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Radio 4 which is probably the only channel that hasn't gone downhill. AE

You must be new in this country. (eiron)

I am indeed - I'm welsh.

=== Andy Evans ===
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In article ,
James Perrett wrote:
Quarter and half inch analogue tape is still used as a mix format so it
is still possible to find vinyl that is pure analogue - although this
probably isn't the norm.

I'd say it's a rarity these days.

However, the main idea behind mixing to
analague tape is to obtain some of that tape compression effect that is
missing with digital.

Quite. Although you'd have thought someone would have produced a
compressor designed to give a similar effect where it's needed without the
other drawbacks.
It's rather a broad 'cure' for a specific requirement - stuffing the
entire mix through analogue tape.

--
*Hang in there, retirement is only thirty years away! *

Dave Plowman London SW
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In article ,
Eiron wrote:
Just compare R4 with fifteen or twenty years ago.
The comedy is crap,

I'd not agree. There are some very fine comedy shows on R4. Things like
Little Britain and Dead Ringers started on R4.

Still *far* better - as an average - than TV comedy, despite the smaller
budgets. The Andy Hamilton stuff stands out in particular.

--
*Never kick a cow pat on a hot day *

Dave Plowman London SW
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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 02:00:05 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:

"Tat Chan" wrote in message
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:

The 'parallels' between DAB/VHF and CD/LP are too obvious to ignore,
in
my book.....

Will you tell him how FM transmitters are fed, or shall I?

Would someone please pass on to whichever Binned Person wrote the above
silly little smartarse remark (like I don't bloody know*) that I don't
give
a FF what goes into producing/transmitting the music/audio I'm listening
to,
be it analogue or digital, ss or valve, fillet of a fenny snake, eye of
newt
and toe of frog, wool of bat and tongue of dog, adder's fork and
blind-worm's sting or lizard's leg & howlet's wing - I go with what I've
got, I'm an End User and, as such, I think the shortcomings of DAB, in
respect to VHF, mirror perfectly the shortcomings of CD in respect to
LP.....

That's because you're an idiot and aren't thinking at all - but we
knew that!



OK Pinky, credit given for correctly suspecting that I would 'check my nets'
this morning! (Unless you are replying to all my posts despite knowing that
you have been binned - in the manner of some blowhard grabbing the phone to
show off and throwing a few good, hard ****s into the dialling tone,
perhaps...?? :-)

Now, who's this 'we' again....???

(The 'Panel'...???)

(You and Professor Liebstraum...??)


All that's 'wrong' with DAB is that some stations use too much
'Optimod' compression and cut back too much on the bitrate - but many
FM stations mangle the sound in similar ways.


So?


At its best, DAB is
significantly superior to FM, but of course all *you* have *ever*
wanted to do, is scrabble about for any bit of extreme evidence you
can find to shore up your ignorant prejuduces.


Do you mean my *preferences*?

(I think you are the one whose 'prejudices' are showing here,
muchacho......)


Your final comment is of course just the usual idiocy of the Luddites.
Especially since bad DAB is even worse than vinyl, and in very obvious
ways that have nothing to do with digital/analogue.


Luddites? Scrute this one hard:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ow/twoamps.jpg

It's a 'crappy snappy' but you might be able to make out my Technics
ST-GT1000 DAB/FM tuner - which is under my, er, Pioneer DVD/MP3/CDP and
above my eBench DVD/MP3/CDP, which is above my Technics CDP, all of which
are above my two Technics ss amps (only one of which is partly visible).....

(Look hard at the extreme edge of that snap and you might also just be able
to make bits of the computer I use for 'digital audio'....)

Vinyl???

WTF has that got to do with it, or are you talking about vinyl replay being
broadcast on DAB transmissions????

(It ain't you I worry about Pinky - it's the groundswell of dim ****ers here
who can't, or don't want to, see that *you* are the one riddled with
obsessive, personal prejudices and can't bear to hear that others disagree
with your endless banging on about stuff you clearly don't appreciate or
understand.....)


Awaits usual guttersnipe outpouring by way of a reply....

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Keith G wrote:
I'm an End User and, as such, I think the shortcomings of DAB, in
respect to VHF, mirror perfectly the shortcomings of CD in respect to
LP.....

Glad to see your quest for knowledge is as active as ever.

Here's a couple of points.

All girls that are pupils of the High School wear green blazers.

All girls wearing green blazers are pupils of the High School.

Discuss.

--
*If horrific means to make horrible, does terrific mean to make terrible?


Yes - get an education.

Now let's see what you are wasting your 'little break in the fresh air' on?

Oh, I see - some loopy little exercise in bad logic which clearly indicates
that the need for a decent education is a little more pressing in your
case....

If you are going to try and use poor examples of 'logic' to make silly
little points, I suggest you use the 'All dogs eat meat/Abraham Lincoln ate
meat/ergo* Abraham Lincoln was a dog' chestnut - it's still flawed logic but
not as flawed as the *very* poor example you use above....


*Ergo? It's Latin and means 'thus' or 'therefore' (not 'consequently' as
Dictionary.com will have it)...

(Just for the thickies here who may have had a little 'job training' but
have no real clue in the outside world....)

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The news on Radio 4 is better than any television, and the interviewers are
getting really aggressive towards politicians. Nice!

=== Andy Evans ===
Visit our Website:- http://www.artsandmedia.com
Audio, music and health pages and interesting links.

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"Andy Evans" wrote in message
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[1] It's permanently set to Radio 3 - I've set up my programmable remote
with only a single "radio" button.

A while ago I would have done the same, but no longer. I don't mind the
jazz
and world music on radio 3


The Jazz is still good, the 'world music' is well on my tits these days.....


but some of the new trends make it impossible for me
to listen to for extended periods. Partly the personality-led stuff like
private passions which is plummy Brit at its worst,


Plummy BBC English is infintely preferable to the Eastenders 'Chavese' that
prevails everywhere today, IMO....

(and the silly dip****, girlyswot TV Presenters and Weather Forecasters - if
it were up to I, BBC Newsreaders would have to start wearing dinner jackets
and bow ties again..... :-)


but mainly the assumption
that we want to listen to early music all day, then more early music
programmes, then a few bits of early music as fillers then the same again
tomorrow. If I hear another medieval chant or countertenor I think I'll
throw
up,


As I will.......

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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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In article , Don Pearce
wrote:
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 17:57:15 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


The 'parallels' between DAB/VHF and CD/LP are too obvious to ignore, in
my book.....

;-)

Will you tell him how FM transmitters are fed, or shall I?

:-)

You do it. :-) I can then point out that the signal quality up here
improved a lot when they made the changes you have in mind... :-)

My understanding is that DAB has - in principle - the capability to work
very well indeed. The snag being that bean-counters have decided that
quantity counts for more than quality....



Did I not see: "So far I have carefully avoided listening to DAB." somewhere
recently....???

(I would be very sorry to see *you* clambering aboard the 'Bull****
Bandwagon' in here, Jimbo!! I always thought your comments and opinions were
based on the very best of empirical testing methods and first-hand, personal
experience....??)

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"Andy Evans" wrote in message
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The news on Radio 4 is better than any television, and the interviewers
are
getting really aggressive towards politicians. Nice!


Gotta disagree on this Andy - when I watch the news I'd prefer to see the
presentation of actual facts and I don't need some tit to be stood outside
of the Honolulu Hilton to be told it's just been done for selling dodgy
beefburgers or somesuch! I'm actually getting seriously fed up of the pokey
'Presenters' giving someone a hard time in a thinly-veiled attempt at
raising their own personal profile or creating some sort of contentious
'magazine content' for a 'TV programme' that seems to have to compete for
ratings like any other.....

(I particularly dislike the 'I'm sorry, that's all we've got time for'
cut-off they use when it starts to go ****-shaped on them!! ;-)

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"Andy Evans" wrote in message
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I have yet to hear much that I have liked from the world music programming.


I know what you mean. Some of it is rather primitive, but nonetheless
talked
about in hushed tones of reverence. "This is a clandestine tape recording
of
Afghan dog-calling music by the El' Shakti Abdullah brothers, one of a
long
line of dog-callers stretching back to the empire of Al'Haroum" etc. etc.
But at the same time it's great to hear some of the really good world
music -
stuff like Balkan Kola music - things that I've known and liked for years
finally surfacing.
Early music - on the other hand - gets the bum's rush almost at the first
note.
I resent the 'political' decision that I ought to like early music because
it's
authentic. As if Toscanini or Horowitz were not 'authentic' in their
musicality
and artistic sincerity. I like some period instrument stuff a lot -
Harnoncourt's Bach Cantatas, Goebel's Brandenburgs at 'tempi de Mickey
Mouse'.
I also dislike some of it - Rifkin's tedious one-to-a-part Bach - even
more.


:-)