Ooooooh, the stench. The fetor from Michigan is overwhelming! God only
knows what Krooger is up to in his hovel today. The place must be over
****ing flowing with waste products of all kinds, including you-know-what.

My recollection is that Middius was invited onto RAO by Steve Zipser

Did an angel tell you that, Turdy? My recollection is you were arrested for
child abuse but allowed to plead down and avoid prison.

Or, he might have been just a renamed sockpupppet. He is working under an
alias, as last time I looked there was no trace of George Middius or any
person named Middius in the real world. To his credit, he doesn't deny that
he is a sockpuppet.

And notably, you haven't denied that you are a 180-lb pile of turds that,
through a miracle of unknown origin, is able to operate a computer and
broadcast your paranoia and other mental infirmities throughout cyberspace.

At any rate he has mounted a vigorous campaign to smear people like
Nousaine, Ferstler, and myself. He uses a combination of private email and
phone calls to program his converts.

You're still fantasizing about me, aren't you. Allow me to feed your
paranoia.... Yes, I am great and powerful. I have commanded people with a
vested interest in the audio industry, such as Paul Bamborough, Glenn
Zelniker, and John Atkinson, to take time away from their businesses in
order to discredit the lowly Krooborg on Usenet. And these people have done
my bidding, for I am lord of all I survey, and they are terrified of
defying me.

However, once he gets them programmed,
they seem to be able to go into autonomous mode.

Or perhaps you have that backwards.... Then again, you do a lot of things
backwards, don't you? You put on a raincoat before hopping on a hooker. You
molest your children after they die. You write a check for the doctor bill
and then put your stool sample right on the check. You get thrown out of
your church because of accusations of pedophilia and collecting kiddie
porn, then you tell the world the accusations are true.

The good news is that for
some odd reason, most of his programees never stray from RAO.

Do you remember your previous conspiracy theories, Turdy? In the past, the
mastermind was always Lord Atkinson. Are you telling us all those crazy
rants were lies? Why did you tell dozens of lies about John Atkinson?

normanstrong wrote:

But there are occasions when top
posting ......... enables me to get my point
across before the reader even knows what's in the original post.

Why would you feel the need to do that ?


Graham

Arny Krueger wrote:

We did some investigations of high end CD/DVD players a few weeks ago, and
found that common high end practice seems to be to assemble the drive and
circuit boards from mid-fi machines into a nice looking case, maybe add a
gratuitous output buffer board, jack the price up by a factor of about 20,
and let the fun begin.

Sounds about right to me.

There's only so much that you can actually realistically spend on the
component items even when you are using the best currently available.

For example the DACs in a CD player ( surely one of the most critical items )
will only come from a limited number of specialist manufacturers whose
products have to be priced to suit the larger consumer market. The cost of
developing ICs is so high that no-one is going to develop specially just for
boutique hi-fi.

I would cvertainly expect such equipment to use the very best standards of
circuit design to extract the ultimate performance from its components and
maybe a smattering of novel circuit design, but in truth, there is only so
much you can do these days with modern highly integrated solutions. It's not
like you can re-invent the audio path.


Graham

As usual, no substance, only the usual abuse.

Purposefully top-posted.

Too bad.

Mark Z.

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"George M. Middius" wrote in message
...


Mark D. Zacharias said:

[snip garbaged-up line breaks]

You're being dumb on so many levels that I'll just observe I've
corrected your lame top-posted response, and leave you to ponder your
own MVP error average.

Please reply
[blah blah blah]

Do you have ADD or some other condition?


BTW I prefer top-posting.

That explains a lot. You can't figure out obvious, commonplace stuff, you
rant and rave in non sequiturs, and you like top-posting. You probably
walk around with your underwear showing and your shoes untied.

Typical. No substance.

Mark Z.

--
Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and spam
have rendered my regular e-mail address useless.


"George M. Middius" wrote in message
...


Ooooooh, the stench. The fetor from Michigan is overwhelming! God only
knows what Krooger is up to in his hovel today. The place must be over
****ing flowing with waste products of all kinds, including you-know-what.

My recollection is that Middius was invited onto RAO by Steve Zipser

Did an angel tell you that, Turdy? My recollection is you were arrested
for
child abuse but allowed to plead down and avoid prison.

Or, he might have been just a renamed sockpupppet. He is working under
an
alias, as last time I looked there was no trace of George Middius or any
person named Middius in the real world. To his credit, he doesn't deny
that
he is a sockpuppet.

And notably, you haven't denied that you are a 180-lb pile of turds that,
through a miracle of unknown origin, is able to operate a computer and
broadcast your paranoia and other mental infirmities throughout
cyberspace.

At any rate he has mounted a vigorous campaign to smear people like
Nousaine, Ferstler, and myself. He uses a combination of private email
and
phone calls to program his converts.

You're still fantasizing about me, aren't you. Allow me to feed your
paranoia.... Yes, I am great and powerful. I have commanded people with a
vested interest in the audio industry, such as Paul Bamborough, Glenn
Zelniker, and John Atkinson, to take time away from their businesses in
order to discredit the lowly Krooborg on Usenet. And these people have
done
my bidding, for I am lord of all I survey, and they are terrified of
defying me.

However, once he gets them programmed,
they seem to be able to go into autonomous mode.

Or perhaps you have that backwards.... Then again, you do a lot of things
backwards, don't you? You put on a raincoat before hopping on a hooker.
You
molest your children after they die. You write a check for the doctor bill
and then put your stool sample right on the check. You get thrown out of
your church because of accusations of pedophilia and collecting kiddie
porn, then you tell the world the accusations are true.

The good news is that for
some odd reason, most of his programees never stray from RAO.

Do you remember your previous conspiracy theories, Turdy? In the past, the
mastermind was always Lord Atkinson. Are you telling us all those crazy
rants were lies? Why did you tell dozens of lies about John Atkinson?

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

We did some investigations of high end CD/DVD players a few weeks ago, and
found that common high end practice seems to be to assemble the drive and
circuit boards from mid-fi machines into a nice looking case, maybe add a
gratuitous output buffer board, jack the price up by a factor of about 20,
and let the fun begin.



What 'we'? You and your teenage trainees?

"Clyde Slick" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

We did some investigations of high end CD/DVD players a few weeks
ago, and found that common high end practice seems to be to assemble
the drive and circuit boards from mid-fi machines into a nice
looking case, maybe add a gratuitous output buffer board, jack the
price up by a factor of about 20, and let the fun begin.



What 'we'? You and your teenage trainees?

Deep, very deep Art.

On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 16:52:56 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Arny Krueger
writes
"Pooh Bear" wrote in message

Heinz Kiosk wrote:

Why, therefore, would any consumer pay more than this
for a home CD replay system. eg From memory the Linn CD12 retails
for around £12,000 and presumably the people who buy it are happy
with the value-for-money when they listen to the music.

Ppl that have the kind of money to spend on kit like that have to
spend it on something I guess !

I suppose you're buying into the 'dream' as extolled by clever
marketing.

No doubt the CD12 is well engineered - but really !

We did some investigations of high end CD/DVD players a few weeks ago, and
found that common high end practice seems to be to assemble the drive and
circuit boards from mid-fi machines into a nice looking case, maybe add a
gratuitous output buffer board, jack the price up by a factor of about 20,
and let the fun begin.



Now that...I could believe!.......

You'd better believe it! Deep inside the beautiful alloy casing of the
Mark Levinson 'Reference' transport at some $15,000, you'll find
exactly the same Philips industrial transport mech (and associated
electronics) as is used in the jukebox at your local pub.......

--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Yes it is.


"normanstrong" wrote in message
news:NmrTc.250823$a24.125207@attbi_s03...

"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
...

"Mark D. Zacharias" wrote in message
...

"George M. Middius" wrote in message
...


Mark D. Zacharias Shelleyed:

I can only guess what you mean by "ad hominum". You've
already shown
you love to distort language beyond recognition (using
"tweaking"
for
"lying"). Does it have anything to do with your mother?

I'd be surprised if you really don't know the common usage of
"ad
hominum"
(it's used all the time in these groups) but just in case,
it's Latin
for
"to the man" which means, obviously, a personal attack.

You're being dumb on so many levels that I'll just observe I've
corrected your lame top-posted response, and leave you to ponder
your
own MVP error average.



Please reply with evidence of the last time you ever fixed a
broken piece
of
electronic equipment, other than just dumb luck, and/or the last
time you
actually helped someone having a technical problem, other than
just dumb
luck.

Have you any technical qualifications at all? If so, then why do
we never
see any evidence of same?

BTW I prefer top-posting. **** off if you don't like it.


Mark Z.



Top posting is annoying.
Bottom posting is about the only thing that
everyone seems to agree on around here, be they
objectivist or subjectivist, music lover or
technocrat.

I don't agree. I choose whichever position seems most appropriate.
Usually this turns out to be bottom. But there are occasions when top
posting seems to clarify things a bit, or enables me to get my point
across before the reader even knows what's in the original post. In
any event, it's not a BIG DEAL.

Norm Strong

On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 15:20:25 -0400, George M. Middius
wrote:

You're still fantasizing about me, aren't you. Allow me to feed your
paranoia.... Yes, I am great and powerful. I have commanded people with a
vested interest in the audio industry, such as Paul Bamborough, Glenn
Zelniker, and John Atkinson, to take time away from their businesses in
order to discredit the lowly Krooborg on Usenet. And these people have done
my bidding, for I am lord of all I survey, and they are terrified of
defying me.

Actually no, you're just a sad little crip, but Jesus loves you.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering