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so then the gold and platinum-plated stuff is done only to reduce corrosion?

I have played the cable and interconnect game and have found that the any
good quality interconnect sounds as good as expensive ones. I have a friend
that buys into all that crap, including $1200 power conditioners. LOL!

My original comments was in response to:
'...just have a look inside the box of your amp etc.You won't find anything
esoteric there :-)...'

That's not entirely true. Many mid to hi end manufacturers use loads of
esoteric stuff inside too.



"Phil" wrote in message
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Don't know anything about wiring or electronics, but do know something
about jewelry. Silver solder, to me, means blowtorches and brazing
temperatures ie red-hot metal. What does it mean in this context?
Nick

In this context, it usually means ordinary solder with 2% silver added so
as
not to leach silver from the connection.

Norm Strong

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BTW: I'm not being sarcastic, just a little exaggerated.

I don't believe in expensive interconnects or cables at all. I do believe in
quality and the level of. I don't think that the silver solder is
responsible for the durability of my unit but I do believe it is
manufactured allot better then anything from Sony.

However, RCA does make crap everything :)




"fish" wrote in message
et...
you may be correct, most audiophile equipment manufacturers sell snake
oil.

I believe anything that reduces corrosion can last longer. The gold and
platinum pots have hardly been cleaned over the least 20 years and they
are
very silent. I have also never had an issue with lose of ground or
connection and the unit has been moved (tossed) around quite a bit.

But its all BS. I mean, monster cable or lamp-cord, same ****e! Aluminum
couplings from Radio Shack are not any less effective as gold-plated
silver
ones from the 'audiophile' store. It's amazing how gullible people are.
Make
a $269 interconnect and they will buy it. Hell, I bet you can switch it
with
that spaghetti string crap that RCA ships with its $69 DVD players sold
everywhere from you local supermarket to the nationwide Electronics-R-Us
stores and they will never know. Stick it in a thick rubber case and tell
them it was $499 and they will tell you how much better is sounds, right?
Interconnects have no effects on the sound texture at all and for that
matter, the internal wiring of any component can be cheapened to help
reduce
overall consumer cost. Same for power transformers.

Yup, snake oil and hair tonic.


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Nick H (UK)" wrote in message

fish wrote:
not inside my amp.

All the wiring and control pods in my amp are very high grade
oxygen-free copper with silver solder

Don't know anything about wiring or electronics, but do know something
about jewelry. Silver solder, to me, means blowtorches and brazing
temperatures ie red-hot metal. What does it mean in this context?
Nick

Tin-lead solder with a few percent of silver. I believe the silver was
originally added to reduce erosion of silver plating during soldering.
Since
then all sorts of ignorant snake-oil claims have been made about it.

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BTW: I'm not being sarcastic, just a little exaggerated.

I don't believe in expensive interconnects or cables at all. I do believe in
quality and the level of. I don't think that the silver solder is
responsible for the durability of my unit but I do believe it is
manufactured allot better then anything from Sony.

However, RCA does make crap everything :)




"fish" wrote in message
et...
you may be correct, most audiophile equipment manufacturers sell snake
oil.

I believe anything that reduces corrosion can last longer. The gold and
platinum pots have hardly been cleaned over the least 20 years and they
are
very silent. I have also never had an issue with lose of ground or
connection and the unit has been moved (tossed) around quite a bit.

But its all BS. I mean, monster cable or lamp-cord, same ****e! Aluminum
couplings from Radio Shack are not any less effective as gold-plated
silver
ones from the 'audiophile' store. It's amazing how gullible people are.
Make
a $269 interconnect and they will buy it. Hell, I bet you can switch it
with
that spaghetti string crap that RCA ships with its $69 DVD players sold
everywhere from you local supermarket to the nationwide Electronics-R-Us
stores and they will never know. Stick it in a thick rubber case and tell
them it was $499 and they will tell you how much better is sounds, right?
Interconnects have no effects on the sound texture at all and for that
matter, the internal wiring of any component can be cheapened to help
reduce
overall consumer cost. Same for power transformers.

Yup, snake oil and hair tonic.


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Nick H (UK)" wrote in message

fish wrote:
not inside my amp.

All the wiring and control pods in my amp are very high grade
oxygen-free copper with silver solder

Don't know anything about wiring or electronics, but do know something
about jewelry. Silver solder, to me, means blowtorches and brazing
temperatures ie red-hot metal. What does it mean in this context?
Nick

Tin-lead solder with a few percent of silver. I believe the silver was
originally added to reduce erosion of silver plating during soldering.
Since
then all sorts of ignorant snake-oil claims have been made about it.

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In article ,
Nick H (UK) wrote:
So it's the usual stuff with just a little bit silver added. I would
guess that it would have to be a very very tiny amount not to take the
melting pint over what can be achieved with a soldering iron.

Alloys are strange. It's perfectly possible for an alloy to have a lower
melting point then any of the pure metals.

--
*Geeks shall inherit the earth *

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

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In article ,
Nick H (UK) wrote:
So it's the usual stuff with just a little bit silver added. I would
guess that it would have to be a very very tiny amount not to take the
melting pint over what can be achieved with a soldering iron.

Alloys are strange. It's perfectly possible for an alloy to have a lower
melting point then any of the pure metals.

--
*Geeks shall inherit the earth *

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

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Dave Plowman wrote:
In article ,
Nick H (UK) wrote:

So it's the usual stuff with just a little bit silver added. I would
guess that it would have to be a very very tiny amount not to take the
melting pint over what can be achieved with a soldering iron.


Alloys are strange. It's perfectly possible for an alloy to have a lower
melting point then any of the pure metals.


Indeed, there's a word for it --- the brain cells are dim, but something
like eutectic?? --- but the proportions are fairly critical, I believe.

--
Nick H (UK)

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Dave Plowman wrote:
In article ,
Nick H (UK) wrote:

So it's the usual stuff with just a little bit silver added. I would
guess that it would have to be a very very tiny amount not to take the
melting pint over what can be achieved with a soldering iron.


Alloys are strange. It's perfectly possible for an alloy to have a lower
melting point then any of the pure metals.


Indeed, there's a word for it --- the brain cells are dim, but something
like eutectic?? --- but the proportions are fairly critical, I believe.

--
Nick H (UK)

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"fish" wrote in message
et...

My original comments was in response to:
'...just have a look inside the box of your amp etc.You won't find
anything
esoteric there :-)...'

That's not entirely true. Many mid to hi end manufacturers use loads of
esoteric stuff inside too.

Yeah right... IMNSHE they all pretty much use 'mains' wire - please give us
an example of a mid range manufacturer who uses 'esoteric stuff inside.

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"fish" wrote in message
et...

My original comments was in response to:
'...just have a look inside the box of your amp etc.You won't find
anything
esoteric there :-)...'

That's not entirely true. Many mid to hi end manufacturers use loads of
esoteric stuff inside too.

Yeah right... IMNSHE they all pretty much use 'mains' wire - please give us
an example of a mid range manufacturer who uses 'esoteric stuff inside.

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*Geeks shall inherit the earth *

No they won't. People with big companies shall inherit the earth