Quite so.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 14:39:19 +0100, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of 'stock' as applied to
cars?

A stock car is something entirely different!

As regards racing, perhaps. In normal car speak in the UK it is used
to indicate a 'base' or 'poverty' model, although it's not much used
these days. And that's obviously what I took the OP to mean by it.

********, I've been buying cars for forty years


ditto (had about or just over a 100 different ones myself now...)


and I've *never* heard
*anyone* refer to a base model as a 'stock' model.


neither have I - 'base' or 'basic' model only...



That's usually referred to as the 'base' model. In all (?) the
dealerships
I worked in, 'stock' referred to the vehicles we had 'in stock' or 'on
the
board' at that moment.

In the US, 'stock' refers to an unmodified car


In the UK a 'stock car' is one made for racing - similar to (but probably
not the same as) 'banger racing'.

I ground Barry Ansell's valves in for him when I was a schoolkid (so that's
pre 1964, when I left/escaped) and he went on to become World Champion that
year and a friend of mine had is arm ripped off at the shoulder, stock car
racing....

(End of 'stock car' anecdotes and *all* interest in the subject.....)