Advice needed on new Hi-Fi system
 

In article ,
MrBitsy wrote:
With the greatest respect, that is not good advice. I have tried several
different interconnects on my system and they do affect the sound at the
speakers. One set of costly interconnects flooded my system with bass.

That's because some 'designer' leads deliberately set out to alter things
- and a non specific application lead which alters the tonal balance like
this is crap - designed to remove money from the wallets of fools.

There's nothing magical about making an interconnect that has a poor
frequency response - only bad engineering.

--
*I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message.

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Advice needed on new Hi-Fi system
 

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:33:08 +0100, "MrBitsy"
wrote:


Laurence Payne wrote:

It's a lot of information to take in but I would first like to
outline two systems that I've 'ended up' with (purely based on
reviews and user opinions):

Book a session at your local Richer Sounds or similar (i.e. NOT a
"high-end" audio shop) to listen to a selection of speakers. These,
and where you put them in your room, make by far the most difference.

Spend around £100 on an amp, rather less on a CD player. (Richer
sounds use the "Cambridge Audio" name now. It's not the old Cambridge
Audio stuff, but it's pretty good, and inexpensive).

Don't believe a word of what they tell you about interconnects. Go to
Maplins or your local electrical shop and buy something multi-stranded
and as thick as will go into the terminals for the speakers.

With the greatest respect, that is not good advice. I have tried several
different interconnects on my system and they do affect the sound at the
speakers. One set of costly interconnects flooded my system with bass.


With the greatest respect, that was *excellent* advice. If you really
believe in 'cable sound', I have a standing offer of £1,000 to
*anyone* who can tell apart any two cables under double-blind
conditions, the only proviso being that they measure +/- 0.1dB from
20-20kHz at the speaker terminals. This is trivially easy for all but
the most pathological cables.

BTW, your assertion that a set of interconnects 'flooded you system
with bass' is fundamentally impossible.


Whatever the technical aspects of this are - interconnects are
important and
should be listened on your test system. Richer sounds will have a
selection
for you to try in a listening session.


Indeed they will - buy the cheapest that seem solidly constructed.



Isn't that how you got married?

Advice needed on new Hi-Fi system
 

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:33:08 +0100, "MrBitsy"
wrote:


Laurence Payne wrote:

It's a lot of information to take in but I would first like to
outline two systems that I've 'ended up' with (purely based on
reviews and user opinions):

Book a session at your local Richer Sounds or similar (i.e. NOT a
"high-end" audio shop) to listen to a selection of speakers. These,
and where you put them in your room, make by far the most difference.

Spend around £100 on an amp, rather less on a CD player. (Richer
sounds use the "Cambridge Audio" name now. It's not the old Cambridge
Audio stuff, but it's pretty good, and inexpensive).

Don't believe a word of what they tell you about interconnects. Go to
Maplins or your local electrical shop and buy something multi-stranded
and as thick as will go into the terminals for the speakers.

With the greatest respect, that is not good advice. I have tried several
different interconnects on my system and they do affect the sound at the
speakers. One set of costly interconnects flooded my system with bass.


With the greatest respect, that was *excellent* advice. If you really
believe in 'cable sound', I have a standing offer of £1,000 to
*anyone* who can tell apart any two cables under double-blind
conditions, the only proviso being that they measure +/- 0.1dB from
20-20kHz at the speaker terminals. This is trivially easy for all but
the most pathological cables.

BTW, your assertion that a set of interconnects 'flooded you system
with bass' is fundamentally impossible.


Whatever the technical aspects of this are - interconnects are
important and
should be listened on your test system. Richer sounds will have a
selection
for you to try in a listening session.


Indeed they will - buy the cheapest that seem solidly constructed.



Isn't that how you got married?

Advice needed on new Hi-Fi system
 

trotsky a écrit :
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:33:08 +0100, "MrBitsy"
wrote:


Laurence Payne wrote:

It's a lot of information to take in but I would first like to
outline two systems that I've 'ended up' with (purely based on
reviews and user opinions):

Book a session at your local Richer Sounds or similar (i.e. NOT a
"high-end" audio shop) to listen to a selection of speakers. These,
and where you put them in your room, make by far the most difference.

Spend around £100 on an amp, rather less on a CD player. (Richer
sounds use the "Cambridge Audio" name now. It's not the old Cambridge
Audio stuff, but it's pretty good, and inexpensive).

Don't believe a word of what they tell you about interconnects. Go to
Maplins or your local electrical shop and buy something multi-stranded
and as thick as will go into the terminals for the speakers.

With the greatest respect, that is not good advice. I have tried several
different interconnects on my system and they do affect the sound at the
speakers. One set of costly interconnects flooded my system with bass.


With the greatest respect, that was *excellent* advice. If you really
believe in 'cable sound', I have a standing offer of £1,000 to
*anyone* who can tell apart any two cables under double-blind
conditions, the only proviso being that they measure +/- 0.1dB from
20-20kHz at the speaker terminals. This is trivially easy for all but
the most pathological cables.

BTW, your assertion that a set of interconnects 'flooded you system
with bass' is fundamentally impossible.


Whatever the technical aspects of this are - interconnects are
important and
should be listened on your test system. Richer sounds will have a
selection
for you to try in a listening session.


Indeed they will - buy the cheapest that seem solidly constructed.




Isn't that how you got married?


Starting from Pinkerton's statement there's also a good joke to make
with your speakers rather than his wife. ;o)

Advice needed on new Hi-Fi system
 

trotsky a écrit :
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:33:08 +0100, "MrBitsy"
wrote:


Laurence Payne wrote:

It's a lot of information to take in but I would first like to
outline two systems that I've 'ended up' with (purely based on
reviews and user opinions):

Book a session at your local Richer Sounds or similar (i.e. NOT a
"high-end" audio shop) to listen to a selection of speakers. These,
and where you put them in your room, make by far the most difference.

Spend around £100 on an amp, rather less on a CD player. (Richer
sounds use the "Cambridge Audio" name now. It's not the old Cambridge
Audio stuff, but it's pretty good, and inexpensive).

Don't believe a word of what they tell you about interconnects. Go to
Maplins or your local electrical shop and buy something multi-stranded
and as thick as will go into the terminals for the speakers.

With the greatest respect, that is not good advice. I have tried several
different interconnects on my system and they do affect the sound at the
speakers. One set of costly interconnects flooded my system with bass.


With the greatest respect, that was *excellent* advice. If you really
believe in 'cable sound', I have a standing offer of £1,000 to
*anyone* who can tell apart any two cables under double-blind
conditions, the only proviso being that they measure +/- 0.1dB from
20-20kHz at the speaker terminals. This is trivially easy for all but
the most pathological cables.

BTW, your assertion that a set of interconnects 'flooded you system
with bass' is fundamentally impossible.


Whatever the technical aspects of this are - interconnects are
important and
should be listened on your test system. Richer sounds will have a
selection
for you to try in a listening session.


Indeed they will - buy the cheapest that seem solidly constructed.




Isn't that how you got married?


Starting from Pinkerton's statement there's also a good joke to make
with your speakers rather than his wife. ;o)

Advice needed on new Hi-Fi system
 

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:44:40 +0200, Lionel
lionel{dot}chapuis{at}free{dot}fr wrote:

trotsky a écrit :
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:33:08 +0100, "MrBitsy"
wrote:


Laurence Payne wrote:

It's a lot of information to take in but I would first like to
outline two systems that I've 'ended up' with (purely based on
reviews and user opinions):

Book a session at your local Richer Sounds or similar (i.e. NOT a
"high-end" audio shop) to listen to a selection of speakers. These,
and where you put them in your room, make by far the most difference.

Spend around £100 on an amp, rather less on a CD player. (Richer
sounds use the "Cambridge Audio" name now. It's not the old Cambridge
Audio stuff, but it's pretty good, and inexpensive).

Don't believe a word of what they tell you about interconnects. Go to
Maplins or your local electrical shop and buy something multi-stranded
and as thick as will go into the terminals for the speakers.

With the greatest respect, that is not good advice. I have tried several
different interconnects on my system and they do affect the sound at the
speakers. One set of costly interconnects flooded my system with bass.


With the greatest respect, that was *excellent* advice. If you really
believe in 'cable sound', I have a standing offer of £1,000 to
*anyone* who can tell apart any two cables under double-blind
conditions, the only proviso being that they measure +/- 0.1dB from
20-20kHz at the speaker terminals. This is trivially easy for all but
the most pathological cables.

BTW, your assertion that a set of interconnects 'flooded you system
with bass' is fundamentally impossible.


Whatever the technical aspects of this are - interconnects are
important and
should be listened on your test system. Richer sounds will have a
selection
for you to try in a listening session.


Indeed they will - buy the cheapest that seem solidly constructed.




Isn't that how you got married?


Starting from Pinkerton's statement there's also a good joke to make
with your speakers rather than his wife. ;o)

Or your air conditioner.

Advice needed on new Hi-Fi system
 

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:44:40 +0200, Lionel
lionel{dot}chapuis{at}free{dot}fr wrote:

trotsky a écrit :
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:33:08 +0100, "MrBitsy"
wrote:


Laurence Payne wrote:

It's a lot of information to take in but I would first like to
outline two systems that I've 'ended up' with (purely based on
reviews and user opinions):

Book a session at your local Richer Sounds or similar (i.e. NOT a
"high-end" audio shop) to listen to a selection of speakers. These,
and where you put them in your room, make by far the most difference.

Spend around £100 on an amp, rather less on a CD player. (Richer
sounds use the "Cambridge Audio" name now. It's not the old Cambridge
Audio stuff, but it's pretty good, and inexpensive).

Don't believe a word of what they tell you about interconnects. Go to
Maplins or your local electrical shop and buy something multi-stranded
and as thick as will go into the terminals for the speakers.

With the greatest respect, that is not good advice. I have tried several
different interconnects on my system and they do affect the sound at the
speakers. One set of costly interconnects flooded my system with bass.


With the greatest respect, that was *excellent* advice. If you really
believe in 'cable sound', I have a standing offer of £1,000 to
*anyone* who can tell apart any two cables under double-blind
conditions, the only proviso being that they measure +/- 0.1dB from
20-20kHz at the speaker terminals. This is trivially easy for all but
the most pathological cables.

BTW, your assertion that a set of interconnects 'flooded you system
with bass' is fundamentally impossible.


Whatever the technical aspects of this are - interconnects are
important and
should be listened on your test system. Richer sounds will have a
selection
for you to try in a listening session.


Indeed they will - buy the cheapest that seem solidly constructed.




Isn't that how you got married?


Starting from Pinkerton's statement there's also a good joke to make
with your speakers rather than his wife. ;o)

Or your air conditioner.

Advice needed on new Hi-Fi system
 

dave weil a écrit :
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:44:40 +0200, Lionel
lionel{dot}chapuis{at}free{dot}fr wrote:


trotsky a écrit :

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:


On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:33:08 +0100, "MrBitsy"
wrote:



Laurence Payne wrote:


It's a lot of information to take in but I would first like to
outline two systems that I've 'ended up' with (purely based on
reviews and user opinions):

Book a session at your local Richer Sounds or similar (i.e. NOT a
"high-end" audio shop) to listen to a selection of speakers. These,
and where you put them in your room, make by far the most difference.

Spend around £100 on an amp, rather less on a CD player. (Richer
sounds use the "Cambridge Audio" name now. It's not the old Cambridge
Audio stuff, but it's pretty good, and inexpensive).

Don't believe a word of what they tell you about interconnects. Go to
Maplins or your local electrical shop and buy something multi-stranded
and as thick as will go into the terminals for the speakers.

With the greatest respect, that is not good advice. I have tried several
different interconnects on my system and they do affect the sound at the
speakers. One set of costly interconnects flooded my system with bass.


With the greatest respect, that was *excellent* advice. If you really
believe in 'cable sound', I have a standing offer of £1,000 to
*anyone* who can tell apart any two cables under double-blind
conditions, the only proviso being that they measure +/- 0.1dB from
20-20kHz at the speaker terminals. This is trivially easy for all but
the most pathological cables.

BTW, your assertion that a set of interconnects 'flooded you system
with bass' is fundamentally impossible.



Whatever the technical aspects of this are - interconnects are

important and

should be listened on your test system. Richer sounds will have a

selection

for you to try in a listening session.


Indeed they will - buy the cheapest that seem solidly constructed.




Isn't that how you got married?


Starting from Pinkerton's statement there's also a good joke to make
with your speakers rather than his wife. ;o)


Or your air conditioner.

Do you know what would be Krueger answer to the above ?
I guess you know !
This is the difference between him and me...
:o)

--
"Keep the bugs off your glass and the bears off your ass"
Bad Plus

Advice needed on new Hi-Fi system
 

dave weil a écrit :
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:44:40 +0200, Lionel
lionel{dot}chapuis{at}free{dot}fr wrote:


trotsky a écrit :

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:


On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:33:08 +0100, "MrBitsy"
wrote:



Laurence Payne wrote:


It's a lot of information to take in but I would first like to
outline two systems that I've 'ended up' with (purely based on
reviews and user opinions):

Book a session at your local Richer Sounds or similar (i.e. NOT a
"high-end" audio shop) to listen to a selection of speakers. These,
and where you put them in your room, make by far the most difference.

Spend around £100 on an amp, rather less on a CD player. (Richer
sounds use the "Cambridge Audio" name now. It's not the old Cambridge
Audio stuff, but it's pretty good, and inexpensive).

Don't believe a word of what they tell you about interconnects. Go to
Maplins or your local electrical shop and buy something multi-stranded
and as thick as will go into the terminals for the speakers.

With the greatest respect, that is not good advice. I have tried several
different interconnects on my system and they do affect the sound at the
speakers. One set of costly interconnects flooded my system with bass.


With the greatest respect, that was *excellent* advice. If you really
believe in 'cable sound', I have a standing offer of £1,000 to
*anyone* who can tell apart any two cables under double-blind
conditions, the only proviso being that they measure +/- 0.1dB from
20-20kHz at the speaker terminals. This is trivially easy for all but
the most pathological cables.

BTW, your assertion that a set of interconnects 'flooded you system
with bass' is fundamentally impossible.



Whatever the technical aspects of this are - interconnects are

important and

should be listened on your test system. Richer sounds will have a

selection

for you to try in a listening session.


Indeed they will - buy the cheapest that seem solidly constructed.




Isn't that how you got married?


Starting from Pinkerton's statement there's also a good joke to make
with your speakers rather than his wife. ;o)


Or your air conditioner.

Do you know what would be Krueger answer to the above ?
I guess you know !
This is the difference between him and me...
:o)

--
"Keep the bugs off your glass and the bears off your ass"
Bad Plus

Advice needed on new Hi-Fi system
 

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 14:46:12 +0200, Lionel
wrote:

dave weil a écrit :
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:44:40 +0200, Lionel
lionel{dot}chapuis{at}free{dot}fr wrote:


trotsky a écrit :

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:


On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:33:08 +0100, "MrBitsy"
wrote:



Laurence Payne wrote:


It's a lot of information to take in but I would first like to
outline two systems that I've 'ended up' with (purely based on
reviews and user opinions):

Book a session at your local Richer Sounds or similar (i.e. NOT a
"high-end" audio shop) to listen to a selection of speakers. These,
and where you put them in your room, make by far the most difference.

Spend around £100 on an amp, rather less on a CD player. (Richer
sounds use the "Cambridge Audio" name now. It's not the old Cambridge
Audio stuff, but it's pretty good, and inexpensive).

Don't believe a word of what they tell you about interconnects. Go to
Maplins or your local electrical shop and buy something multi-stranded
and as thick as will go into the terminals for the speakers.

With the greatest respect, that is not good advice. I have tried several
different interconnects on my system and they do affect the sound at the
speakers. One set of costly interconnects flooded my system with bass.


With the greatest respect, that was *excellent* advice. If you really
believe in 'cable sound', I have a standing offer of £1,000 to
*anyone* who can tell apart any two cables under double-blind
conditions, the only proviso being that they measure +/- 0.1dB from
20-20kHz at the speaker terminals. This is trivially easy for all but
the most pathological cables.

BTW, your assertion that a set of interconnects 'flooded you system
with bass' is fundamentally impossible.



Whatever the technical aspects of this are - interconnects are

important and

should be listened on your test system. Richer sounds will have a

selection

for you to try in a listening session.


Indeed they will - buy the cheapest that seem solidly constructed.




Isn't that how you got married?


Starting from Pinkerton's statement there's also a good joke to make
with your speakers rather than his wife. ;o)


Or your air conditioner.

Do you know what would be Krueger answer to the above ?

No I don't.

I guess you know !

I guess you're wrong then.

This is the difference between him and me...
:o)
No, the difference is that you've got a better command of the English
language than he does.