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Old August 29th 06, 02:42 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Laurence Payne
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:51:10 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Certainly - I just checked back and see I got it wrong, I thought Plowie
made the original rematk (I don't read the posts *thoroughly* enough - I
mostly skim 'em and get 'em wrong sometimes), so sorry Plowie, I didn't
realise you weren't the clown who's looking at music instead of *listening*
to it!! :-)

That do yer?

:-)


Yeah, I think you've made enough of a prat of yourself for one day.
Maybe we'll open the playpen again tomorrow.
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Old August 29th 06, 02:48 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in message
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:51:10 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Certainly - I just checked back and see I got it wrong, I thought Plowie
made the original rematk (I don't read the posts *thoroughly* enough - I
mostly skim 'em and get 'em wrong sometimes), so sorry Plowie, I didn't
realise you weren't the clown who's looking at music instead of
*listening*
to it!! :-)

That do yer?

:-)


Yeah, I think you've made enough of a prat of yourself for one day.
Maybe we'll open the playpen again tomorrow.




There goes that gob again - I guess you were a 'binning event' just waiting
to happen from the moment you blew in....

**splash**

Have fun.....




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Old August 29th 06, 03:06 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
TT
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"Phil Allison" wrote in message
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snipped usual Philthy vile and assine abuse


....... Philthy the Troll



All this and it isn't even a full Moon yet! Now go take
your meds and have a nice lay down for a bit and let the
nice people here have their little chat to each other.

TT


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Old August 29th 06, 03:07 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Nick Gorham
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Phil Allison wrote:

.... much that is best ignored ...

YOU are INDEED one, bloody pathetic, ASD ****ed pommy ****** .


Ok, to avoid future confusion, am I INDEED one, or is the "one" to a up
to now unspecified degree of accuracy, so maybe its best if I assume I
am somewhere between half and almost two bloody pathetic, ASD ****ed
pommy ******s?

Precision is important after all.

--
Nick
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Old August 29th 06, 03:11 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"lordy" wrote in message
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On 2006-08-28, Phil Allison

wrote:


You are clearly a very special person.

Lordy






....... Phil


Hi Lordy,

Just do a Google Groups search on the name in aus.hi-fi,
aus.electronics, etc and you will get the idea very quickly
what this fruitcake is all about. Please ignore him and do
not even respond to the abuse.

Cheers TT


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Old August 29th 06, 03:35 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Nick Gorham Masturbation Expert "


Go back to you fat chick porn sites - Gorham.

Time to amuse yourself more harmlessly ;-)

YOU are INDEED one, bloody pathetic, ASD ****ed pommy ****** .







........ Phil


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Old August 29th 06, 08:53 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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"lordy" wrote in message

Just breaking in my Project Debut 3 turntable. Nice sound
but there is
a lot of turntable noise. Its been a while since I've
used a turntable in anger but I don't remember this much
noise on my old Dual 505.

I've uploaded a small mp3 clip (about 10secs) here
http://lordy.org.uk/rising_to_the_top_-_keni_burke.mp3 (*)


An ideal sample for this purpose would include segments with no music at
all, and music that was as loud as possible.

The background noise is only present when the stylus hits
the vinyl - so I guess its not a ground issue?


Agreed.

Does it sound excessive?


Not if the record is very dirty.


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Old August 29th 06, 08:57 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"lordy" wrote in message

On 2006-08-28, Eiron wrote:
lordy wrote:

You have 6.5Hz, 50Hz and 100Hz components. Check your
earthing for a start and try to keep vibrations away.


Thanks.

. I've re-recorded the clip and I've noticed something
more interesting about that noise. It only kicks in when
the groove is found...

http://lordy.org.uk/noise.html


Preamp noise looks to about 66 dB down, which is mediocre.

Noise of a groove with no music is only about 30 dB down, which is pretty
horrid.


The two channels of the cartridge may be mismatched at high frequencies.


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Old August 29th 06, 09:05 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:29:50 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

Strange - it's mainly hum which would suggest a ground
problem, although it would be nice if the clip
included a bit before the stylus was lowered. It's
possible to get induced hum on the cartridge from the
turntable motor which doesn't show with the pickup on
the rest.


Aren't you seeing the lf stuff?


Only listened to it on the computer speakers. The mains
hum is the obvious thing.


The 100 Hz hum is only present when the needle is actually in the groove.

Ah. Look at it in a wave editor. There's HUGE amounts
of lf rubbish.


Cheap turntable?


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Old August 29th 06, 09:14 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:48:40 GMT, lordy
wrote:

Done. I've re-recorded the clip, and added another clip
from another vinyl source for good measure.

http://lordy.org.uk/noise.html

I noticed something a bit odd, the hum
only appears when the needle finds the groove. When its
skirting around outside of the groove there is no noise.


I'm still seeing loads of stuff below 20Hz, even before
the needle drops. Might your computer or preamp be adding
this?


Tone arm resonance around 10 Hz or so.


 




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