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"Wally" wrote in message
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

This means LP is *adding* something to the audio that it shouldn't.

and...

Err, no. It was an example of how your whole thinking is flawed. You
are looking for an extremely coloured unnatural sound - ...

You are proceeding from a false premise.



Wally, that crackpot ain't worth the time nor energy - he does nothing
himself except yap and gets the ****s when anybody else does do summat and
has the *temerity* to shout about it here!

After I wiped his post off just now, I went through to listen to a few
minutes Late Night Junction. Due to my new speakers being back in the garage
for finishing off I had the Tannoy 609s on the SS/radio setup. I swapped
between them and the Jerichos a few times. The difference is *outstanding* -
with the Jerichos, the sound (tinkly bits, mostly) floated in the air in a
*disembodied* fashion. Switch back to the Tannoys and the sound fell back
into the speakers and the top end vanished. I would (and do) class the DC
Tannoys as very good little 'commercial speakers', but what tits like Plowie
don't know is that these 'firewood horns' image like no other and totally
disappear...!!

Swim was watching CSI Miami (?) and came through to tell me we were up for
doing a movie (we're halfway through The Fastest Indian) I said have a quick
listen to these and did the swap - no contest!! She said the second ones
(Jerichos) were 'better by miles'!

End of - it took just that long!

They (those who only yap) love to knock the 'wife said' bit, but what other
second opinion can you grab at no notice? Anyway, **** 'em...

I'm getting closer and closer to 'as good as it gets' I suspect (short of
spending 6 figures of money) - that has been my (self-imposed) challenge and
I do believe one or two here have been interested to hear about it.
(Interested enough to want to come and see for themselves!) If it gets up
Plowies arse, well I guess that's just a bonus!!

:-)

(Wot *do* they fakkin' know....???)

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Err, no. It was an example of how your whole thinking is flawed. You
are looking for an extremely coloured unnatural sound - and of course
each change you make sounds different and suits you for a day or so.
You are searching for some sort of holy grail that simply doesn't
exist.

Why does it bother you so much what I do?

I assumed you posted here to generate discussion?

Strange.....???

rest snipped

Sorry - I can't be arsed with it, you do your thing, I'll do mine....

Obviously not then. As I said, more of a Blog.



OK, Plowie - you're in luck, I got a few minutes. (Swim's watching another
sodding TV programme now, finishes in 10 minutes??)

Sure it's a blog - an Audio Blog, if I throw in a few extras that's my
prerogative and my style. (You don't get to dictate what people post here,
much as you would like to.)

Now, one question for you - would you rather I didn't post?

Simple yes or no answer - I'm not interested in what you consider ukra to be
(helpdesk, techno knobwaving arena or whatever...)??

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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Wally" wrote in message


Hi Keith, I for one enjoy reading of your exploits, and give you credit for
the enthusiasm you demonstrate. As some would say, all that is relevant is
what "turns YOU on" (not literally) and gives you enjoyment.

I can see that you like to prove to yourself that the results are what
others say they are or are not. Keep enjoying yourself with your interest,
as I know you currently do, and all the best.

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"Another Wally" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Wally" wrote in message


Hi Keith, I for one enjoy reading of your exploits, and give you credit
for the enthusiasm you demonstrate. As some would say, all that is
relevant is what "turns YOU on" (not literally) and gives you enjoyment.

I can see that you like to prove to yourself that the results are what
others say they are or are not. Keep enjoying yourself with your interest,
as I know you currently do, and all the best.



Thanks Wally - I get plenty of direct emails from people who like the
'blogging' (keep's 'em amused) but do not post here due to being fed up with
being 'put right' all the time or see their posts turned into punch-ups!
(Although I'da thowt that's not near so bad as it was....??)

Anyway, even I gotta admit it's not much of a choice - get to hear what I
had for breakfast or have your exam papers marked by the likes of
Plowie....??

;-)

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"Keith G" wrote


Anyway, even I gotta admit it's not much of a choice - get to hear what I
had for breakfast or have your exam papers marked by the likes of
Plowie....??



PS: Real neat trick on the 'Infidelios' this morning, but I'd better not say
anything.....

;-)

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"Wally" wrote in message

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

I'm happy that you enjoy your hobby and certainly that
you make so much of your own bits and bobs, but when
your flowery descriptions of just how much improved the
latest one is over last weeks delight read like the very
worst excesses of the Hi-Fi press. That made most
genuine sound enthusiasts simply stop buying them.

Keith's stuff is on-topic, interesting, and entertaining.

In a quirky sort of way.

What he's doing is right in line with the spirit of the
'rec' part of the group's name.

As are posts from people of the sonic accuracy persuasion.

Regarding your "flowery"
remark, Keith is one of the most skilled users of
language in here.

...in the eye of the beholder.

Maybe you just don't understand why he
does it, or why people come to this (or any other) group.

Here's a much-needed hint for you Wally: Not everybody comes here for the
same reason.

Seems to me that you expect this to be a place where the
discourse is dry and factual, where only equipment of a
certain standard is worthy.

There's nothing that says that discourse that is factual is necessarily dry.
In fact there's nothing more exciting than important truths, clearly stated.

You don't have to read his stuff, and you don't have to
whine about it, either.

Yup, in "Wally world" all opinions that conflict with Wally are whines.

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"Keith G" wrote in message

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in
message ...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
The worst offender here by far is Plowie - he hands it
out like we have all just got off the boat, but he
don't got the balls to back up the crap he posts with
any concrete evidence or specific information.

Sigh. You prefer vinyl to CD. So in many ways have just
got off the boat. Take a CD and copy it to another CD. You'll not tell
the
difference between them.

Take that same CD and copy it to LP. You'll instantly
tell the LP copy from the CD master.

This means LP is *adding* something to the audio that it
shouldn't.


Dear oh dear...

Is that what this is all about? You still trying to win
the Vinyl Wars? (See below...)

The vinyl/CD war was won by CD almost 20 years ago. Why are you still
fighting it, Keith?

Vinyl is stronger than it has been for the last two
decades

No, its in decline again. People can get CD players that simulate scratching
well enough, now.

every turntable manufacturer in the world has
brought out new models and even people like MF and EAR
have got into it

Each selling a few turntables every month compared to the millions of
digital A/V players sold every month?

. Competition for high quality turntables
and vinyl accessories on eBay is ferocious,
cartridge/deck manufacturers are bringing out new models
and the DJ scene has never been healthier!

Yes, the DJ scene is far healthier since the vinyl umbilical cord was cut.

You lost. Get over it....

???????????????

No way!

That you choose to ignore this most fundamental of flaws
means you're really not worth trying to educate over
other matters like horn colouration, break up of cones
with full range drivers, etc etc.

Educate?

True, anybody who is a die-hard vinyl bigot 20 years after the fact is
arguably impossible to educate. Old dogs and new tricks, etc.

You really think I need/could get an education from you?

Well, there's need and there's the possibility of a very rusty screw ever
getting turned without breaking.

(You really think you're placed to educate me?)

Having two or more synapses to rub together and make a logical though is
qualification enough.

Laughable!


No, pathetic.

I'm happy that you enjoy your hobby and certainly that
you make so much of your own bits and bobs, but when
your flowery descriptions of just how much improved the
latest one is over last weeks delight read like the very
worst excesses of the Hi-Fi press.

They what....??

If you can't answer it, avoid it - that's your preference, isn't it Keith?

That made most genuine sound
enthusiasts simply stop buying them.

WTF is a 'sound enthusiast'...??

If you have to ask, you will probably not be able to understand the answer.

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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Wally" wrote in message

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

I'm happy that you enjoy your hobby and certainly that
you make so much of your own bits and bobs, but when
your flowery descriptions of just how much improved the
latest one is over last weeks delight read like the very
worst excesses of the Hi-Fi press. That made most
genuine sound enthusiasts simply stop buying them.

Keith's stuff is on-topic, interesting, and entertaining.

In a quirky sort of way.


:-)



What he's doing is right in line with the spirit of the
'rec' part of the group's name.

As are posts from people of the sonic accuracy persuasion.


.....which attract no comment or criticism from me until those posters decide
to try and chew on my arse....

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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
. ..
"Keith G" wrote in message

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in
message ...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
The worst offender here by far is Plowie - he hands it
out like we have all just got off the boat, but he
don't got the balls to back up the crap he posts with
any concrete evidence or specific information.

Sigh. You prefer vinyl to CD. So in many ways have just
got off the boat. Take a CD and copy it to another CD. You'll not tell
the
difference between them.

Take that same CD and copy it to LP. You'll instantly
tell the LP copy from the CD master.

This means LP is *adding* something to the audio that it
shouldn't.


Dear oh dear...

Is that what this is all about? You still trying to win
the Vinyl Wars? (See below...)

The vinyl/CD war was won by CD almost 20 years ago. Why are you still
fighting it, Keith?


The 'Vinyl Wars' in this ng were won by vinyl a year or two ago. Redirect
your question to Plowie...



Vinyl is stronger than it has been for the last two
decades

No, its in decline again.


Wrong.


People can get CD players that simulate scratching
well enough, now.


Reviled by the Old School DJs I gather....???




every turntable manufacturer in the world has
brought out new models and even people like MF and EAR
have got into it

Each selling a few turntables every month compared to the millions of
digital A/V players sold every month?


Immaterial, one *more* turntable sold each month represents a growth....

How many *less* CDPs are are being sold month by month now....???



Educate?

True, anybody who is a die-hard vinyl bigot 20 years after the fact is
arguably impossible to educate. Old dogs and new tricks, etc.

You really think I need/could get an education from you?

Well, there's need and there's the possibility of a very rusty screw ever
getting turned without breaking.


You're making a fundamental error - 20 years ago I wasn't playing music of
any kind. Other than a few long-lost (not all, asitappens) LPs back in my
teens, I wasn't *into it* at all. My *choice* of vinyl is nore more than 7/8
years old, when I knew CD wasn't ever going to cut the mustard...



I'm happy that you enjoy your hobby and certainly that
you make so much of your own bits and bobs, but when
your flowery descriptions of just how much improved the
latest one is over last weeks delight read like the very
worst excesses of the Hi-Fi press.

They what....??

If you can't answer it, avoid it - that's your preference, isn't it Keith?


Stoppit Arny - you and Plowie are the worst 'selective snippers' here! Read
the words again *carefully* - he's left a 'when your flowery descriptions'
hanging...



That made most genuine sound
enthusiasts simply stop buying them.

WTF is a 'sound enthusiast'...??

If you have to ask, you will probably not be able to understand the
answer.


Try me....

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"Keith G" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Wally" wrote in message


What he's doing is right in line with the spirit of the
'rec' part of the group's name.

As are posts from people of the sonic accuracy
persuasion.

....which attract no comment or criticism from me until
those posters decide to try and chew on my arse....

Time to thicken up your thin skin a bit, Keith.