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Old October 25th 06, 01:20 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Wondering which of the following two Audio Valve amplifiers to buy:
Any helpful comments would be appreciated.
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(1) PRIMALUNA PROLOGUE 2
(2) Pathos Classic One
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Thank you for your help.
Wed 25Oct06

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Old October 25th 06, 01:44 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Wondering which of the following two Audio Valve amplifiers to buy:
Any helpful comments would be appreciated.
*
(1) PRIMALUNA PROLOGUE 2
(2) Pathos Classic One
*


You say nothing about your own preferences or circumstances of use. Thus
unless we all happen to have preferences/circumstances which are the same
as yours we have no idea if any comments we make will apply in your case.

Nor do you give any info why you pick out the above two specific designs
from the many others which are available.

Is there some reason why you can't decide on the basis of trying the amps
for yourself?

Slainte,

Jim

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Old October 25th 06, 10:27 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Wondering which of the following two Audio Valve amplifiers to buy:
Any helpful comments would be appreciated.
*
(1) PRIMALUNA PROLOGUE 2
(2) Pathos Classic One


I agree with Jim - why these two? What brought you to select these?
Power, looks, reviews, reputation.......

You're talking serious money. Do you want new or would good used be
better value? Do you have any engineering skills at all - could you do
a simple modification or is it just changing valves and cables?

If you want any useful opinions you'll have to tell us what speakers
you use, what music, and what size room just for starters.

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Old October 26th 06, 01:20 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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ups.com...
Wondering which of the following two Audio Valve amplifiers to buy:
Any helpful comments would be appreciated.
*
(1) PRIMALUNA PROLOGUE 2
(2) Pathos Classic One
*


**What a bizarre question. You say NOTHING about speakers, room, sources, or
what you are attempting to achieve. Even more bizarre is that you have
restricted yourself to TWO amplifiers. There are hundreds available. Your
choice of two valve amps, is akin to asking people about buying a car, but
restricting yourself to a Model T Ford, or a similar vintage GM product. And
worst of all, is that you appear to asking the opinion of a bunch of people
you've never met. You have no idea about the listening habits, speakers or,
even more seriously, agendas, of the people who respond to your, rather
banal, question.

Here's what you SHOULD do (but you probably won't, because it makes sense):

* Ignore the opinions of those you have never met.
* Ignore magazine reviews (you have no idea what their agenda may be)
* Decide what speakers you will be using. This may, or may not place,
immediate restrictions on your choice of amplifier.
* Decide on a budget for the amplifier.
* Find a selection of amplifiers, which are in your price range and which
will suit your speakers, that are available for audition locally.
* LISTEN to those amplifiers, preferably in a blind test, WITH YOUR SPEAKERS
IN YOUR LISTENING ROOM.
* Do not spend a single cent until you've had a good listen.
* Choose the best amp.

Easy.


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Old October 26th 06, 09:05 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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ups.com...
Wondering which of the following two Audio Valve amplifiers to buy:
Any helpful comments would be appreciated.
*
(1) PRIMALUNA PROLOGUE 2
(2) Pathos Classic One
*
Thank you for your help.
Wed 25Oct06




The chances of anybody here having personal experience of both these amps in
their own own home, on their own systems, is probably zero so you are
effictively asking for an uninformed opinion. Those days appear to be over
in this group (?), so my advice is buy them both and flog on the one you
don't want, but if that it isn't possible you will have to what the rest of
us do - Google them to death and then try and get an audition or, better
yet, a loan of both of them.

Here's two sites for starters:

http://www.upscaleaudio.com/product.asp?itemid=25

http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/pathos-classic1_e.html


With a gun to my head for a snap decision, I would choose the Prima Luna....

Easy....



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Old October 28th 06, 05:03 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:44:50 +0100, Jim Lesurf
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You say nothing about your own preferences or circumstances of use. Thus
unless we all happen to have preferences/circumstances which are the same
as yours we have no idea if any comments we make will apply in your case.


What a load of puffed-up hot air and drivel.

The Logos and the Prima Luna amps have received a huge amount of good
press. It doesn't mean they are going to be 'the best' but for as a
short list for an integrated class A valve amps at that price point
its a great starting point. Sure go and try them out, try and get a
demo at home, but I'd say your 're on the right track.

Forget all these stuffy comments about 'hifi' being inferior to some
home made monster cobbled together in the garden shed plugged together
with chicken wire.


If you are in London try KJ West One and Guildford Audio for a demo.

Neil
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Old October 28th 06, 05:06 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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On 25 Oct 2006 15:27:49 -0700, "Andy Evans"
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(1) PRIMALUNA PROLOGUE 2
(2) Pathos Classic One


I agree with Jim - why these two? What brought you to select these?
Power, looks, reviews, reputation.......


Reputation, talk to a reputable hifi dealer and they'd probably short-
list these two amps as a good starting point for valve amplification.
The Pathos classic is a 'classic' .
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Old October 28th 06, 05:10 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:20:20 +1000, "Trevor Wilson"
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* Ignore magazine reviews (you have no idea what their agenda may be)


Another conspiracy theorist ! Some reviewers may be deaf but reviews
are a very useful starting point for drawing up a short list.

Talking to hifi dealers and research their suggestions in magazines is
a good plan.
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Old October 28th 06, 10:39 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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* Ignore magazine reviews (you have no idea what their agenda may be)

Another conspiracy theorist ! Some reviewers may be deaf but reviews
are a very useful starting point for drawing up a short list.

Talking to hifi dealers and research their suggestions in magazines is
a good plan.


The point about size of room, speakers etc is that if the room is small
and speakers sensitive, then the OP could use something like a 2a3 or
300b amp - push pull even, doesn't have to be single ended. Other
things being equal I'd expect a PP 2a3 or 300b amp to outclass a
pentode amp with global feedback. Could be the OP already figured he
had to use pentodes because of speakers/size of room, but how do we
know?

Talking to dealers is a question of who you talk to, as are most things
in this world. I think some of us alleged "conspiracy theorists" are
simply realists.

 




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