Hi
I am looking for a couple of sets of speakers. I need a set of
presence speakers and a set of surround speakers. They are for my
Kenwood separate system and they need to have an impedance of between
8 and 16 ohms and be capable of handling 25 watts. Any reasonable
suggestions please?

Ian

Ian Pollard wrote:

Hi
I am looking for a couple of sets of speakers. I need a set of
presence speakers

What do you mean by presence speakers ? In 40 years of involvement in audio I've
never heard the term.

Graham

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:27:43 +0100, Eeyore
wrote:



Ian Pollard wrote:

Hi
I am looking for a couple of sets of speakers. I need a set of
presence speakers

What do you mean by presence speakers ? In 40 years of involvement in audio I've
never heard the term.

Graham
Graham
Neither have I, I thought it was something new that I had not
yet discovered. I think they form part of a seven speaker system along
with two main speakers, two surround speakers and a sub-woofer. All
relatively new to me but that is not unusual!!

Ian

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:59:27 +0100, Ian Pollard
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:27:43 +0100, Eeyore
wrote:



Ian Pollard wrote:

Hi
I am looking for a couple of sets of speakers. I need a set of
presence speakers

What do you mean by presence speakers ? In 40 years of involvement in audio I've
never heard the term.

Graham
Graham
Neither have I, I thought it was something new that I had not
yet discovered. I think they form part of a seven speaker system along
with two main speakers, two surround speakers and a sub-woofer. All
relatively new to me but that is not unusual!!

It's a gimmick (although some people like it) because there's nothing
recorded for it. Surround speakers are another story but it would be
useful to know what receiver (probably a Yamaha), what main speakers
and what sub you have.

BTW, a good center channel is infinitely more useful than "presence"
speakers.

Kal

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:37:39 -0400, Kalman Rubinson
wrote:


It's a gimmick (although some people like it) because there's nothing
recorded for it. Surround speakers are another story but it would be
useful to know what receiver (probably a Yamaha), what main speakers
and what sub you have.

BTW, a good center channel is infinitely more useful than "presence"
speakers.

Kal

Kal
The whole setup is Kenwood and I am looking at a SW700
subwoofer on Ebay at the moment. I was more keen on going for the sub
woofer and surround sound speakers,but had never heard of presence
speakers before.

Ian

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:59:35 GMT, Bob Latham
wrote:

In article ,
Kalman Rubinson wrote:

BTW, a good center channel is infinitely more useful than "presence"
speakers.

Interesting. That's exactly the opposite of my experience. I have a 4.0
system at the moment and have tried numerous centre speakers from Kef and
B/W and in every case I disliked the result and returned the speaker.

The vast majority of so-called dedicated center speakers are poor
designs. Ever wonder why they are horizontal and do not look like the
speakers used for stereo or the main L/R speakers in HT? That is
because they are designed to fit under (over) a TV and appear, by
their shape, as if they have a wide horizontal dispersion. In fact,
they have, in general, worse and more uneven horizontal dispersion
than normal speakers. The laws of physics that impose themselves on
speaker design apply equally well to all positions.

In my experience, I use three identical speakers across the front in
order to get the best and most uniform sound quality.

I find my existing front speakers have such good dispersion that I don't
have a hole in the middle and a centre speaker contributes very little.

It may, indeed, be better than having a real center, depending on your
setup and needs. However, with sources that have a discrete center
signal, particularly SACD and DVD-A music discs, the "phantom" center
is not nearly as good as a (good) real one.

Surround speakers on the other hand add a great deal to both concerts and
movies.

Agreed.

IMHO of course but I suspect this depends on your room and system and
personal preferences.

Agreed.

Kal

In article ,
Bob Latham wrote:
BTW, a good center channel is infinitely more useful than "presence"
speakers.

Interesting. That's exactly the opposite of my experience. I have a 4.0
system at the moment and have tried numerous centre speakers from Kef and
B/W and in every case I disliked the result and returned the speaker. I
find my existing front speakers have such good dispersion that I don't
have a hole in the middle and a centre speaker contributes very little.

AOL. I tried just about every one on the market but couldn't find one that
integrated seamlessly with my main speakers. Although an LS 3/5a did - but
had too strong an external magnetic field for the TV. I sort of concluded
that they were all somewhat less than flat like much 'home cinema' stuff.

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