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Keith G November 12th 04 07:59 PM

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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 18:35:02 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Yes, real macho man, aren't you dearie? And so brave, to carefully
stand well clear of the poor girl so wifie wouldn't ask awkward
questions about the piccie. Pathetic.


Isnt it more likely she gave up and left in disgust?


That does seem a reasonable scenario, perhaps it explains the macho
posing, bitterness and spite?



Now that *is* weird - I'm looking over Pinkypoof's shoulder (not binned
while I have a bit of fun with him) at the little Molton Larva who *is*
binned!!

:-)

How's it going Molton? - Slashed anybody to the ground with your rapier wit
lately?? :-)

(Hmmm, how will I see his reply...???)

Ya hafta fekkin' larf!

:-))






Arny Krueger November 12th 04 08:00 PM

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"Ian Molton" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Ian Molton" wrote in message


Arny Krueger wrote:


I've seen masks for one chip that were wall-sized.

what was the feature size on the mask ?



A few times the width of an ordinary drafting pen.

I think that was the point - at the time they were just plotting
these out on standard drafting plotters.


IOW the tolerances werent really any better than a good mechanical
watch (on the mask).


Yes, but they shrunk the mask from about 6 foot on a side down to maybe 1/4
of an inch on a side - that's 288 times. The features were several pen
line's width, but their location was within 1/1000 or so on the mask, and
1/288 of that on the chip. IME absolute locations within 1/10,000 of an
inch are hard to maintain during the manufacture of mechanical parts
(finishes can be smoother than that), but the IC's features were being
etched with tolerances on the order of 4 millionths of an inch.

I suppose the alignment mechanisms for the die would be far better
quality than the mechs in the watch but I suppose its a question of
how far back in the process you want to go ;-)


While the step-and-repeat process is not as precise as the relative
locations on each chip, its the relative locations on the chips that matter.



Keith G November 12th 04 08:40 PM

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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote


(Know much about 'repressed homosexuality' do you...??)


As noted elsewhere, my first study was psy, not electronics. Oh yes,
dearie, your basic psyche is no surprise..............



Hmm, kinda sums you up dunnit - an 'electronics expert' from a bit of
Googling and a 'psychoanalyst' who can work from a few ng posts??

(It's called bull****ting on an *epic* scale, isn't it? :-)


'Dearie' again? :-)


You seem to have a natural affinity with that tag.



Well, it's quite clear that you do.....


Shotgun wise, who cares who makes 'em, if
they have their barrels stacked the wrong way? Now, if you were to put
up a pair of Purdeys or H&Hs, that would be different! :-)


Typical prattling of a truly clueless **** who's been Googling again....


My father left me a pair of damascus-barelled Purdeys, but I've always
preferred H&H. Such is life.




Pinkypoof, you should be world-famous if only a *fraction* of your bull****
was true. How come you got nothing better to do than spend all your free
time in here?



(But that's so *you* isn't it ? - Know it all, but know absolutely
*****-all* when it really comes down to it.....)

Bit like you with hi-fi, eh dearie?


'Dearie' again? :-)


Seems to suit you so well, doesn't it?



I was told I've got nice hands once.... :-)


I've got a record for you (cleaned it and played it a few nights ago) -
The
Desert Song. (You'd like it, it's 'camp as coffee'.... :-)


I do admit to a liking for Fry's Turkish Delight, but Valentino was
quite magnificently hamming it up.



Hamming or ramming?

(What was your 'weekend name' again Pinkers, old thing?)


Nice... :-)


Near Cannes, isn't it?



No idea - I always thought they were biscuits...



Not so much as you appear to be, dearie. Thought I was 'binned'?



I'm giving you a break.



So why were you so worried, dearie?



OK, you want the sordids - I was already separated when that pic was taken,
I didn't want my missus (still married but still separated) to be hurt by an
accidental viewing of that pic which, fortunately, never happened. OK?



I spent the early part of the '80s
working mostly in Arizona with Hughes Aircraft, the latter part of the
'80s working all over this country in engineering consultancy with
PERA, then spent most of the '90s 'doing it' in Ontario, Texas and
Massachusetts with my own consultancy firm.


Oh, that's a bugger - wheels fell off or summat? (Not surprised if you
were
trying to cover Ontario, Texas and Massachusetts, I'd have thought the
travel costs *alone* would guarantee failure....?? :-)


I wasn't paying them, you moron.



You think not? No wonder you didn't last....



Actually, it would help if I could count. It's six weeks. You of
course mean vegetating, and whining in front of your keyboard all day,
not '52 weeks holiday'.



The keyboards central here - I get to flop down at it any time I want. ;-)

(Love the way you keep trying to wipe the 'whining' bogey off.... ;-)


Good use? Last time you went away you sat around like an overcooked prawn,
sweating your tits off wondering why TF you had bothered, didn't you?


Nope, I travelled all over Crete, chatting to the locals and soaking
in one of the world's oldest cultures, and made a couple of really
nice new friends. Don't much care for the way they cook snails,
though.



Don't **** me Pinkypoof, last time I was in Crete we stayed at the top hotel
in Ag Nick which was its own peninsula, where the current incumbent (another
one) was swimming off the private beach (read broken slabs of concrete) and
saw a turd bobbing along in front of her. The interior was tossed out worse
than a WW2 Italian village after the Germans had left and the locals were
more interested in flogging tablecloths, blue pottery and the greasiest
fried eggs in the Northern Hemisphere than any deep and meaningful
existentialist dialogue. Bought the missus (the real one) a nice embroidered
tablecloth - it was the high spot of the holiday.



Not as bleak as *your* pathetic existence, obviously..............



I reckon I have more laffs in a week than you do in a decade and I get to do
whatever I want, whenever I want and *you* reckon that's bleak?

I think you need to get your head fixed, Pinkypoof, before it gets beyond
economic repair....

On that subject - tonight's viewing (80" screen, full s/s): Secret Window
and/or Wisconsin Death Trip (??? any idea WTF that's all about - I didn't
choose either of them....)


Now, Sad *******, admit it - you'd rather I replied to you than ignored
you,
wouldn't you?

(See what I mean - saddest **** on the group - he's been binned, knows it
and *still* continues to answer my posts!! How freakin' pathetic is that?
:-)


It's not pathetic at all, when comparde with the guy who claims I've
been 'binned', but leaps up screaming every time I call his bull****
for what it is! :-)



Cut the crap - is that a 'Yes, I'd rather you replied to me than ignored my
posts' or not then, Sad *******?



You really do have to feckin' chuckle.................



Oh, yesss... ;-)

Never a truer word wuz spoke by you!!

Ya *do* hafta fekkin' larf !!!

:-))





Fleetie November 12th 04 09:12 PM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale Diamond II's
 
Too much /ad hominem/ IMO. Usual uk.r.a. story.


Martin
--
M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890
Manchester, U.K. http://www.fleetie.demon.co.uk



Tat Chan November 12th 04 11:53 PM

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Tat Chan wrote:

I am sure you will have studied physics, name me one case where
perception does reflect exactly what is actually going on ?



Like a wheel looking like it is spinning backwards once the frequency of
rotation goes past a certain threshold?



That's purely shutter effect. And doesn't reflect what is actually going
on.


which was the point of my example.

Tat Chan November 13th 04 12:01 AM

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Stewart Pinkerton wrote:


Ah, so you didn't read my CV?


not unless one had a news server that accepted binary attachments

I spent the early part of the '80s
working mostly in Arizona with Hughes Aircraft,


wouldn't you have required a security clearance for that, or at the very least
be an American citizen?

BAE systems over here requires its staff to be citizens.


Dave Plowman (News) November 13th 04 01:06 AM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale Diamond II's
 
In article ,
Paul Dormer wrote:
Would these be your preferred choice of firearm for crusing round
Manchester with? ;-)


Think you'd need a different weapon for cruising Canal Street.

--
*Why is the man who invests all your money called a broker? *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Stewart Pinkerton November 13th 04 06:41 AM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale Diamond II's
 
On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 02:55:00 +0000, Paul Dormer
wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" emitted :

Think you've missed the point. No one gets shot down in flames for saying
they prefer the sound of a valve amp


Bzzzzt! No, I've not *missed* the point. The original point has been
sidetracked, but still stands..

Here it is again...

SP :
You are the guys who get all '****ed off' when the obvious failings
of valve amps (and the bull**** you claim for them) are pointed out.


Moi :
Your numerous mechanical watches are less accurate than a £1.99
digital watch which can be had from any market stall. End of.


The fact is Pinkieton has an axe to grind with people who appreciate
valve amps, such that he needs to repeatedly point out the "obvious
failings" of the technology, whilst at the same time he indulges
himself with cupboards brimming with watches with "obvious failings"


And as noted, I'm happy to acknowledge those obvious failings, and
even to discuss how they may be minimised (the new Daniels co-axial
escapement, for example). *That* is the difference.

--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton November 13th 04 06:41 AM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale Diamond II's
 
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 21:40:40 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote


Nope, I travelled all over Crete, chatting to the locals and soaking
in one of the world's oldest cultures, and made a couple of really
nice new friends. Don't much care for the way they cook snails,
though.


Don't **** me Pinkypoof, last time I was in Crete we stayed at the top hotel
in Ag Nick which was its own peninsula, where the current incumbent (another
one) was swimming off the private beach (read broken slabs of concrete) and
saw a turd bobbing along in front of her. The interior was tossed out worse
than a WW2 Italian village after the Germans had left and the locals were
more interested in flogging tablecloths, blue pottery and the greasiest
fried eggs in the Northern Hemisphere than any deep and meaningful
existentialist dialogue. Bought the missus (the real one) a nice embroidered
tablecloth - it was the high spot of the holiday.


Noted that women can't stand your company very long (do they suspect
that you're not really interested in them)? Also, typical that a ****
like you would stop in a tourist trap and judge everything by your own
Essex-chav standards.

Not as bleak as *your* pathetic existence, obviously..............


I reckon I have more laffs in a week than you do in a decade and I get to do
whatever I want, whenever I want and *you* reckon that's bleak?


So do I, dearie, and I'll lay an egg to an elephant that I've been
more places and done more things than a tired old-ex-trucker like you
ever has.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Nick Gorham November 13th 04 08:33 AM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale DiamondII's
 
Tat Chan wrote:
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:


Ah, so you didn't read my CV?



not unless one had a news server that accepted binary attachments

I spent the early part of the '80s
working mostly in Arizona with Hughes Aircraft,



wouldn't you have required a security clearance for that, or at the very
least be an American citizen?

BAE systems over here requires its staff to be citizens.


Maybe not, we did presses for General Dynamics and McAir around that
time, and when we went over for the final commisioning there was no
problem. And that was where they were building (at least F16/18's).

--
Nick


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