Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

It would, I suggest, be better to compare them to mass-market audio
separates from manufacturers along the lines of Rotel, NAD and
Marantz

You have to specify what you want with these - they're not a take it
or leave it package like your 'stock' Astra, etc.

This comment confuses me. Can you explain what you mean by "You have to
specify what you want with these" in relation to Rotel/NAD/Marantz kit?

Almost no mass-market production car on the market these days is a 'take it
or leave it' product; even the 'stock' Astra (currently the 1.6 Envoy) comes
with an options list. Some of these a factory fit and are incorporated into
the vehicle at build; others are dealer fit and are added by the dealer
before delivery.

Do NAD provide a similar options list for each of their individual models?
I think not, you buy the amp you want directly from the catalogue/dealer and
you receive that model - NAD or the dealer don't offer factory fit or dealer
fit options to modify the product.

In article ,
Stimpy wrote:
It would, I suggest, be better to compare them to mass-market audio
separates from manufacturers along the lines of Rotel, NAD and
Marantz

You have to specify what you want with these - they're not a take it
or leave it package like your 'stock' Astra, etc.

This comment confuses me. Can you explain what you mean by "You have to
specify what you want with these" in relation to Rotel/NAD/Marantz kit?

Well, do you want CD? FM? DAB? Vinyl? Tape? MD? And what speakers? What
power for the amp etc? The list is pretty endless. And then there's the
cables.

Buy a music centre and you just plug it all in.

Almost no mass-market production car on the market these days is a 'take
it or leave it' product; even the 'stock' Astra (currently the 1.6
Envoy) comes with an options list. Some of these a factory fit and are
incorporated into the vehicle at build; others are dealer fit and are
added by the dealer before delivery.

I'm not the one who brought this up, but every car will have a base model
where all you can specify is the colour etc without paying more. I assume
that's what Tat Chan meant by stock.

Do NAD provide a similar options list for each of their individual
models? I think not, you buy the amp you want directly from the
catalogue/dealer and you receive that model - NAD or the dealer don't
offer factory fit or dealer fit options to modify the product.

So you buy all your equipment without auditioning it first?

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Stimpy wrote:

It would, I suggest, be better to compare them to mass-market audio
separates from manufacturers along the lines of Rotel, NAD and
Marantz

You have to specify what you want with these - they're not a take it
or leave it package like your 'stock' Astra, etc.


This comment confuses me. Can you explain what you mean by "You have to
specify what you want with these" in relation to Rotel/NAD/Marantz kit?


Well, do you want CD? FM? DAB? Vinyl? Tape? MD? And what speakers? What
power for the amp etc? The list is pretty endless. And then there's the
cables.

Buy a music centre and you just plug it all in.


Almost no mass-market production car on the market these days is a 'take
it or leave it' product; even the 'stock' Astra (currently the 1.6
Envoy) comes with an options list. Some of these a factory fit and are
incorporated into the vehicle at build; others are dealer fit and are
added by the dealer before delivery.


I'm not the one who brought this up, but every car will have a base model
where all you can specify is the colour etc without paying more. I assume
that's what Tat Chan meant by stock.



perhaps I should have used a better choice of words. I really wasn't
refering to 'stock' as in 'base model with no frills.'

I should have stated "mass market car like Astra/Corolla/Pulsar"

sorry if this caused any confusion.

Anyway ... I know people who buy cars based on features and they don't
test drive them first (new cars anyway, you might be able to do a test
drive on a 2nd hand model). If you are buying an ex-govt or fleet car at
an auction, I doubt you would be able to do a test drive as well.


btw, your "I got a sweater for Christmas ..." sig was pretty funny, Dave.

Tat Chan wrote:

sorry if this caused any confusion.

Anyway ... I know people who buy cars based on features and they don't
test drive them first (new cars anyway, you might be able to do a test
drive on a 2nd hand model). If you are buying an ex-govt or fleet car
at an auction, I doubt you would be able to do a test drive as well.

In excess of 70% of BMW 7-series buyers don't test drive a car before
placing an order

"Stimpy" wrote in message
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Tat Chan wrote:

sorry if this caused any confusion.

Anyway ... I know people who buy cars based on features and they don't
test drive them first (new cars anyway, you might be able to do a test
drive on a 2nd hand model). If you are buying an ex-govt or fleet car
at an auction, I doubt you would be able to do a test drive as well.

In excess of 70% of BMW 7-series buyers don't test drive a car before
placing an order


:-)


(48% of all statistics are made up on the spot.......!!!)

Keith G wrote:

Anyway ... I know people who buy cars based on features and they
don't test drive them first (new cars anyway, you might be able to
do a test drive on a 2nd hand model). If you are buying an ex-govt
or fleet car at an auction, I doubt you would be able to do a test
drive as well.

In excess of 70% of BMW 7-series buyers don't test drive a car before
placing an order

(48% of all statistics are made up on the spot.......!!!)

:-) The 70% figure comes from BMW's own research

"Stimpy" wrote in message
...
Keith G wrote:

Anyway ... I know people who buy cars based on features and they
don't test drive them first (new cars anyway, you might be able to
do a test drive on a 2nd hand model). If you are buying an ex-govt
or fleet car at an auction, I doubt you would be able to do a test
drive as well.

In excess of 70% of BMW 7-series buyers don't test drive a car before
placing an order

(48% of all statistics are made up on the spot.......!!!)

:-) The 70% figure comes from BMW's own research


OK, see your point - better jack that up to 78% then.......

:-)

In the last two years I have bought two cars brand new costing a total of
£43k and did not test drive either!!
"Stimpy" wrote in message
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Tat Chan wrote:

sorry if this caused any confusion.

Anyway ... I know people who buy cars based on features and they don't
test drive them first (new cars anyway, you might be able to do a test
drive on a 2nd hand model). If you are buying an ex-govt or fleet car
at an auction, I doubt you would be able to do a test drive as well.

In excess of 70% of BMW 7-series buyers don't test drive a car before
placing an order