"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote


Utter rubbish, as we've come to expect from you. I went to RAT out of
a genuine interest in the KISS project.

Bull****. You went to RAT to pump up some *crossposted* traffic knowing
full
well that an (easy to do) attack on valves from a self-proclaimed ss bigot
would bring a lot of noise into what was looking to be a very quiet,
'moribund' ukra!!

Nope, just check the posting history. I began by saying nothing
whatever about valves per se, I simply pointed out that the
presumptions underlying Jute's mythical KISS amp were ill-founded, and
I explained why this was so. *After* I had done this, and rather than
argue the point, Jute started lots of ad hominem attack threads. He
must be the most sociopathic nutter I've come across on audio Usenet
since Alan Derrida. Also, pretty damned ignorant, despite his colossal
ego and his Munchausen's Syndrome problem.

The crossposting was started by Jute in his attack threads.


Not disputed, but no-one 'this side of the pond' saw fit to remove the
crossposting to UKRA. The thread belonged properly in RAT, it could have
easily been 'unhooked' - as I have done....



I had a number of people on direct telling me how dead it was and, until a
few days ago, if you deleted all RAT/UKRA crossposted threads at a stroke
there was *nothing* left...

Probably true, audio Usenet does seem to have lost almost all function
these days. RAO was always a cesspool, of course, but clowns like Jute
and Allison seem to have done the same to RAT, which used to be a
haven of peace, calm, and reasoned discussion - as you'd expect from
such gently nostalgic folk! :-)



I've no argument with that (apart from the word 'nostalgic', naturally) - my
interest was aroused when the **** started on the 'ukranians' generally.
What Froot Loops Joot didn't realise is that when he got cocky and thought
to widen his attack all he would do (AFAIC) is to *unite* the 'ukranians'!!

(Actually I rather like that name!! :-)



My 'former opponents' created UKRV, but that group rapidly became
moribund, as of course no one's really interested in discussing vinyl
these days.

UKRAV became *dead* (not 'moribund') for a number of reasons:

Well, it's not 'dead', just unocuppied....................



If it pleases you - AFAIAC it's done and dusted. My newsreader doesn't even
like it now!!



It was a kludge from the start and many people could not get it - even my
own newsreader said 'you do not have permission to post, remove it from
your
list of groups' (or somesuch very similar) toward the end.


Wot I just said....



A lot of people expressed support and enthusiasm for the idea and never
showed up. (So what's new...???)

Such is life..........


So it is.....



'How do I clean vinyl' can only be asked just so many ways before it
becomes
a bit boring - rather like 'my 10 year old CDP's packed up (in the case of
Japanese gear - make that '2 year old CDP' in the case of British
stuff)....

It was too polite - there were no punch-ups to keep the dweeps amused.

Ddidn't stop RAT being a thriving group for several years.



Well, RAT *used* to be populated by genuine enthusiasts before is became a
safe haven for twerps like FLJ...



No one's really interested in discussing vinyl these days. (Except every
'hifi' magazine you pick up.....)

QED.............


No, I was thinking of HFW, HFN and HFC..... :-)

Incidentally, I mentioned recently that HFN didn't rate the DV-575a - I was
mistaken, it was HFC. ('it ain't great on CD' or somesuch!)