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Andre Jute May 28th 07 12:59 PM

The Worthless Wieckless trashroll of errors accelerates, was fa single ended stereo tube amp
 

Engineer wrote:
On May 24, 11:20 pm, Andre Jute wrote:

(snip)

... 16 is apparently 2*4).


(snip)

No, that's 8.
16 is 2^4
Cheers,
Roger


Gee, Rog, the things you know are amazing. -- André Jute


Andre Jute May 28th 07 01:13 PM

The Worthless Wieckless trashroll of errors accelerates, was fa single ended stereo tube amp
 

Engineer wrote:
On May 24, 11:20 pm, Andre Jute wrote:

(snip)

... 16 is apparently 2*4).


(snip)

No, that's 8.
16 is 2^4
Cheers,
Roger


Gee, Rog, the things you know are amazing. -- André Jute


Andre Jute May 28th 07 01:28 PM

The Worthless Wieckless trashroll of errors accelerates, was fa single ended stereo tube amp
 

Engineer wrote:
On May 24, 11:20 pm, Andre Jute wrote:

(snip)

... 16 is apparently 2*4).


(snip)

No, that's 8.
16 is 2^4
Cheers,
Roger


Gee, Rog, the things you know are amazing. -- André Jute


KE4ODD May 28th 07 02:22 PM

The Worthless Wieckless trashroll of errors accelerates, was fa single ended stereo tube amp
 
On 28 May 2007 05:45:15 -0700, Andre Jute wrote:


An internet slug called Peter Wieck


Andre,

You could not have picked a more worthy person. Worthless Wiecky fits
well.

Tracy
__________________________________________________ __

For the folks that get confused when I post from different computers:

KE4ODD, Tracy Fort, Beerbarrel and whatever the hell else you want to call me are all the same person!....ME!

Andre Jute May 28th 07 02:48 PM

The Worthless Wieckless trashroll of errors accelerates, was fa single ended stereo tube amp
 

KE4ODD wrote:
On 28 May 2007 05:45:15 -0700, Andre Jute wrote:


An internet slug called Peter Wieck


Andre,

You could not have picked a more worthy person. Worthless Wiecky fits
well.

Tracy


Thanks, Tracy. Good to know that I didn't step on some innocent.
That's why I usually give the little stalkers like Worthless Wieckless
a year or so of open season on me before I put them down, so that
nobody can say I overreacted.

Here's the whole post you're responding to, so no one can be baffled
by "fragmented posts" as Phil B was baffled until he grasped that
several newsgroups are involved.

**********

Yo, Phil B:

The guy you want to blame is one Arny Krueger, an "engineer" who hangs
out on rec.audio.opinion. Your original question -- How does this end
up on rec.antiques.radio+phono? -- struck me as so interesting that,
before going off on a 100 mile drive in the lanes and Sunday lunch at
The Snug in Bantry, I called a couple of grad students and told them
to stop canoodling and instead make a transaction analysis of the
various threads and find out who dunnit. I've just received the first
verbal report and a written report will be published in a few weeks if
you are interested.

An internet slug called Peter Wieck has been trashing every one of my
posts for 18 months or so. I just ignored him. We get the likes of
him, who fancy themselves literate, all the time; it is like a fat
little go-kart driver bragging, "Look Ma, I rubbed a Nascar Trucks
hard man into the wall!", and in the next second the truck racer says,
"What was that pimple in the road I just drove over?" Meanwhile this
Wieck creep, apparently some kind of a jumped-up janitor from
Philadelphia, proved so technically incompetent that John Byrns, a
senior man on RAT, nicknamed him Useless Wieck. George Middius of RAO
then changed Useless into "Worthless" to account for both technical
incompetence and Wieck's observable moral degeneracy as a constant
bully and hypocrite. I added "Wiecky" on account of the little man's
pettiness, and now he was Worthless Wiecky. The other thing you need
to know is that I'm a novelist (see URL under my sig) and some of my
books, which resulted in sovereign governments sending assassins after
me, were published under a pseudonym; Worthless Wiecky, like every
other stalker, pretends to know the facts of his victim's life better
than the victim himself; in particular Worthless pretended that Andre
Jute (that's me now) is a sock puppet of the pseudonym Andrew McCoy.
You can still see the stalker syndrome in Worthless Wiecky's so-called
apology, in which he pretends I'm some kind of a handicapped person
(I've already demonstrated I'm mentally perfectly capable of taking
care of a jumped-up janitor, and the next time I pass through Philly,
I'm perfectly happy, should there be any demand for it, to break
Worthless's arms and legs to demonstrate that I am physically
perfectly capable too). That's the background.

So, after 18 months of mostly ignoring Worthless Wiecky, I see a post
from George Middius about the way the stalker Worthless Wiecky tries
to confuse my identity. The botch Worthless has made of this simple
little job over no less than 18 months (Jesus, how does this
incompetent earn a living?) offends me, so I dash off a quick, funny
post confessing to having created Worthless Wiecky as my sock puppet.
An exceedingly literal flatbilly biblebasher called Kenny XXX then
abuses me for having, in contravention of scriptural probibition,
created a "gollam" and I point out that my golem Worthless was made,
not from genuine corpses, but from offal stuffed into a sock.

At this point Arny Krueger, who earlier got badly scorched by his own
hubris when I set him up as a lab rat in an experiment for a few
gifted students of motivational psychology, starts claiming that
Worthless Wiecky won the argument. When It is pointed out to Krueger
by John Byrns that on the premier conferences where I can be found
(RAT, UKRA, RAO) there is not a spot of my blood but the carpet is
ankle-deep in Worthless Wiecky's blood, Krueger, cornered in another
lie, then claims Worthless did the damage on rec.antiques.radio+phono.

At this point Gray Glasser published an analysis of whose blood had
been spilled and, presumably because Krueger insisted that
rec.antiques.radio+phono was relevant, included rec.antiques.radio
+phono in the distribution list. Gray also pointed out that a golem
can't breed and I supplied the detail that just to make sure of it I
crashed the bricks on Worthless Wiecky's balls and thus turned him
into Worthless Wieckless, dickless golem. If you want to check this
account, rec.audio.tubes has all the posts, starting about a fortnight
back.

My entire involvement in this affair was less than 15 minutes to
dictate a couple of whimsical posts, and after it was over another
twenty minutes for a phone call to get an answer to your question
about who involved rec.antiques.radio+phono, receive the analysis and
dictate this post. So,while you might normally say that I have a
better understanding of the critical path of a flame war and its
conduct than anyone else on the net, and all the necessary
psychological and polemical skills to put it in train with the minimum
of exertion, in this instance it wasn't me who involved some obscure
little newsgroup, it was Arny Krueger who dunnit. In fact, I have an
alibi: I wasn't even in town, I was away overnight, dining at Lord
Kenmare's, when it happened. On my return, seeing that some of my own
friends were disturbed enough by the fall of Worthless Wieckless to
describe it as "brutal, ugly and one-sided" -- what else could it be:
I'm a professional polemicist and Wieckless is a janitor -- I ducked
out of the threads before I started generating sympathy for this
undeserving little stalker Worthless Wieckless.

There's your answer, Phil B. Go kick Krueger. He's the evil kingpin
who involved innocent little old rec.antiques.radio+phono in the
stalking "career" of Worthless Wieckless, golem. Krueger anyway richly
deserves kicking any time you see him.

Of course, the primary involvement of rec.antiques.radio+phono is by
Worthless Wieckless, for abusing me there behind my back (use Google
to search for McCoy and Jute). But I presume you fellows on
rec.antiques.radio+phono can punish Wieckless adequately for his
crimes. If you need help, call.

Andre Jute
Visit Andre at http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/
No real corpses were harmed in the assembly of the golem Worthless
Wieckless -- CE Statement of Conformity

Phil B wrote:
Jeeze. Now I see why this trash appeared so fragmented. This thread is cross
posted to 4 newsgroups. That's a great way to trash multiple groups at the
same time! Previous related threads were posted only to RAT. I was picking
up only the latest venom from RAR+P.

Phil B

"Phil B" wrote in message
news:bP96i.287$106.213@trndny02...
I find it a sorry state of affairs when I see these fragmented responses
after filtering. None of this needs posting here. Responders are just as
whacky as the original poster. Original poster may be certifiably insane,
but responders seem likewise to me.

Phil B


wrote in message
oups.com...

John Byrns wrote:
In article .com,
Peter Wieck wrote:

On May 24, 8:23 am, "hydebee" wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=150125684898

What makes you think this is "single-ended" and not PP? 2 x 6BQ5 and
that it is a Magnavox strongly suggests a PP configuration.

Peter, have you lost all your marbles, are you blind, or both?

Being bled out, as Worthless Wieckless was, robs the brain of blood
and thus oxygen. Result: zero thought (a familiar condition to
Wieckless!).

Add to that exsanguinated lassitude the distraction of being knackered
into Wiecklessness, what Gray Glasser so delicately describes as the
"unmanning" (1) of Worthless (heh-heh, Gray, you learned a lot from
observing me a couple of years, in particular to go directly for the
bal-- I mean the jugular! LOL!), and you can see how the Worthless
trashroll of errors will pile up even faster from now onwards.


The photos show two input jacks, and two output transformers, isn't that
strongly suggestive of it being a stereo amp, in which case it doesn't
have enough tubes for it to be anything but "single-ended", PP would
require 4 x 6BQ5.

You reward might be in another world, John, but here on earth I've
long since given up explaining to Wieckless as a waste of time.

It isn't as if Worthless Wieckless, even before I bled him even dumber
and then knackered him, were (2) even remotely knowledgeable. He
didn't know what ballasts do, he thought resistors dissipate to their
power limit regardless of the actual amount of current through them,
he earlier gave another wretched display of mistaking an SE amp for
PP, and much, much more of his dire ignorance. Besides ignorance,
Wieckless is a nasty little ingrate whose idea of thanks is dully
unimaginative abuse liberally layered over his benefactor.

Regards,

John Byrns

--
Surf my web pages at, http://fmamradios.com/

Andre Jute
No real corpses were harmed in the assembly of my golem Worthless
Wieckless
-- CE Statement of Conformity

(1) Hey, Gray, I loved the double entendre of "unmanned" to imply both
the fact that my golem Wieckless is a mule which cannot breed and
that, to make doubly sure the offal I stuffed into the sock to make
the puppet doesn't replicate to stink us out, I knocked the bricks on
his testicles. For the rest of you, Gray considers words with leery
cynicism because that's his job, but those of you who have dreams of
being writers, or even stylists, or even the modest (ha!) ambition of
going head to head with Lord Valve and winning just once, even a
little one (it's harder than you think), ask yourselves if you caught
that reference unaided. Those who did can be wits, perhaps even
writers; the rest will at best be audiophiles forever.

(2) sic; those who don't grasp the beauty of grammar, refer to Fowler



west May 28th 07 09:52 PM

The Worthless Wieckless trashroll of errors accelerates, was fa single ended stereo tube amp
 
Don't be so hard on your folks, Stevie ...they did the best they could.

west

"Steven" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 24, 8:25 pm, "west" wrote:
"Peter Wieck" wrote in message

oups.com...





On May 24, 5:13 pm, Andre Jute wrote:
John Byrns wrote:
In article

.com,
Peter Wieck wrote:


On May 24, 8:23 am, "hydebee" wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=150125684898


What makes you think this is "single-ended" and not PP? 2 x 6BQ5

and
that it is a Magnavox strongly suggests a PP configuration.


Peter, have you lost all your marbles, are you blind, or both?


Being bled out, as Worthless Wieckless was, robs the brain of blood
and thus oxygen. Result: zero thought (a familiar condition to
Wieckless!).


Add to that exsanguinated lassitude the distraction of being

knackered
into Wiecklessness, what Gray Glasser so delicately describes as the
"unmanning" (1) of Worthless (heh-heh, Gray, you learned a lot from
observing me a couple of years, in particular to go directly for the
bal-- I mean the jugular! LOL!), and you can see how the Worthless
trashroll of errors will pile up even faster from now onwards.


The photos show two input jacks, and two output transformers,

isn't
that
strongly suggestive of it being a stereo amp, in which case it

doesn't
have enough tubes for it to be anything but "single-ended", PP

would
require 4 x 6BQ5.


You reward might be in another world, John, but here on earth I've
long since given up explaining to Wieckless as a waste of time.


It isn't as if Worthless Wieckless, even before I bled him even

dumber
and then knackered him, were (2) even remotely knowledgeable. He
didn't know what ballasts do, he thought resistors dissipate to

their
power limit regardless of the actual amount of current through them,
he earlier gave another wretched display of mistaking an SE amp for
PP, and much, much more of his dire ignorance. Besides ignorance,
Wieckless is a nasty little ingrate whose idea of thanks is dully
unimaginative abuse liberally layered over his benefactor.


Regards,


John Byrns


--
Surf my web pages at, http://fmamradios.com/


Andre Jute
No real corpses were harmed in the assembly of my golem Worthless
Wieckless
-- CE Statement of Conformity


(1) Hey, Gray, I loved the double entendre of "unmanned" to imply

both
the fact that my golem Wieckless is a mule which cannot breed and
that, to make doubly sure the offal I stuffed into the sock to make
the puppet doesn't replicate to stink us out, I knocked the bricks

on
his testicles. For the rest of you, Gray considers words with leery
cynicism because that's his job, but those of you who have dreams of
being writers, or even stylists, or even the modest (ha!) ambition

of
going head to head with Lord Valve and winning just once, even a
little one (it's harder than you think), ask yourselves if you

caught
that reference unaided. Those who did can be wits, perhaps even
writers; the rest will at best be audiophiles forever.


(2) sic; those who don't grasp the beauty of grammar, refer to

Fowler

Ittsssssss BAAAAcccckkkk.....


I knew that it could not ever really 'leave the building'. That would
be too good to be true even in the most perfect of all worlds.


Hey, McCoy... we are all given to making mistakes. When will you admit
to your first?


I don't know when the Boss' first mistake was, but I know his latest one

....
that was not easing up on you when you obviously had enough. I bet your

dog
doesn't even recognize you anymore. Brutal, ugly, one sided massacre.

Take
my advice and please don't mess around anymore with the Boss or high
voltage...

west



Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Big, fractured gasbags without an earnest lick of talent. PAH




Peter Wieck May 29th 07 12:39 AM

Public Apology to Andre Jute - And the Reasons Why
 
On May 25, 11:45 pm, "Scott W. Harvey" wrote:
Peter Wieck wrote:

ethically, it is no mistake to apologize to a damaged

individual, especially when one discovers that the damage explains
almost entirely their otherwise incredibly inept, insane and deranged
behavior. I have often stated that Usenet requires a dry sense of
humor within the hide of a rhinocerous. Mr. Jute has neither, and that
is beyond his control. So, if I engage with him in the future, I have
to tone down the invective as he is afflicted with at least several of
the long-term results of a stroke...


Peter, I am curious as to why you chose to engage with this guy at all.

When these bizarre threads started showing up in RAR+P, It took the
reading of exactly one post to recognize that this guy was either a
troll giving an academy-award caliber performance, or someone more loopy
than all the rides at Magic Mountain put together. Either way, he isn't
someome I'd waste any time on.

-Scott


Scott:

Mr. Jute has fantasies and delusions of being a designer of
amplifiers, speakers and other similar items. He also is the very
first to pontificate on all things including audio, writing as if with
a finger of fire on stone tablets. Sadly, the writings are idiotic and
best and quite dangerous at worst. My engagement with him before I
fully realized his affliction was in an attempt to stear others clear
of him. At this point I only feel sorry for him, and have come to the
realization that his condition is quite obvious in most anything he
writes as well as in the character of those who gather about him in
like-minded behavior.

Perhaps it took longer than it should have, but there it is. At this
point, I feel nothing but pity for him... and a passing puzzlement on
how he fools even so few for so long. Jute cannot help himself... that
is clear, and that is enough.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Andre Jute May 29th 07 01:05 PM

Come on on guys, give Worthless Wieckless a chance, was Public Apology to Andre Jute - And the Reasons Why
 
Hey, Scott, since you're such a pal of the little netstalker Worthless
Wieckless aka Peter Wieck, why don't you ask him to prove his newly
invented contention that what I write is "idiotic and best and quite
dangerous at worst" (sic). All we've seen from Wieckless to me in the
18 months he has been on RAT is 211 personally abusive messages with
zero technical content, so I ignored him as merely another little
useless stalker trying to fatten up his own image by attacks on a
star. When after 18 months it was time to take him out, I merely
played by the rules Worthless Wieckless himself made which, as I
explained to Phil B, were about identity confusion. It would be most
amusing if you could persuade Worthless to come play the game by my
rules, which fall at the juncture (to you, "interface") of technology
and taste. Of course the little jumped-up janitor will be quashed
again in both technical and aesthetic discourse, but at least we'll
have a giggle in the process, and we can add to the entertainment with
bets on how long I can keep the darling little janitor in the game by
letting him think he's "winning" something.

Go on, Scott, don't just vegetate in the bleachers all your life, be a
player. Your reward for persuading Wieckless to stop running like a
frightened rabbit and come face the music (heh-heh, very appropriate
for an audio group!) will be the gratitude of the entire Circus
Maximus-- er, I mean RAT membership.

Andre "Finger of Fire" Jute
Visit Jute on Amps at http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/
STATUTORY DECLARATION
No real corpses were harmed in the assembly of Andre Jute's golem
Peter Wieck aka Worthless Wieckless --- CE Certificate of Conformity

Worthless Wieckless wrote:
On May 25, 11:45 pm, "Scott W. Harvey" wrote:
Peter Wieck wrote:

ethically, it is no mistake to apologize to a damaged

individual, especially when one discovers that the damage explains
almost entirely their otherwise incredibly inept, insane and deranged
behavior. I have often stated that Usenet requires a dry sense of
humor within the hide of a rhinocerous. Mr. Jute has neither, and that
is beyond his control. So, if I engage with him in the future, I have
to tone down the invective as he is afflicted with at least several of
the long-term results of a stroke...


Peter, I am curious as to why you chose to engage with this guy at all.

When these bizarre threads started showing up in RAR+P, It took the
reading of exactly one post to recognize that this guy was either a
troll giving an academy-award caliber performance, or someone more loopy
than all the rides at Magic Mountain put together. Either way, he isn't
someome I'd waste any time on.

-Scott


Scott:

Mr. Jute has fantasies and delusions of being a designer of
amplifiers, speakers and other similar items. He also is the very
first to pontificate on all things including audio, writing as if with
a finger of fire on stone tablets. Sadly, the writings are idiotic and
best and quite dangerous at worst. My engagement with him before I
fully realized his affliction was in an attempt to stear others clear
of him. At this point I only feel sorry for him, and have come to the
realization that his condition is quite obvious in most anything he
writes as well as in the character of those who gather about him in
like-minded behavior.

Perhaps it took longer than it should have, but there it is. At this
point, I feel nothing but pity for him... and a passing puzzlement on
how he fools even so few for so long. Jute cannot help himself... that
is clear, and that is enough.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA



John Byrns May 29th 07 02:08 PM

Come on on guys, give Worthless Wieckless a chance, was Public Apology to Andre Jute - And the Reasons Why
 
In article m,
Andre Jute wrote:

Hey, Scott, since you're such a pal of the little netstalker Worthless
Wieckless aka Peter Wieck, why don't you ask him to prove his newly
invented contention that what I write is "idiotic and best and quite
dangerous at worst" (sic). All we've seen from Wieckless to me in the
18 months he has been on RAT is 211 personally abusive messages with
zero technical content, so I ignored him as merely another little
useless stalker trying to fatten up his own image by attacks on a
star. When after 18 months it was time to take him out, I merely
played by the rules Worthless Wieckless himself made which, as I
explained to Phil B, were about identity confusion.


Hi Andre,

Notice that following his "apology" Wiecky has pretty much withdrawn
from posting, excepting a few weak defenses of his "apology". I suspect
that this stems from Peter's realization that he had shot himself in the
foot with his constant attacks on you, and that he had done his own
reputation more harm than he was able to do to you, his intended target.
Weakened from loss of blood due to the foot wound, and suffering from
extreme embarrassment as a result of his heavy handed attempts to
discredit you, he seems to have concocted his "apology" as an exit
strategy, and decided to lay low to give his reputation a chance to
recover.


Regards,

John Byrns

--
Surf my web pages at, http://fmamradios.com/

KE4ODD May 29th 07 03:35 PM

Come on on guys, give Worthless Wieckless a chance, was Public Apology to Andre Jute - And the Reasons Why
 
On Tue, 29 May 2007 09:08:36 -0500, John Byrns
wrote:

In article m,
Andre Jute wrote:

Hey, Scott, since you're such a pal of the little netstalker Worthless
Wieckless aka Peter Wieck, why don't you ask him to prove his newly
invented contention that what I write is "idiotic and best and quite
dangerous at worst" (sic). All we've seen from Wieckless to me in the
18 months he has been on RAT is 211 personally abusive messages with
zero technical content, so I ignored him as merely another little
useless stalker trying to fatten up his own image by attacks on a
star. When after 18 months it was time to take him out, I merely
played by the rules Worthless Wieckless himself made which, as I
explained to Phil B, were about identity confusion.


Hi Andre,

Notice that following his "apology" Wiecky has pretty much withdrawn
from posting, excepting a few weak defenses of his "apology". I suspect
that this stems from Peter's realization that he had shot himself in the
foot with his constant attacks on you, and that he had done his own
reputation more harm than he was able to do to you, his intended target.
Weakened from loss of blood due to the foot wound, and suffering from
extreme embarrassment as a result of his heavy handed attempts to
discredit you, he seems to have concocted his "apology" as an exit
strategy, and decided to lay low to give his reputation a chance to
recover.


Regards,

John Byrns



Maybe he is busy exploring the non business end of his mop handle?
__________________________________________________ __

For the folks that get confused when I post from different computers:

KE4ODD, Tracy Fort, Beerbarrel and whatever the hell else you want to call me are all the same person!....ME!


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