On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 22:21:19 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Wally" wrote in message
...

The fact that IMC doesn't like it isn't the group's problem, it's his.

His post is either a troll (in which case he's a sad ******* with
insufficient life with which to find something better to do), or he's a
rube
who needs to get out more.

I'm sure he'd be a lot happier in the Asylum, where the censors don't
allow discussions about reality, i.e. anything *proveable* by DBT.

Do you mean 'tube' (I queried this with Swim - she's a Doondunion)...??? ;-)

Rube, yokel, country bumpkin, rustic, Fen tiger, teuchter........

--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 22:15:12 -0000, "Mike Gilmour"
wrote:

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:49:06 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Iain M Churches wrote:
My point is Don, that *we* the members of this group are keeping people
out by our churlish behaviour, and the influx of new blood (or old blood
for that matter:-) would add a new dimension.

I doubt it. Those who are 'put off' by the 'churlish behaviour' are likely
to be those who don't want their views challenged.

If you wish such a group - where say valvies can discuss their hobby and
make the most outrageous claims with impunity - then you need to set up a
group where that is in the charter.

Audio Asylum. Any discussion involving DBT, i.e. actually *proving*
the truth behind your opinions, is banned by the censors.

Not only Audio Asylum but RAHE..... it used to be the never ending thread
ZZZZzzzzzz

Not quite. Discussion of DBT and other 'objective' comparisons is
certainly allowed, it's simply not permitted to *introduce* DBT
arguments into a purely subjective thread .

One can of course ask an opinionated poster "and you know this to be a
genuinely audible effect, exactly how"......... :-)
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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 20:43:34 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 16:04:24 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:

Perhaps my calling 'one here' a *bull****ter* is viewed
as being worse than being continually called a *liar* by that same
person...???

(Who knows? Who cares? - Wouldn't happen more than once, face to face,
believe you me!!)

True enough, but perhaps not in the way you meant.... :-)

Care to explain?

As sharp as a marble, yet again.....................
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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 20:14:45 -0000, "Wally"
wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

I am a psychologist........

And yet you steadfastly refuse to ackowledge expectation bias as the
likely source of your audio opinions. Fascinating.....................

Would you buy a used brain from this man? :-)

He has one?? ;-)

Truly, he is no position to give anyone a piece of his mind! :-)
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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On 10 Dec 2004 20:05:37 GMT, ohawker (Andy
Evans) wrote:

My respect for Scandinavians' ability in English is undiminished.

Does that also apply to those of us on the ng that also speak Norwegian? (eller
ikke)

Probably not - vast effort made to acquire a skill which is of
extremely limited use, is not generally cause for respect! :-)
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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

In article , Wally
wrote:


The fact that IMC doesn't like it isn't the group's problem, it's his.

His post is either a troll (in which case he's a sad ******* with
insufficient life with which to find something better to do), or he's a
rube who needs to get out more. If he plans to stick around, he'd do
well to take note of JLS's approach and get *with* the program, rather
than try to change it.


Erm... I'm not sure, but if 'JLS' is referring to me, then I should perhaps
point out that my familiy are not *that* posh. Just 'JL' (or 'JCGL' if keen
:-) )

FWIW I certainly prefer discussions that are - so far as possible - carried
out in a polite and considerate manner. Ideally, also well-informed and
open minded. However this does not seem to me to exclude questioning or
trying to correct statements that are dubious or may be unfounded or plain
incorrect.

This being the real world, though, I realise that people can get a bit
excited and enthusiastic at times - particularly when asked a question
which may act like grit in an oyster... ;-

Slainte,

Jim

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In article , Keith G
wrote:


Lemmee see, out of the half dozen people in my *immediate audio circle*
(friends and family) EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM prefers vinyl to CD (ie
thinks it's *better*)! What sort of percentage does that make?

Well, if you use a value defined in terms of the percentage of people who
are in your selected "immediate audio circle" then I'd guess it comes to
about 100 percent. However if you consider them in terms of the UK
population the percentage value may come out a wee bit smaller... :-)

Betware of selection effects when trying to employ statistics.


Do you think I give a mosquito's fart what one or two nonentities in a
public newsgroup like this one thinks, by comparison....??

TBH I don't know. You often seem to react in a way that makes it seem like
you *do* care about what said (unspecified) "nonentities" think. ;-

Slainte,

Jim

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In article , Keith G
wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article , Keith
G wrote:
I think you are missing his point Wally - he is saying that he is
aware that there are a number of people who refrain from joining in
here for fear of being unsulted or dragged into a slanging match and
that that is, ultimately, not good for this group. I happen to
agree...

There are plenty of people afraid to join in public discussions for
reasons best known to themselves. Anyone who expresses an opinion in a
debate is by nature likely to be challenged - otherwise it becomes
merely a lecture. But the one genuine lecturer here seems to be also
the one who conducts his debates with the least invective.


Well, *no-one's* perfect.....

:-)

LOL. Yes. fair point. I'd certainly agree.

One of the reasons I am polite is that I am quite aware that I am a
slow-moving and easy target. I'm quite sure I make mistakes, and having
been polite makes it easier to deal with this when it becomes clear. I
think it also may at times help others to consider things and change their
views with less anxiety.

If (as I suspect *is* the case) some people avoid posting for fear of being
dragged into personal arguments, then I'd encourage people to post anyway,
but just try to stay as polite and calm as they can. The more people join
in and behave in a polite and considerate way, the more a newsgroup's
enviroment will become polite and considerate. This does not have to mean a
removal of debate or diagreement. As Wally has pointed out, a newsgroup's
behaviour is determined by those who choose to post. If people reading this
want different behaviour, then the way to try and get this is by example,
not by advocacy.

BTW since I've now retired I'm not sure if I am still a "genuine lecturer".
More like an occasional has-been one. ;-

Slainte,

Jim

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In message , Keith G
writes

"Keith G" wrote


Or, better yet, switch your telly on *right now* and tune into a
gardening programme - some **** has hacked a Firefly about to use as
a bloody garden ornament.....!!!

*******! (Phone the producers - there might be some cheap sails and
rigging
going cheap!)

:-)

Not forgetting the lovely one-piece Ian Proctor ally mast!!

That prog's still on as I type (Monty Don) - or at least I think it is,
Swim's 'time-slipping' I believe and she's just said the the 'boat
murderer' is in the sodding lead atm...!!



Just been told the 'boat garden' just won!!!





And I learnt to sail at Brightlingsea on Fireflies as well. Sad to see
them being abused.
--
Chris Morriss

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 23:34:40 +0000, Keith G wrote:

snip

Try this:

"`Mawnin'!' sez Brer Rabbit, sezee - `nice wedder dis mawnin',' sezee.
"Tar-Baby ain't sayin' nuthin', en Brer Fox he lay low.

snip

Yowee! Thanks, Keith! My dad used to read me Brer Rabbit stories when I
was a toddler (many, many more years ago than I really care to remember
now). Sometimes he got a bit carried away with machine guns & stuff...
:-) I remember the Tar-Baby in particular.

--
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