On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:32:39 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Nothing beats a nice, smooth secondhand creaming round with no sign of a
flutter....

Indeed so, and the smoothest is the Zenith El Primero at 10 ticks per
second. OTOH, I couldn't hack that it didn't hack................
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On 28 Mar 2005 10:50:10 -0800, "

Y'know, the more I read drivel from clowns like you and Churches, the
more I realise that RAT desperately needs someone like me.............

:-))) Like a hole in the head:-)

I know that you have no military record, Stewart, and clearly lack the
social graces for Scottish regiments like the Coldstream and Scots Guards,
but still the following scene comes into mind:

The 2nd Bn HLI (Highland Light Infantry) are marching past, with
Private Pinkerton, Angus Stewart in the seventh rank. There is a
huge crowd, in the midst of which stands Mrs P. (Mum not wife)
She nudges the person standing next to her and exclaims in a
loud voice "There he is, there's my Angus, can you see him?
Yes, over there. That's him. He's the only one in step!"


Cordially,

Iain

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:58:07 +0300, "Iain M Churches"
wrote:

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
.. .
On 28 Mar 2005 10:50:10 -0800, "

Y'know, the more I read drivel from clowns like you and Churches, the
more I realise that RAT desperately needs someone like me.............

:-))) Like a hole in the head:-)

I know that you have no military record, Stewart, and clearly lack the
social graces for Scottish regiments like the Coldstream and Scots Guards,
but still the following scene comes into mind:

Actually, as with most of your claims, you know nothing of the sort,
but never mind.

The 2nd Bn HLI (Highland Light Infantry) are marching past, with
Private Pinkerton, Angus Stewart in the seventh rank. There is a
huge crowd, in the midst of which stands Mrs P. (Mum not wife)
She nudges the person standing next to her and exclaims in a
loud voice "There he is, there's my Angus, can you see him?
Yes, over there. That's him. He's the only one in step!"

A very unlikely scenario, as one would of course be an officer! :-)

Consider for instance, the common scenario of professional engineers
working for the armed forces. While they are indeed civilian workers,
they are commonly given honorary rank, frequently that of captain,
allowing them access to mess facilities more suited to their standing
within the military community.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
Consider for instance, the common scenario of professional engineers
working for the armed forces. While they are indeed civilian workers,
they are commonly given honorary rank, frequently that of captain,
allowing them access to mess facilities more suited to their standing
within the military community.
--
:-)))) LOL

You are still out of step:-)

Cordially,

Iain

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:58:07 +0300, "Iain M Churches"
wrote:

I know that you have no military record, Stewart, and clearly lack the
social graces for Scottish regiments like the Coldstream and Scots Guards,
but still the following scene comes into mind:

Actually, as with most of your claims, you know nothing of the sort,
but never mind.

It's very easy to check. You have no military record.
Perhaps you were a troop 2IC in the Boys Brigade?

A very unlikely scenario, as one would of course be an officer! :-)

Next time round Stewart, next time round......
Army officer, digital console designer,
But in the meantime, dream on, and keep licking the stamps:-))

Cordially

Iain

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:58:07 +0300, "Iain M Churches"
wrote:

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
.. .
On 28 Mar 2005 10:50:10 -0800, "

Y'know, the more I read drivel from clowns like you and Churches, the
more I realise that RAT desperately needs someone like me.............

:-))) Like a hole in the head:-)

I know that you have no military record, Stewart, and clearly lack the
social graces for Scottish regiments like the Coldstream and Scots Guards,
but still the following scene comes into mind:

Actually, as with most of your claims, you know nothing of the sort,
but never mind.

The 2nd Bn HLI (Highland Light Infantry) are marching past, with
Private Pinkerton, Angus Stewart in the seventh rank. There is a
huge crowd, in the midst of which stands Mrs P. (Mum not wife)
She nudges the person standing next to her and exclaims in a
loud voice "There he is, there's my Angus, can you see him?
Yes, over there. That's him. He's the only one in step!"

A very unlikely scenario, as one would of course be an officer! :-)

Consider for instance, the common scenario of professional engineers
working for the armed forces. While they are indeed civilian workers,
they are commonly given honorary rank, frequently that of captain,
allowing them access to mess facilities more suited to their standing
within the military community.

Something tells me you'd be lucky to snag a stale Moon Pie off the Roach Coach.

LV

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
Patrick Turner wrote:
Oinky's presence here isn't required any longer.

His attitude to tube use is counter to the interests of this group,

If you hadn't crossposted this to ukra it might have had more substance.

*




Hint. UKRA is an UK group. So don't call valves tubes.

The majority of the world's ppl use the word tube to describe a single
thermionic valve,
where the context determines exactly what is meant, since "tube" could refer
to
two valves in the one envelope, or tube.

In Oz we used valve instead of tube, or toobe, and the yanks say.

It matters not one iota, and for you to complain about it
shows that perhaps you are not moving with the times.
tube amp, valve amp, what damn difference does it make?



And could you please just stick to one of the many threads about this
without making a new one - it makes it so much easier to killfile.

Pinky is the one to start a billion new threads minute to irritate the
majority who killfilled him.



--
*Marriage changes passion - suddenly you're in bed with a relative*

And how sinical an attitude is that, eh.

Patrick Turner.



Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
Patrick Turner wrote:
Hint. UKRA is an UK group. So don't call valves tubes.

The majority of the world's ppl use the word tube to describe a single
thermionic valve,

Then stick to those newsgroups and don't cross post to ukra.

--
*Can fat people go skinny-dipping?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:08:11 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:38:33 +0300, "Iain M Churches"
wrote:


UKRA suddenly became very quiet indeed.


It did - see below:


It didn't take Stewart long
to find out to where his former opponents had migrated, and he
quickly followed. He had succeeded in driving out those
who did not share the opinions he held, and much worse, he had
kept away a number of interested and well informed people who
would have had something of interest to say.

Utter rubbish, as we've come to expect from you. I went to RAT out of
a genuine interest in the KISS project.

Bull****. You went to RAT to pump up some *crossposted* traffic knowing full
well that an (easy to do) attack on valves from a self-proclaimed ss bigot
would bring a lot of noise into what was looking to be a very quiet,
'moribund' ukra!!

Nope, just check the posting history. I began by saying nothing
whatever about valves per se, I simply pointed out that the
presumptions underlying Jute's mythical KISS amp were ill-founded, and
I explained why this was so. *After* I had done this, and rather than
argue the point, Jute started lots of ad hominem attack threads. He
must be the most sociopathic nutter I've come across on audio Usenet
since Alan Derrida. Also, pretty damned ignorant, despite his colossal
ego and his Munchausen's Syndrome problem.

The crossposting was started by Jute in his attack threads.

I had a number of people on direct telling me how dead it was and, until a
few days ago, if you deleted all RAT/UKRA crossposted threads at a stroke
there was *nothing* left...

Probably true, audio Usenet does seem to have lost almost all function
these days. RAO was always a cesspool, of course, but clowns like Jute
and Allison seem to have done the same to RAT, which used to be a
haven of peace, calm, and reasoned discussion - as you'd expect from
such gently nostalgic folk! :-)

My 'former opponents' created UKRV, but that group rapidly became
moribund, as of course no one's really interested in discussing vinyl
these days.

UKRAV became *dead* (not 'moribund') for a number of reasons:

Well, it's not 'dead', just unocuppied....................

It was a kludge from the start and many people could not get it - even my
own newsreader said 'you do not have permission to post, remove it from your
list of groups' (or somesuch very similar) toward the end.

A lot of people expressed support and enthusiasm for the idea and never
showed up. (So what's new...???)

Such is life..........

'How do I clean vinyl' can only be asked just so many ways before it becomes
a bit boring - rather like 'my 10 year old CDP's packed up (in the case of
Japanese gear - make that '2 year old CDP' in the case of British stuff)....

It was too polite - there were no punch-ups to keep the dweeps amused.

Ddidn't stop RAT being a thriving group for several years.

No one's really interested in discussing vinyl these days. (Except every
'hifi' magazine you pick up.....)

QED.............
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote


Utter rubbish, as we've come to expect from you. I went to RAT out of
a genuine interest in the KISS project.

Bull****. You went to RAT to pump up some *crossposted* traffic knowing
full
well that an (easy to do) attack on valves from a self-proclaimed ss bigot
would bring a lot of noise into what was looking to be a very quiet,
'moribund' ukra!!

Nope, just check the posting history. I began by saying nothing
whatever about valves per se, I simply pointed out that the
presumptions underlying Jute's mythical KISS amp were ill-founded, and
I explained why this was so. *After* I had done this, and rather than
argue the point, Jute started lots of ad hominem attack threads. He
must be the most sociopathic nutter I've come across on audio Usenet
since Alan Derrida. Also, pretty damned ignorant, despite his colossal
ego and his Munchausen's Syndrome problem.

The crossposting was started by Jute in his attack threads.


Not disputed, but no-one 'this side of the pond' saw fit to remove the
crossposting to UKRA. The thread belonged properly in RAT, it could have
easily been 'unhooked' - as I have done....



I had a number of people on direct telling me how dead it was and, until a
few days ago, if you deleted all RAT/UKRA crossposted threads at a stroke
there was *nothing* left...

Probably true, audio Usenet does seem to have lost almost all function
these days. RAO was always a cesspool, of course, but clowns like Jute
and Allison seem to have done the same to RAT, which used to be a
haven of peace, calm, and reasoned discussion - as you'd expect from
such gently nostalgic folk! :-)



I've no argument with that (apart from the word 'nostalgic', naturally) - my
interest was aroused when the **** started on the 'ukranians' generally.
What Froot Loops Joot didn't realise is that when he got cocky and thought
to widen his attack all he would do (AFAIC) is to *unite* the 'ukranians'!!

(Actually I rather like that name!! :-)



My 'former opponents' created UKRV, but that group rapidly became
moribund, as of course no one's really interested in discussing vinyl
these days.

UKRAV became *dead* (not 'moribund') for a number of reasons:

Well, it's not 'dead', just unocuppied....................



If it pleases you - AFAIAC it's done and dusted. My newsreader doesn't even
like it now!!



It was a kludge from the start and many people could not get it - even my
own newsreader said 'you do not have permission to post, remove it from
your
list of groups' (or somesuch very similar) toward the end.


Wot I just said....



A lot of people expressed support and enthusiasm for the idea and never
showed up. (So what's new...???)

Such is life..........


So it is.....



'How do I clean vinyl' can only be asked just so many ways before it
becomes
a bit boring - rather like 'my 10 year old CDP's packed up (in the case of
Japanese gear - make that '2 year old CDP' in the case of British
stuff)....

It was too polite - there were no punch-ups to keep the dweeps amused.

Ddidn't stop RAT being a thriving group for several years.



Well, RAT *used* to be populated by genuine enthusiasts before is became a
safe haven for twerps like FLJ...



No one's really interested in discussing vinyl these days. (Except every
'hifi' magazine you pick up.....)

QED.............


No, I was thinking of HFW, HFN and HFC..... :-)

Incidentally, I mentioned recently that HFN didn't rate the DV-575a - I was
mistaken, it was HFC. ('it ain't great on CD' or somesuch!)