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Jim H October 19th 03 01:29 AM

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more from the 'Dave Plowman school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:

In article ,
Jim H wrote:
True, but there are also valid resons for it's use. My solder contains
silver because I'd rather not take a lungfull of toxic lead fumes
whenever I need a new cable.


I thought the sort of solder for electrical work that contains a small
amount of silver also contains the usual amount of lead?


My mistake. It seems all lead-free is silver, but not all silver is lead-
free.

Besides, it's the first I've heard of the lead in solder being a health
hazard under normal use. The flux, yes.

Hasn't lead got to be a dust or actually incinerated before it's a hazard
to breathe?


Not sure. I've always been tought to try not to breathe the fumes from the
standard 60/40 stuff. Would be interesting to hear if they actually are
harmful.

--
Jim H jh
@333
.org

Dave Plowman October 19th 03 10:02 AM

Sound card to amp?
 
In article ,
Jim H wrote:
Not sure. I've always been tought to try not to breathe the fumes from
the standard 60/40 stuff. Would be interesting to hear if they actually
are harmful.


For occasional DIY I seriously doubt there is any real health hazard. H&S
regulations require some form of extraction for regular use. But I'd
always thought this was mainly for the flux fumes which are carcinogenic.

--
*A backward poet writes inverse.*

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Dave Plowman October 19th 03 10:02 AM

Sound card to amp?
 
In article ,
Jim H wrote:
Not sure. I've always been tought to try not to breathe the fumes from
the standard 60/40 stuff. Would be interesting to hear if they actually
are harmful.


For occasional DIY I seriously doubt there is any real health hazard. H&S
regulations require some form of extraction for regular use. But I'd
always thought this was mainly for the flux fumes which are carcinogenic.

--
*A backward poet writes inverse.*

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Dave Plowman October 19th 03 10:07 AM

Sound card to amp?
 
In article ,
Jim H wrote:
I thought the sort of solder for electrical work that contains a small
amount of silver also contains the usual amount of lead?


My mistake. It seems all lead-free is silver, but not all silver is lead-
free.


I'm not sure what the lead free stuff that's now required on potable water
pipes consists of - or that it's suitable for electronics.

'Real' silver solder is a form of brazing and requires a much greater
heat.

--
*Middle age is when it takes longer to rest than to get tired.

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Dave Plowman October 19th 03 10:07 AM

Sound card to amp?
 
In article ,
Jim H wrote:
I thought the sort of solder for electrical work that contains a small
amount of silver also contains the usual amount of lead?


My mistake. It seems all lead-free is silver, but not all silver is lead-
free.


I'm not sure what the lead free stuff that's now required on potable water
pipes consists of - or that it's suitable for electronics.

'Real' silver solder is a form of brazing and requires a much greater
heat.

--
*Middle age is when it takes longer to rest than to get tired.

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Laurence Payne October 19th 03 08:25 PM

Sound card to amp?
 
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 12:32:45 +0000 (UTC), Jim H
wrote:

Since then all sorts of ignorant snake-oil claims have been made about
it.


True, but there are also valid resons for it's use. My solder contains
silver because I'd rather not take a lungfull of toxic lead fumes whenever
I need a new cable.


It contains a little silver as well as the usual amount of lead,
doesn't it?

Anyway, the fumes are from flux burning up. I doubt your iron is hot
enough to vaporise lead. Which would, indeed, make a bit of a mess
of your lungs :-)

Laurence Payne October 19th 03 08:25 PM

Sound card to amp?
 
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 12:32:45 +0000 (UTC), Jim H
wrote:

Since then all sorts of ignorant snake-oil claims have been made about
it.


True, but there are also valid resons for it's use. My solder contains
silver because I'd rather not take a lungfull of toxic lead fumes whenever
I need a new cable.


It contains a little silver as well as the usual amount of lead,
doesn't it?

Anyway, the fumes are from flux burning up. I doubt your iron is hot
enough to vaporise lead. Which would, indeed, make a bit of a mess
of your lungs :-)

Jim H October 22nd 03 10:12 PM

Sound card to amp?
 
more from the 'Laurence Payne school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 12:32:45 +0000 (UTC), Jim H
wrote:

Since then all sorts of ignorant snake-oil claims have been made
about it.


True, but there are also valid resons for it's use. My solder contains
silver because I'd rather not take a lungfull of toxic lead fumes
whenever I need a new cable.


It contains a little silver as well as the usual amount of lead,
doesn't it?


The stuff I use is lead-free. It was on special offer so hardly more
expensive than 60/40. It contains some small amount of silver (10%). I
quite like using it - Lead free has a lower melting point, so easier to
do large joints without a high power iron.

Anyway, the fumes are from flux burning up. I doubt your iron is hot
enough to vaporise lead. Which would, indeed, make a bit of a mess
of your lungs :-)


Ah, well. If I've heard wrong, it's at least the same.

--
Jim H jh
@333
.org

Jim H October 22nd 03 10:12 PM

Sound card to amp?
 
more from the 'Laurence Payne school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 12:32:45 +0000 (UTC), Jim H
wrote:

Since then all sorts of ignorant snake-oil claims have been made
about it.


True, but there are also valid resons for it's use. My solder contains
silver because I'd rather not take a lungfull of toxic lead fumes
whenever I need a new cable.


It contains a little silver as well as the usual amount of lead,
doesn't it?


The stuff I use is lead-free. It was on special offer so hardly more
expensive than 60/40. It contains some small amount of silver (10%). I
quite like using it - Lead free has a lower melting point, so easier to
do large joints without a high power iron.

Anyway, the fumes are from flux burning up. I doubt your iron is hot
enough to vaporise lead. Which would, indeed, make a bit of a mess
of your lungs :-)


Ah, well. If I've heard wrong, it's at least the same.

--
Jim H jh
@333
.org

Dave Plowman October 22nd 03 11:43 PM

Sound card to amp?
 
In article ,
Jim H wrote:
The stuff I use is lead-free. It was on special offer so hardly more
expensive than 60/40. It contains some small amount of silver (10%). I
quite like using it - Lead free has a lower melting point, so easier to
do large joints without a high power iron.


Although lead free is common for mechanical soldering - like copper tube -
I understood the need for it was giving the electronics industry real
headaches. ;-)

--
*A bartender is just a pharmacist with a limited inventory *

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn


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