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Keith G December 9th 04 04:53 PM

Amp swap disappointment
 

"Jim Lesurf" wrote


Not into 'Yello' then? ;-)


Not sure if it is the same, but there is an except from a group (?) called
'Yello' on a Graham Parsons test CD-A that I was listening to a couple of
days ago. Was listening as a friend had asked to borrow some test discs as
he is having problems with his (valve) amp and speakers, and I was
deciding
which discs might be most suitable for his use. Gave him the Parsons disc
to try this morning. The 'Yello' track (The Race IIRC) has what could
describe as some 'nice effects', but isn't the kind of material/recording
I'd normally listen to. No idea if this is who/what you were referring to,
though.




Yes, that's the same people (Boris Blank and Dieter Meier) but 'The Race'
(in all its incarnations) is not the best example of their stuff by a long
chalk, albeit the best known due to its unfailing inclusion on numerous,
silly TV programmes to do with cars.....






Keith G December 9th 04 04:57 PM

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"Jim Lesurf" wrote


IIRC DAB initially grew out of work aimed at moblie/portable reception.
For
that it may well be excellent. However the reports about it I have heard
are less than inviting.




The 'parallels' between DAB/VHF and CD/LP are too obvious to ignore, in my
book.....

;-)






Don Pearce December 9th 04 05:06 PM

Amp swap disappointment
 
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 17:57:15 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Jim Lesurf" wrote


IIRC DAB initially grew out of work aimed at moblie/portable reception.
For
that it may well be excellent. However the reports about it I have heard
are less than inviting.




The 'parallels' between DAB/VHF and CD/LP are too obvious to ignore, in my
book.....

;-)

Will you tell him how FM transmitters are fed, or shall I?

:-)

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Jim Lesurf December 9th 04 06:23 PM

Amp swap disappointment
 
In article , Don Pearce
wrote:
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 17:57:15 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:



The 'parallels' between DAB/VHF and CD/LP are too obvious to ignore, in
my book.....

;-)

Will you tell him how FM transmitters are fed, or shall I?


:-)


You do it. :-) I can then point out that the signal quality up here
improved a lot when they made the changes you have in mind... :-)

My understanding is that DAB has - in principle - the capability to work
very well indeed. The snag being that bean-counters have decided that
quantity counts for more than quality....

Slainte,

Jim

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Nick Gorham December 9th 04 06:27 PM

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Tat Chan wrote:
Nick Gorham wrote:

Tat Chan wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:


BTW, the only way Microsoft will ever make a product that does *not*
suck, is if they buy out Dyson......................



Windows 2000 is/was a good OS ...




No, No, NT 3.5, that seemed to be the nearest they got to a OS that
didn't crash and burn. Then they got rid of Kutler, and decided to push



Kutler??? No experience with NT 3.5 (wasn't it 3.51?)


Yes, it was, sorry speeling, I should have said Cutler, as in Dave Cutler

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?DaveCutler


the graphics driver into ring 0, and it all went to the wall again...



was that like integrating the graphics code (GDI) into the kernel level?


Yep, that was exactly what they did, MS, then started saying run servers
in VGA mode.


Anyway, NT has its roots in VMS, so you can say the OS has a good
"heritage" ...


See above, if you think VMS is good "heritage" :-)


Does depend on what you decide a "good OS" has to do, OS9 and Vertex
were IMHO both good OS's, but not much use for the man in the street
(unless the were running the trafic lights).

Well, I was more or less refering to the man in the street. Win2k is
good for what it does, fairly stable and isn't a resource hog.

OS9? You don't mean Bell Lab's Plan9, do you?


No the RTOS OS9

http://www.rtsi.com/

--
Nick

Dave Plowman (News) December 9th 04 08:32 PM

Amp swap disappointment
 
In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
The 'parallels' between DAB/VHF and CD/LP are too obvious to ignore, in
my book.....


;-)


Will you tell him how FM transmitters are fed, or shall I?


And how all the best sounding LPs for about 20 years have been mastered?

--
*Taxation WITH representation ain't much fun, either.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Tat Chan December 9th 04 09:03 PM

Amp swap disappointment
 
Jim Lesurf wrote:

In article , Keith G
wrote:



Not into 'Yello' then? ;-)



Not sure if it is the same, but there is an except from a group (?) called
'Yello' on a Graham Parsons test CD-A that I was listening to a couple of
days ago.



Graham Parsons? The country singer? (or is that *Gram* Parsons?)

Tat Chan December 9th 04 09:21 PM

Amp swap disappointment
 
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:

The 'parallels' between DAB/VHF and CD/LP are too obvious to ignore, in
my book.....



;-)



Will you tell him how FM transmitters are fed, or shall I?


Surely not MP3? ;)

(there are some radio stations that use MP3 instead of CD)



And how all the best sounding LPs for about 20 years have been mastered?


Not trolling, but were they mastered using digital and SS technology?

Don Pearce December 9th 04 09:22 PM

Amp swap disappointment
 
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:21:26 +1100, Tat Chan
wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:

The 'parallels' between DAB/VHF and CD/LP are too obvious to ignore, in
my book.....



;-)



Will you tell him how FM transmitters are fed, or shall I?


Surely not MP3? ;)

(there are some radio stations that use MP3 instead of CD)


No - NICAM ! How do you like that?



And how all the best sounding LPs for about 20 years have been mastered?


Not trolling, but were they mastered using digital and SS technology?


Give that man a cigar...

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Dave Plowman (News) December 9th 04 10:48 PM

Amp swap disappointment
 
In article ,
Tat Chan wrote:
And how all the best sounding LPs for about 20 years have been
mastered?


Not trolling, but were they mastered using digital and SS technology?


Yes. The important bit is the digital mastering to get rid of the 'curse'
of analogue tape. Really well engineered valve amps throughout the chain
wouldn't have really been an issue, but of course by then they'd well
since disappeared, since consols required more and more channels they'd
have imposed rather too many restrictions.

There was a brief period when direct cut discs offered the sort of quality
I was after - assuming it was the type of music where this was practical.
But with the advent of digital recording, they all but disappeared. And
then along came the CD. ;-)

--
*If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.


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