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"Don Pearce" wrote


I had to put the phones on to hear that (Swim's got the telly on -
watching
Monty Don!) - it's odd, kinda regular/kinda not?? Might be the bearing I
suppose - I class it as *quiet* but none is truly *silent* in the final
analysis?? (Otherwise, no idea..!!??)

Perhaps I'll record summat else later on to see if it's still there....


You need to get building that sub! I could hear it plain as day
through speakers.



Relax - so could I, now that Monty Don's gone!! I tell ya - I'm just about
keeping in front of him with his veggie plots and sodding *dripfeed
irrigation*.....

(Think butts... ;-)


I'm not convinced it was originating in the deck at
all.


I think it has to be, it's so 'rhythmic'. I'll do the end of summat else in
a moment......

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"Keith G" wrote


I think it has to be, it's so 'rhythmic'. I'll do the end of summat else
in a moment......


OK, here's the end of an 'easy listening' disc (a typically 'warts and all',
unedited clip) which segues from the last bit of 'Orange Juice' (which I
didn't have the heart to trim off) to a track called 'Belladonna' and then
up and off - actually, it serves to show how diverse these compilations can
be!

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...Belladonna.mp3


Now, other than a few farts and pops (and a strip of torn cotton right at
the end) I couldn't hear anything totally untoward? The cart was swapped to
the Orto VMS30/III that came with the deck and which seems to suit it! (Old
friends? :-)

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On 2006-09-03, Keith G wrote:
a track called 'Belladonna'

I saw 'BellaDonna' and for some reason I was expecting avi :)

Lordy

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"lordy" wrote in message
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On 2006-09-03, Keith G wrote:
a track called 'Belladonna'

I saw 'BellaDonna' and for some reason I was expecting avi :)


OK, here's an avi - the last few notes of the actual recording taken with a
'still' camera's 'movie' function:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Belladona.avi


Excuse the background noise - the camera's a bit oversensitive and some of
us are working in less than 'perfect recording studio' environments! (I
think the washing machine was on!)

Now, you've had lots of advice and said not a lot by way of response -
what's your thinking now? Note that the tt in the video clip cost 46 quid
(plus P%P) including a better cart than you get on the new ProJects!

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On 2006-09-04, Keith G wrote:

"lordy" wrote in message
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On 2006-09-03, Keith G wrote:
a track called 'Belladonna'

I saw 'BellaDonna' and for some reason I was expecting avi :)


OK, here's an avi - the last few notes of the actual recording taken with a
'still' camera's 'movie' function:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Belladona.avi

Ooops that was a bad joke on my part. Belladonna is a pornstar - so I've
heard.


Excuse the background noise - the camera's a bit oversensitive and some of
us are working in less than 'perfect recording studio' environments! (I
think the washing machine was on!)

Now, you've had lots of advice and said not a lot by way of response -
what's your thinking now?

My thinking was to look for an SL1210. Although they are not cheap,
something black would be nice. But a stop gap SL3200 would probably fit
the bill until I decide whether a turntable will be a permanent fixture
in the living room or not! Thanks for the advice. Come to think of it ,

Note that the tt in the video clip cost 46 quid
(plus P%P) including a better cart than you get on the new ProJects!

At that price I could probably take some spray paint & lacquer to it..
Thanks for advice and suggestions thus far!

Right beddie byes for me, have to travel across London tomorrow morning,
and the traffic will be approaching 'school holidays are over' levels...

Lordy

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On 2006-09-03, Keith G wrote:

"lordy" wrote in message
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On 2006-09-03, Keith G wrote:
Faulty motors aside, Don has it when he says (WTTE) that your
expectations
may be too high for the decks you are contemplating. I don't like planks
myself - they are only bloody great transducers at best, better are the
TTs
with massy platters and/or where the motor 'effectively' doesn't exist
(Direct Drive)

Are DirectDrive turntables good? I do remeber this was a turntable war
in years gone by.


I like them:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/titl...turntables.htm



An alternative is to get a 2nd hand SL1200 with a good cart. :)
I know 1200 has certain features more suited for DJing etc but from a
pure hifi perspective where does it rank?


Rock solid build quality with a tonearm which many consider to be
'limited' - never bothered me though, I hafta say and my SL-1210 would track
my Sure V15/V *all the way over* at one gram well enough. Not considered
'high end' and none too cheap new at about 350 quid....



Good 1200's have almost zero depreciation.


....exactly and, tough as they are, some of the secondhand offerings could
have more than a couple of decades of DJ'ing behind them. Check this eBay
search for Technics turntables:

http://electronics.search.ebay.co.uk...1QQsacatZ48647

Any idea what this is
Ebay Item 270023393914

I swear my brother had that exact same turntable about 10 years ago and
no way He'd pay more than £200 for a new turntable. Owner reckons £400
which puts it in SL1200/10 territory. Hmmm..

Lordy

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On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:15:26 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Keith G" wrote


I think it has to be, it's so 'rhythmic'. I'll do the end of summat else
in a moment......


OK, here's the end of an 'easy listening' disc (a typically 'warts and all',
unedited clip) which segues from the last bit of 'Orange Juice' (which I
didn't have the heart to trim off) to a track called 'Belladonna' and then
up and off - actually, it serves to show how diverse these compilations can
be!

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...Belladonna.mp3


Now, other than a few farts and pops (and a strip of torn cotton right at
the end) I couldn't hear anything totally untoward? The cart was swapped to
the Orto VMS30/III that came with the deck and which seems to suit it! (Old
friends? :-)



Yup - all the lumps and bumps have gone.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:15:26 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


Now, other than a few farts and pops (and a strip of torn cotton right at
the end) I couldn't hear anything totally untoward? The cart was swapped
to
the Orto VMS30/III that came with the deck and which seems to suit it!
(Old
friends? :-)



Yup - all the lumps and bumps have gone.



Good - suggests that the deck's not contributing *too much* to the mix..!!

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"lordy" wrote in message
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On 2006-09-04, Keith G wrote:

"lordy" wrote in message
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On 2006-09-03, Keith G wrote:
a track called 'Belladonna'

I saw 'BellaDonna' and for some reason I was expecting avi :)


OK, here's an avi - the last few notes of the actual recording taken with
a
'still' camera's 'movie' function:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Belladona.avi

Ooops that was a bad joke on my part. Belladonna is a pornstar - so I've
heard.


OK. My 'petname' for my WAD KiT88 amp is 'Johnny WAD' - I gather he's a porn
star also!! :-)


Now, you've had lots of advice and said not a lot by way of response -
what's your thinking now?

My thinking was to look for an SL1210. Although they are not cheap,
something black would be nice. But a stop gap SL3200 would probably fit
the bill until I decide whether a turntable will be a permanent fixture
in the living room or not! Thanks for the advice. Come to think of it ,


I'm not peddling the SL3200 in particular, it just so happens there's a
couple on eBay atm and I've got one myself.

If I had to 'rcommend' an eBay Technics deck on a price/performance basis it
would probably be the SL1600/1700/1800 series - fully auto, semi auto,
manual variants of the same deck - based, I believe, on the original
SL1300?? But you won't go far wrong with any Technics, Pioneer or Denon DD
deck that *looks* the part on eBay - trouble is you don't know what they're
like until you get them! The trick is to try and get one where the cart's
worth having anyway!!

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"lordy" wrote


Any idea what this is
Ebay Item 270023393914

I swear my brother had that exact same turntable about 10 years ago and
no way He'd pay more than £200 for a new turntable. Owner reckons £400
which puts it in SL1200/10 territory. Hmmm..



That looks like a) a deck which did *not* cost 400 quid new and b) a deck
that I wouldn't want myself (no universal headshell and I suspect it's a
'belter')....

See if you can find it he

http://www.vintagetechnics.com/menu.htm