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Tat Chan November 20th 04 12:46 AM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale DiamondII's
 
John Phillips wrote:

In article , Stewart
Pinkerton wrote:

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:30:57 +1100, Tat Chan
wrote:

and rich Asians (oh, all right, since this is a UK newsgroup, I meant
Orientals) ... apparently Hong Kong has an unbelievable number of Rolex
dealers for a place that small. Perhaps the worlds largest ratio of
square kilometres to Rolex dealers?


True, I'd forgotten good old Nathan Street! :-)



The last time I walked down Nathan Street (8 years ago) the overt fake
vendors probably outnumbered the genuine ones. Periodically I got
accosted by the ambulatory street vendors with the question "copywatch?"


wouldn't the genuine vendors be in air conditioned shops with a security guard
wielding a shotgun parked outside? Unless the fake vendors have upped their game
and moved from the street into posh premises ...


I ate in a restaurant on Lantau Island called "the Hilton" (no connection,
you understand).


And how was it?

Mmmm ... speaking of Chinese food, I'll be going for dim sum tomorrow. Can't
wait for the chicken feet in a spicy bean sauce, honeycomb tripe with offal and
white radish braised in a light soy broth with start anise!


I also remember the medical shops in Nathan Street whose windows displayed
jars containing items a wise man would not enquire about.


Ah, but it should be fairly common knowledge to the locals!

Tat Chan November 20th 04 12:50 AM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale DiamondII's
 
Andy Evans wrote:

It is quite possible that we are seeing an "economies of scale" if these things
are selling fast enough within China itself.

Interesting point - I wonder how well they sell internally.


Slight OT. No idea about how they sell in China, but I can tell you about other
parts of Asia.

And I wonder what
the motivation is to buy them inside China - the sound, or the 'retro' look and
style becoming a new chic (as it has in those parts)? If it's the sound, the
sales should endure. If it's the retro-chic, it may be a passing fancy and in
time may go.


No, it is about the sound. The newly cashed audio buyers over there like the
valve sound.

And they believe in the usual audio mag stuff as well ... interconnects/cables
sounding different, valve amps sounding more likelike than SS, vinyl has
infinite resolution and digital still has a long way to go to match vinyl, power
cords, etc.


Tat Chan November 20th 04 12:57 AM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale DiamondII's
 
Keith G wrote:

Reading the comix gives me the impression that the Chinese home market (big
on AV and buying Yamaha kit by the boatload, apparently) likes 'valves with
everything' when it comes to audio gear....???? :-)


I don't have the source for this, but I read this a few years back about this
Chinese guy, his hi-fi and his 2 wives.

He ended up buying 3 houses ...

2 for the wives

and the other for his hi-fi gear ...




Two screen captures from 'Infernal Affairs' (a Kung Foo movie??):


surely you jest? You have seen the movie, haven't you?
It is a police/crime movie!


http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...laffairs01.jpg

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...laffairs02.jpg

(Says it all really!! ;-)


I have the DVD on my shelf, haven't got around to seeing it. Hopefully there
will be a shoot out in the hi-fi shop and all the glass from them tubes will go
all over the shop ...

;)

Tat Chan November 20th 04 02:42 AM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale DiamondII's
 
Trevor Wilson wrote:

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:33:29 GMT, "Trevor Wilson"
wrote:


**Perhaps. I am not aware of the status of the Welsh in Pommy society.


Rural yokels and sheep-shaggers. Sound familiar? :-)



**Sure does. I last visited NZ in 1979 (I recall the disbelief at the
announcement of Elvis' death - we thought it was a sick Kiwi joke) for a
skiing holiday. The slow drivers, the incredibly narrow roads, the single
lane bridges (on major highways), the 'black ice' all contributed to the
charm. It felt like we had just stepped back 30 years.


Hmmm, so that was what Queenstown was like in those days. ;)

I was in NZ for a ski trip in the late 90s, and I didn't experience anything
like what you did. The snow was great, and bus journey was great (possibly
helped by the 3 litres of duty free alcohol one can bring into NZ).

John Phillips November 20th 04 07:16 AM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale Diamond II's
 
In article , Tat Chan wrote:
John Phillips wrote:
I ate in a restaurant on Lantau Island called "the Hilton" (no connection,
you understand).


And how was it?


Superb - it was the first time I had abalone that tasted more of seafood
than shoeleather. In fact that whole trip provided great eating
(including the two kosher restaurants my Jewish colleague insisted,
naturally, on trying).

--
John Phillips

Andy Evans November 20th 04 07:49 AM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale Diamond
 
And they believe in the usual audio mag stuff as well ... interconnects/cables
sounding different, valve amps sounding more likelike than SS, vinyl has
infinite resolution and digital still has a long way to go to match vinyl,
power
cords, etc.

But would they ban fox-hunting?

=== Andy Evans ===
Visit our Website:- http://www.artsandmedia.com
Audio, music and health pages and interesting links.

Stewart Pinkerton November 20th 04 07:55 AM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale Diamond II's
 
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 12:38:58 +1100, Tat Chan
wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:30:57 +1100, Tat Chan
wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 18:41:08 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:

I do have a Rolex GMT Master, but now that I've obtained a '50 year Edition' Omega
Seamaster GMT, I'll be selling it on.

right-o. Will ten quid do it?


A day for the next ten years? OK, you're on.

On second thought ...

(is that really how much they are worth? 10 * 365 * 10 = 36500 quid???)


Our old pal compound interest, the loan shark's best friend! :-)

(and Oriental yuppies tend to buy Tag watches as the first step up the
ladder of bling watches ...)


When they were just Heuer, they were good watches, now they're just
the 'sports' brand of LVMH, with Zenith doing the 'posh' styles.


Interesting. I always thought they were "Tag Heuer". Oh well, not that those
Oriental yuppies will know anyway.


Only since 1985. Previously they were Heuer, a family-owned firm since
1860, and the logo was the bottom half of the present TAG Heuer logo.
The merged company was bought over by LVMH (Louis Vitton Moet
Hennessy) in 1999, and is now reduced to being just a brand rather
than a true manufacture - although IIRC Heuer never did make complete
movements in-house, mostly buying in or adapting ETA/Valjoux
movements. Their best movements are now sourced from Zenith, another
victim of the 1999 expansion of the luxury goods LVMH group. As a
result of the LVMH takeover, the excellent 'Rainbow' range of sporty
Zeniths was discontinued, with only TAG Heuer being allowed to produce
sports watches, making the Rainbow Flyback chronograph something of a
collector's item.

A side issue is that a dispute arose between Rolex and LVMH, as the
highly fashionable Rolex Daytona chronograh actually used a Zenith El
Primero movement. The upshot was that Rolex were forced to rush an
in-house movement into production, so that there is great dispute
among Rolex collectors as to whether the previous model is superior
due to the use of the classic El Primero movement, or the new one is
better because it is a 'pure' Rolex, Rolex being one of the very last
of the classic Swiss brands to remain independent.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Chris Morriss November 20th 04 09:26 AM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale Diamond II's
 
In message , Keith G
writes

"Chris Morriss" wrote in message
...
In message , Keith G
writes
OK, found this 'less' laying on the table after I had posted that....





(Pedant mode on)

Only hens 'lay' on tables. Perhaps you found it lying on the table? Why
is it that all these estuary-English speakers don't know the difference
between the two verbs?

(Pedant mode off)
--
Chris Morriss




Oh dear, what a ****.

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6 entries found for laying.

lay4 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (l)

v. Past tense of lie

snip


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12 entries found for lying.


lie 1 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (l)

intr.v. lay, (l) lain, (ln) ly·ing, (lng) lies


2.. To be placed on or supported by a surface that is usually
horizontal: Dirty dishes lay on the table. See Usage Note at lay 1.

-----------------------------------------


Being wrong won't necessarily get you in my ****bin.....

Being a **** won't necessarily get you in my ****bin......

Being a **** who's wrong won't necessarily get you in my
****bin.....

Being rude won't necessarily get you in my ****bin.....

Being a rude **** who's wrong *will* get you in my ****bin,
however.......

'Bye....



*plonk*


:-)


Why is it these pricks, who think they actually *know*something, manage to
get it so wrong and make themselves look such tits? (He could have read my
post elsewhere and seen my reference to my attendance at a 400 year old
Grammar School and spared himself the embarrassment.. ;-)




Careful Keith, you're REALLY showing your ignorance of English grammer
now. I suggest you stop digging!
--
Chris Morriss

Chris Morriss November 20th 04 09:34 AM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale Diamond II's
 
In message , Keith G
writes

"Chris Morriss" wrote in message
...
In message , Keith G
writes
OK, found this 'less' laying on the table after I had posted that....





(Pedant mode on)

Only hens 'lay' on tables. Perhaps you found it lying on the table?
Why is it that all these estuary-English speakers don't know the
difference between the two verbs?

(Pedant mode off)
--
Chris Morriss




Oh dear, what a ****.

-------------------------------------------
6 entries found for laying.

lay4 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (l)

v. Past tense of lie

snip


------------------------------------------

12 entries found for lying.


lie 1 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (l)

intr.v. lay, (l) lain, (ln) ly·ing, (lng) lies


2.. To be placed on or supported by a surface that is usually
horizontal: Dirty dishes lay on the table. See Usage Note at lay 1.

-----------------------------------------


Yes indeed, but that isn't what you said. The correct use in context
would indeed have been 'lying on the table'.

Through away your copy of 'Yob English for inhabitants of St Neots' and
get an English grammar. If you can read well enough (though it seems
unlikely) you'll find the correct distinctions in the use of the verb
'to lay' and 'to lie'.

I can of course see that the past tense of the verb 'to lie' (not used
in the sense of mendaciousness of course), having the spelling 'lay' can
indeed be confused by those of little learning with the verb 'to lay',
but sadly, in this as in the rest of life, ignorance is no real excuse.

Do you also confuse your and you're? I guess so.
--
Chris Morriss

Chris Morriss November 20th 04 09:57 AM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale Diamond II's
 
In message , Chris Morriss
writes
Through away



Oh dear oh dear, mea culpa, that's what spell checkers do for you.
Hopefully in advance of the torrent that will be directed against me, I
did of course mean THROW.

I shall go and lay down my head in shame now. (Note KG, the correct use
of 'lay' in context here).

--
Chris Morriss


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