"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 14:39:19 +0100, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of 'stock' as applied to
cars?

A stock car is something entirely different!

As regards racing, perhaps. In normal car speak in the UK it is used
to indicate a 'base' or 'poverty' model, although it's not much used
these days. And that's obviously what I took the OP to mean by it.

********, I've been buying cars for forty years


ditto (had about or just over a 100 different ones myself now...)


and I've *never* heard
*anyone* refer to a base model as a 'stock' model.


neither have I - 'base' or 'basic' model only...



That's usually referred to as the 'base' model. In all (?) the
dealerships
I worked in, 'stock' referred to the vehicles we had 'in stock' or 'on
the
board' at that moment.

In the US, 'stock' refers to an unmodified car


In the UK a 'stock car' is one made for racing - similar to (but probably
not the same as) 'banger racing'.

I ground Barry Ansell's valves in for him when I was a schoolkid (so that's
pre 1964, when I left/escaped) and he went on to become World Champion that
year and a friend of mine had is arm ripped off at the shoulder, stock car
racing....

(End of 'stock car' anecdotes and *all* interest in the subject.....)

In article ,
Keith G wrote:
In the UK a 'stock car' is one made for racing - similar to (but probably
not the same as) 'banger racing'.

It's a term which came from the US - but meant 'standard' salons rather
than those made for racing. Just why it came to mean the crash bang wallop
banger type racing in this country, I've no idea.

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On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 20:21:14 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Keith G wrote:
In the UK a 'stock car' is one made for racing - similar to (but probably
not the same as) 'banger racing'.

It's a term which came from the US - but meant 'standard' salons rather
than those made for racing.

Shurely a standard salon is where you can just get an ordinary
haircut?

Just why it came to mean the crash bang wallop
banger type racing in this country, I've no idea.

Have you ever seen an American stock car race?.............
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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 19:26:57 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 14:39:19 +0100, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of 'stock' as applied to
cars?

A stock car is something entirely different!

As regards racing, perhaps. In normal car speak in the UK it is used
to indicate a 'base' or 'poverty' model, although it's not much used
these days. And that's obviously what I took the OP to mean by it.

********, I've been buying cars for forty years

ditto (had about or just over a 100 different ones myself now...)

Jeez - you must have bought a load of **** cars - I'm only on
thirty-two between me and SWMBO.

I ground Barry Ansell's valves in for him when I was a schoolkid (so that's
pre 1964, when I left/escaped)

What, you can regrind 300Bs? Koool................. :-)
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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote


********, I've been buying cars for forty years

ditto (had about or just over a 100 different ones myself now...)

Jeez - you must have bought a load of **** cars


No, only the one Audi.... ;-)

Here's an early scan from a 35mm slide (pre digital cameras) of 3 of the 5
cars I had at the time (my record for my 'own' cars at any one time - I've
probably 'owned' 2 dozen cars at a single time, but who fekkin' cares about
cars and who was counting anyway?)

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keith_g/show/Cars01.jpg

See if you can identify *any* of them - the 'red' car was featured in a
magazine as it was the only one in the country at the time (in red, that is
and the Reg. No. was KG6545.... ;-)

(Ignore the vans and crap next door - it was a smallholding and the bloke
next door was trying to be a farmer and almost succeeding....)


- I'm only on
thirty-two between me and SWMBO.


You're not trying hard enough!

On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 03:15:32 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote

********, I've been buying cars for forty years

ditto (had about or just over a 100 different ones myself now...)

Jeez - you must have bought a load of **** cars

No, only the one Audi.... ;-)

Ah, I'm on my fourth one of those now, and the memsahib's thinking
about buying another one. 'Course, I'd rather she bought a Honda for
me to play with, but them's the breaks!

Here's an early scan from a 35mm slide (pre digital cameras) of 3 of the 5
cars I had at the time (my record for my 'own' cars at any one time - I've
probably 'owned' 2 dozen cars at a single time, but who fekkin' cares about
cars and who was counting anyway?)

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keith_g/show/Cars01.jpg

See if you can identify *any* of them - the 'red' car was featured in a
magazine as it was the only one in the country at the time (in red, that is
and the Reg. No. was KG6545.... ;-)

It's an RX7 Turbo II, but I wouldn't have thought it was unique. The
middle one looks like an old Landy of some sort, but I'm not sure
about the little one hiding behind it. Could be an old Daihatsu
FourTrak, or an early Suzy.

(Ignore the vans and crap next door - it was a smallholding and the bloke
next door was trying to be a farmer and almost succeeding....)

But the Allegro is a classic of British engineering!

- I'm only on
thirty-two between me and SWMBO.

You're not trying hard enough!

Funny, she says I'm extremely trying........
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Hi,

In message , Stewart
Pinkerton writes

It's an RX7 Turbo II, but I wouldn't have thought it was unique. The
middle one looks like an old Landy of some sort, but I'm not sure
about the little one hiding behind it. Could be an old Daihatsu
FourTrak, or an early Suzy.

I got as far as RX7, but there's no way I would have known it was a II.


(Ignore the vans and crap next door - it was a smallholding and the bloke
next door was trying to be a farmer and almost succeeding....)

But the Allegro is a classic of British engineering!

The revered Rustin Allaggro. I once had to pump three gallons of water
out of the petrol tank of one of those. To this day, I have no idea how
it got there. I was running a mobile disco using a 1750 Austin Maxi as a
'van' about then (1983?). It was a horrible piece of junk, but it just
wouldn't die, despite all my friends learning to drive in it.

--
Regards,
Glenn Booth

"Glenn Booth" wrote


The revered Rustin Allaggro. I once had to pump three gallons of water
out of the petrol tank of one of those. To this day, I have no idea how
it got there. I was running a mobile disco using a 1750 Austin Maxi as a
'van' about then (1983?). It was a horrible piece of junk, but it just
wouldn't die, despite all my friends learning to drive in it.


I'm surprised to hear that - I always thought the Maxi was ****e-looking but
quite 'useable'.

There used to be a load of speed bumps in this road (on an Industrial
Estate, near the Bedford Truck factory in Dunstable) which were very big -
an 'up and over you go' kinda thing. However, if you floored this (brand
new) Maxi and took them all at DEAD ON 60 (I think it was) the car stayed
level and steady as a rock and the speed bumps just went 'whadap, whadap,
whadap' underneath!!

Great crack - scared any passengers to death and got you past dozens of
other cars doing the 'rock and roll' thing! :-)

(Another company car, you see.... ;-)

Hi,

In message , Keith G
writes

"Glenn Booth" wrote


The revered Rustin Allaggro. I once had to pump three gallons of water
out of the petrol tank of one of those. To this day, I have no idea how
it got there. I was running a mobile disco using a 1750 Austin Maxi as a
'van' about then (1983?). It was a horrible piece of junk, but it just
wouldn't die, despite all my friends learning to drive in it.


I'm surprised to hear that - I always thought the Maxi was ****e-looking but
quite 'useable'.

Oh it was definitely usable - my old man used it as a butcher's van for
five years, he taught all my mates to drive in it, and I used it to tow
DJ equipment around for ages. It was a workhorse. However, the speedo
didn't work, ever, from the day it was new, the paint fell off in lumps
and it had a nasty habit of blowing fuses for no apparent reason.

....And it was definitely ****e-looking :-)

There used to be a load of speed bumps in this road (on an Industrial
Estate, near the Bedford Truck factory in Dunstable) which were very big -
an 'up and over you go' kinda thing. However, if you floored this (brand
new) Maxi and took them all at DEAD ON 60 (I think it was) the car stayed
level and steady as a rock and the speed bumps just went 'whadap, whadap,
whadap' underneath!!

I can believe it. I gave my old man's Maxi a real hard time on a lot of
bumpy country lanes around the coast in South Wales and it never missed
a beat. The 'horrible piece of junk' comment was just the subjective
view of a (then) 17 year old. It's easier to 'pull' in a hearse than it
is in a Maxi (but that's another story...)

--
Regards,
Glenn Booth

On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 13:44:58 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Glenn Booth" wrote


The revered Rustin Allaggro. I once had to pump three gallons of water
out of the petrol tank of one of those. To this day, I have no idea how
it got there. I was running a mobile disco using a 1750 Austin Maxi as a
'van' about then (1983?). It was a horrible piece of junk, but it just
wouldn't die, despite all my friends learning to drive in it.


I'm surprised to hear that - I always thought the Maxi was ****e-looking but
quite 'useable'.

There used to be a load of speed bumps in this road (on an Industrial
Estate, near the Bedford Truck factory in Dunstable) which were very big -
an 'up and over you go' kinda thing. However, if you floored this (brand
new) Maxi and took them all at DEAD ON 60 (I think it was) the car stayed
level and steady as a rock and the speed bumps just went 'whadap, whadap,
whadap' underneath!!

Great crack - scared any passengers to death and got you past dozens of
other cars doing the 'rock and roll' thing! :-)

(Another company car, you see.... ;-)

Yup, this works on any car with adequate wheel travel - try it with a
Scooby at 90 and *really* scare the crap out of your passengers!
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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering