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Is this too much noise for a budget turntable..
lordy wrote:
Thanks. Can't you find a CD of this performance? ;-) "Keni Burke - Changes" - cost a few bob! Grr now you've made me spend some more cash at Amazon marketplace :) Lordy I had a similar turntable here in the past, and it seemed to transmit a hell of a lot of motor noise to the stylus, may be the same for you. I guess you have removed any trasit bolts on the TT? I also have a couple of records that seem to have hum recorded into the groove, but as this seems to be the case with several of your LP's I guess thats not it. May be worth checking with the place you got it from, there is no excuse for any turntable to do this. -- Nick |
Is this too much noise for a budget turntable..
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Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote: On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:29:50 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: Strange - it's mainly hum which would suggest a ground problem, although it would be nice if the clip included a bit before the stylus was lowered. It's possible to get induced hum on the cartridge from the turntable motor which doesn't show with the pickup on the rest. Aren't you seeing the lf stuff? Only listened to it on the computer speakers. The mains hum is the obvious thing. Ah. Look at it in a wave editor. There's HUGE amounts of lf rubbish. As on any LP? -- *When it rains, why don't sheep shrink? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Is this too much noise for a budget turntable..
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Trevor Wilson wrote: **No idea. I only test TTs at 33.33RPM, unless specifically directed to do otherwise. I DID, however, fall into the trap of testing the Debut into a phono preamp. Once. Are you absolutely certain yours does not have a built-in phono preamp? Have you listened to the clip? That's only gone through one stage of RIAA equalisation. Also, feeding a line level into a second pre-amp would result in *vast* distortion. -- *The closest I ever got to a 4.0 in school was my blood alcohol content* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Is this too much noise for a budget turntable..
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:19:43 +0800, "Alan Rutlidge"
wrote: Could be a bit of hum and rumble mixed in together. No I haven't bothered placing your samples into CEP and analysing them - too busy today for that. Some records actually have some rumble evident from the master cutting process. :-( It took me probably less time to chuck the sample into Wavelab and look at the spectrum than it did to type this message :-) If you're going to comment, might as well take the trouble to look at the problem. |
Is this too much noise for a budget turntable..
lordy wrote:
Done. I've re-recorded the clip, and added another clip from another vinyl source for good measure. http://lordy.org.uk/noise.html Note that the very low frequency repeats 33.3 times per minute on the LP and 45 times a minute on the 45. Could be a dodgy bearing or two duff discs. There may well be no earth anywhere, which is just as likely to cause mains hum as two earths. You may need to add an earth. -- Eiron No good deed ever goes unpunished. |
Is this too much noise for a budget turntable..
"Eiron" Note that the very low frequency repeats 33.3 times per minute on the LP and 45 times a minute on the 45. Could be a dodgy bearing or two duff discs. ** How about a lumpy join in the drive belt ? ....... Phil |
Is this too much noise for a budget turntable..
"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message ... "lordy" wrote in message ... On 2006-08-29, Trevor Wilson wrote: "Trevor Wilson" wrote in message ... **OK, first mistake: The Debut is already fitted with a phono preamp. It can only be used with a line level input. **Oh yeah. Make certain the MC/MM switch is correctly set. Hi Trevor, after a bit of Googling, it looks like you have the "Phono Speedbox" edition ?? **I don't own one, I just fix 'em. All of the Debuts I see are fitted with an internal phono preamp. Interesting. How many have you fixed?? |
Is this too much noise for a budget turntable..
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote: On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:29:50 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: Strange - it's mainly hum which would suggest a ground problem, although it would be nice if the clip included a bit before the stylus was lowered. It's possible to get induced hum on the cartridge from the turntable motor which doesn't show with the pickup on the rest. Aren't you seeing the lf stuff? Only listened to it on the computer speakers. The mains hum is the obvious thing. Ah. Look at it in a wave editor. There's HUGE amounts of lf rubbish. Oh dear, another clown who looks at waveforms to *see* what he's hearing.... As on any LP? What? *Including* your 'excellent' digital masters....??? |
Is this too much noise for a budget turntable..
Phil Allison wrote:
"Eiron" Note that the very low frequency repeats 33.3 times per minute on the LP and 45 times a minute on the 45. Could be a dodgy bearing or two duff discs. ** How about a lumpy join in the drive belt ? If that was the case, I would expect the noise to be when the lump passes over the pully, which would be less that 33.3 or 45. -- Nick |
Is this too much noise for a budget turntable..
"Nick Gorham" ** How about a lumpy join in the drive belt ? If that was the case, I would expect the noise to be when the lump passes over the pully, which would be less that 33.3 or 45. ** How is that so ???????? No matter what size the belt is, it only traverses the motor pully once per table revolution. Think it through ....... ........ Phil |
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