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In article ,
Bob Latham wrote:
I studied telecommunications for 5 years in the 70s at technical college.
I know about LRC did the maths, etc. I know there is no explanation for
why any one *suitable* speaker cable should sound different from another.
Trouble is, I have 3 different types of speaker cable in my house and I
know the characteristic sound of each, they are clear. Now what do I do?

I haven't the tools to investigate why.
I haven't the confidence to set myself up as the fall guy for DBT.

Strange, given you are so sure you can hear a difference?

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On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 08:44:24 GMT, Bob Latham
wrote:


Its the arrogance that gets to me. The absolute certainty that this could
not be heard etc.. It makes me think of the know-alls a few hundred years
ago claiming that the earth was the centre of the universe and the sun
revolved around us. All knowledgeable people knew that, you could see the
evidence with your own eyes and anyway it was against the laws of God to
suggest otherwise.

Are you talking about the believers in magic cables, or the skeptics?


I studied telecommunications for 5 years in the 70s at technical college.
I know about LRC did the maths, etc. I know there is no explanation for
why any one *suitable* speaker cable should sound different from another.
Trouble is, I have 3 different types of speaker cable in my house and I
know the characteristic sound of each, they are clear. Now what do I do?


If it's THAT clear, take the £1000. Easy money.


I haven't the tools to investigate why.
I haven't the confidence to set myself up as the fall guy for DBT.

Why? You sounded very confident just now? Why would the
"characteristic sounds" be less clear?

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"Bob Latham" wrote in message
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Equally I'm sure the know-alls don't listen. They *know* it
can't happen and so they either don't bother to listen at all or don't
take it seriously when they do.

Self-righteousness noted.

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In article ,
Bob Latham wrote:
I haven't the tools to investigate why.
I haven't the confidence to set myself up as the fall guy for DBT.

Strange, given you are so sure you can hear a difference?

My apologies. I wrote this several days ago and decided not to post it
as it was utterly pointless. Pluto (I know Dave and Jim know what that
is) saved the file in the drafts box. I examined this today and somehow
it got posted. Not intended.

Once again I apologise.

Don't apologise, Bob. I'd be delighted if anyone could reliably tell the
difference between cables as it would inspire research into why. But first
that person has to be found, and the tests conducted properly.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Bob Latham wrote:
I haven't the tools to investigate why.
I haven't the confidence to set myself up as the fall guy for DBT.

Strange, given you are so sure you can hear a difference?

My apologies. I wrote this several days ago and decided not to post it
as it was utterly pointless. Pluto (I know Dave and Jim know what that
is) saved the file in the drafts box. I examined this today and somehow
it got posted. Not intended.

Once again I apologise.

Don't apologise, Bob. I'd be delighted if anyone could reliably tell the
difference between cables as it would inspire research into why. But first
that person has to be found, and the tests conducted properly.

Even if they could, do you really think they'd admit to it now?

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On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:33:54 GMT, Bob Latham
wrote:

If it's THAT clear, take the £1000. Easy money.

Why? You sounded very confident just now? Why would the
"characteristic sounds" be less clear?

As I said. Pointless.

It started out sounding like a point. We'd found (at last) someone
confident of telling one cable from another. But then you backed
down. Your second statement negated the first. So yes, pointless.
Pity.

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In article 1hmca2a.nd7pvt11af6g3N%wildrover.andy@googlemail. com,
Andy Hewitt wrote:
Don't apologise, Bob. I'd be delighted if anyone could reliably tell
the difference between cables as it would inspire research into why.
But first that person has to be found, and the tests conducted
properly.

Even if they could, do you really think they'd admit to it now?

I'm not quite sure what you mean? I work in pro audio, (so am perhaps more
used than most to listening for slight differences in things that may
indicate a fault, etc) and can't tell the difference between adequate
gauge ordinary cable used for speakers and any of the others - with the
exception of the high inductance type. Not that I claim to have 'golden
ears'. ;-)
So when people claim 'chalk and cheese' between cables I'm naturally
suspicious, as I simply can't reproduce their findings. Also I well know
how easily the ear is fooled - as it's part of my job.

So if someone could prove to me they *can* reliably tell the difference
I'd like to understand what that difference is, and why others can't hear
it.

But a simple 'I *can* tell the difference' without acceptable proof just
won't do. After all, anyone can tell the difference between chalk and
cheese every time...

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Dave Plowman London SW
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article 1hmca2a.nd7pvt11af6g3N%wildrover.andy@googlemail. com,
Andy Hewitt wrote:
Don't apologise, Bob. I'd be delighted if anyone could reliably tell
the difference between cables as it would inspire research into why.
But first that person has to be found, and the tests conducted
properly.

Even if they could, do you really think they'd admit to it now?

I'm not quite sure what you mean?

I think what Andy is saying is that after his earlier question re Bi-Wiring
and what cables to use and the replies he received, he found that the
ordinary woollen flame suit he wears will not stop the extremes of
temperature generated by that point of discussion in this news group.

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APR wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article 1hmca2a.nd7pvt11af6g3N%wildrover.andy@googlemail. com,
Andy Hewitt wrote:
Don't apologise, Bob. I'd be delighted if anyone could reliably tell
the difference between cables as it would inspire research into why.
But first that person has to be found, and the tests conducted
properly.

Even if they could, do you really think they'd admit to it now?

I'm not quite sure what you mean?

I think what Andy is saying is that after his earlier question re Bi-Wiring
and what cables to use and the replies he received, he found that the
ordinary woollen flame suit he wears will not stop the extremes of
temperature generated by that point of discussion in this news group.

Correct on one point. Wrong in that it was *my* question, it wasn't, I
merely chimed in regarding the purchase of cables from Farnell/CPC.

--
Andy Hewitt
http://www.thehewitts.eclipse.co.uk/
http://web.mac.com/andrewhewitt1/

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In article , Bob Latham
wrote:


My apologies. I wrote this several days ago and decided not to post it
as it was utterly pointless. Pluto (I know Dave and Jim know what that
is) saved the file in the drafts box. I examined this today and somehow
it got posted. Not intended.

I also have found it awkward that Jonathan put the bin right next to the
tick. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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