Having a major purge. First batch:

http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZpatchoulian

Lots of interest in the Systemdek - I didn't notice it had a concave
platter, oh dear.

10% discount to UKRAite winning bidders who collect from Sheffield.

Rob

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 08:45:38 +0100, Rob wrote:

Having a major purge. First batch:

http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZpatchoulian

Lots of interest in the Systemdek - I didn't notice it had a concave
platter, oh dear.

10% discount to UKRAite winning bidders who collect from Sheffield.

Rob

The concave platter is no problem (I have one of these). What it means
is that even fairly badly buckled records flatten out nicely when you
put the clamp on. Very nice deck.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Don Pearce wrote:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 08:45:38 +0100, Rob wrote:

Having a major purge. First batch:

http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZpatchoulian

Lots of interest in the Systemdek - I didn't notice it had a concave
platter, oh dear.

10% discount to UKRAite winning bidders who collect from Sheffield.

Rob

The concave platter is no problem (I have one of these). What it means
is that even fairly badly buckled records flatten out nicely when you
put the clamp on. Very nice deck.

d


Yes, but I haven't got the clamp to go with it unfortunately.

I have to say I'm not that impressed - it's simply (to my eye) a beefed
up IIX. No bad thing, but I wasn't able to get the openness/focus I've
experienced with the Project RPM9 or a Pink Triangle LPT for example,
and the bouncy suspension got on my nerves. Sales pitch over :-)

Rob

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 11:02:09 +0100, Rob wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 08:45:38 +0100, Rob wrote:

Having a major purge. First batch:

http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZpatchoulian

Lots of interest in the Systemdek - I didn't notice it had a concave
platter, oh dear.

10% discount to UKRAite winning bidders who collect from Sheffield.

Rob

The concave platter is no problem (I have one of these). What it means
is that even fairly badly buckled records flatten out nicely when you
put the clamp on. Very nice deck.

d


Yes, but I haven't got the clamp to go with it unfortunately.

I have to say I'm not that impressed - it's simply (to my eye) a beefed
up IIX. No bad thing, but I wasn't able to get the openness/focus I've
experienced with the Project RPM9 or a Pink Triangle LPT for example,
and the bouncy suspension got on my nerves. Sales pitch over :-)

Rob

Bouncy suspensions are good! Well, not the bouncy bit, perhaps, but
the lowpass frequency of that system is admirably low and it is that
which makes it all a bit floppy. When the deck has a lid though, you
don't see it, so who cares?

No idea what openness and focus mean, I'm afraid; as far as I know
they aren't manageable by record decks - if they are there, they have
been put into the records by the artist.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Don Pearce wrote:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 11:02:09 +0100, Rob wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 08:45:38 +0100, Rob wrote:

Having a major purge. First batch:

http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZpatchoulian

Lots of interest in the Systemdek - I didn't notice it had a concave
platter, oh dear.

10% discount to UKRAite winning bidders who collect from Sheffield.

Rob
The concave platter is no problem (I have one of these). What it means
is that even fairly badly buckled records flatten out nicely when you
put the clamp on. Very nice deck.

d

Yes, but I haven't got the clamp to go with it unfortunately.

I have to say I'm not that impressed - it's simply (to my eye) a beefed
up IIX. No bad thing, but I wasn't able to get the openness/focus I've
experienced with the Project RPM9 or a Pink Triangle LPT for example,
and the bouncy suspension got on my nerves. Sales pitch over :-)

Rob

Bouncy suspensions are good! Well, not the bouncy bit, perhaps, but
the lowpass frequency of that system is admirably low and it is that
which makes it all a bit floppy. When the deck has a lid though, you
don't see it, so who cares?


It was cueing that bothered me. I take what you say about lowpass
frequencies, and advanatges that go with it. The deck is on a wall
mounted stand if that makes a difference. It's just that i've got to a
point in life where I want things to work the way I like, even if that
does mean compromised sound. On which

No idea what openness and focus mean, I'm afraid; as far as I know
they aren't manageable by record decks - if they are there, they have
been put into the records by the artist.


I don't know how to express the sound in any other way. Even if I had
the machine/capacity I'm not sure a measurement would reveal what I
(think I) experience. In fairness I doubt I put as much time as I should
towards setting it up properly.

Incidentally, changing the ball bearing helped the platter spin freely -
from 2 minutes (old) to 5 minutes (new). Easy enough to get from bike
shops, but if you or anyone want one let me know (FOC).

Rob

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 13:24:13 +0100, Rob wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 11:02:09 +0100, Rob wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 08:45:38 +0100, Rob wrote:

Having a major purge. First batch:

http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZpatchoulian

Lots of interest in the Systemdek - I didn't notice it had a concave
platter, oh dear.

10% discount to UKRAite winning bidders who collect from Sheffield.

Rob
The concave platter is no problem (I have one of these). What it means
is that even fairly badly buckled records flatten out nicely when you
put the clamp on. Very nice deck.

d

Yes, but I haven't got the clamp to go with it unfortunately.

I have to say I'm not that impressed - it's simply (to my eye) a beefed
up IIX. No bad thing, but I wasn't able to get the openness/focus I've
experienced with the Project RPM9 or a Pink Triangle LPT for example,
and the bouncy suspension got on my nerves. Sales pitch over :-)

Rob

Bouncy suspensions are good! Well, not the bouncy bit, perhaps, but
the lowpass frequency of that system is admirably low and it is that
which makes it all a bit floppy. When the deck has a lid though, you
don't see it, so who cares?


It was cueing that bothered me. I take what you say about lowpass
frequencies, and advanatges that go with it. The deck is on a wall
mounted stand if that makes a difference. It's just that i've got to a
point in life where I want things to work the way I like, even if that
does mean compromised sound. On which

Really? I've not had any problems with that (SME 3009 arm). Maybe mine
is just a little better damped than yours.

No idea what openness and focus mean, I'm afraid; as far as I know
they aren't manageable by record decks - if they are there, they have
been put into the records by the artist.


I don't know how to express the sound in any other way. Even if I had
the machine/capacity I'm not sure a measurement would reveal what I
(think I) experience. In fairness I doubt I put as much time as I should
towards setting it up properly.

I set mine up properly a year or two ago. It took perhaps half a day.

Incidentally, changing the ball bearing helped the platter spin freely -
from 2 minutes (old) to 5 minutes (new). Easy enough to get from bike
shops, but if you or anyone want one let me know (FOC).

Thanks, but mine is freely spinning right now.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

"Rob" wrote in message
...
Having a major purge. First batch:

http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZpatchoulian

Lots of interest in the Systemdek - I didn't notice it had a concave
platter, oh dear.

10% discount to UKRAite winning bidders who collect from Sheffield.


Good luck with those, they don't look bad prices so far - for this
(immediate post-holiday 'skint') period!

I also have a cupboard overflowing with dupes and spares but I'm well
off eBay these days; I put a couple of items up for sale some weeks back
but got so fed up with the 'offroaders' and timewasters I ended up
pulling both the auctions - it cost me nearly 30 quid to keep my own
kit!!!

I'm also starting to sweat that the dodgy valve mic I returned a few
days ago could turn into a 'Ooh, it didn't arrive could you claim the
insurance from the Post Office?' scam!!

We'll see....

"Keith G" wrote

blah blah blah


I'm also starting to sweat that the dodgy valve mic I returned a few
days ago could turn into a 'Ooh, it didn't arrive could you claim the
insurance from the Post Office?' scam!!

We'll see....



I should add: What's irritating me is that my instincts were to keep
that mic* and have a fiddle with it to see if I could have made summat
of it. It would have been a good *hands on* learning opportunity (the
way I like it) and it wasn't a whole lot of money for a fair amount of
quite good-looking, *possibly fixable* kit, even if it had needed the
innards radically changed!

(Too late now, but I reckon a check for dry joints in the PS and to swap
the valve in the mic might have put me on the right road...??)


*Given that the Seller's real name didn't inspire me with confidence and
a 'the mic didn't arrive' response will *not* surprise me...

On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 14:58:07 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

I should add: What's irritating me is that my instincts were to keep
that mic* and have a fiddle with it to see if I could have made summat
of it. It would have been a good *hands on* learning opportunity (the
way I like it) and it wasn't a whole lot of money for a fair amount of
quite good-looking, *possibly fixable* kit, even if it had needed the
innards radically changed!

(Too late now, but I reckon a check for dry joints in the PS and to swap
the valve in the mic might have put me on the right road...??)


Well, I got curious and ordered one too. Mine works OK. Not
necessarily any better than a £50 Samson. But it's quiet, and it's
fun playing with the 3 pickup patterns. The tube seems completely
irrelevent. On cardiod setting, it sounds almost exactly the same as
my Rode NT1. My test recordings unfortunately are dominated by the
noisy key-action of my old Bechstein upright piano. I find it very
hard to judge technicalities through poor source material, so I won't
ask you to! I've also played with it on a female voice. Quite an
interesting sound using in omni mode it next to the NT1, feeding R & L
channels (I'd hesitate to call this setup "stereo":-). But, again,
though the client's pleased with the result, she's actually so
out-of-tune that the material would get in the way of your judgement.
Let's wait for a better example to turn up.

Are these the same mics Thomann are selling under their The T.Bone
label?
http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_tbone_sct2000.htm



*Given that the Seller's real name didn't inspire me with confidence and
a 'the mic didn't arrive' response will *not* surprise me...

What, payam.kassiri? Do you know something about him, or is this
purely racism? :-)

"Laurence Payne" NOSPAMlpayne1ATdsl.pipex.com wrote in message
...
On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 14:58:07 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


(Too late now, but I reckon a check for dry joints in the PS and to
swap
the valve in the mic might have put me on the right road...??)


Well, I got curious and ordered one too. Mine works OK. Not
necessarily any better than a £50 Samson. But it's quiet, and it's
fun playing with the 3 pickup patterns.


Yes, that's really what I wanted...


The tube seems completely
irrelevent.


And to find that out for myself also - I have since bought another one
(not arrived yet):

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWN:IT&ih=011

....and am hoping, having gone a little further up the ladder
*pricewise*, that it'll be OK. I already have a pair of CAD mics and
they are perfectly fine for *cheepies*!


On cardiod setting, it sounds almost exactly the same as
my Rode NT1. My test recordings unfortunately are dominated by the
noisy key-action of my old Bechstein upright piano.


Tell me about it - now I've got to sort out a squeaky pedal:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/SqueakyPedal.mp3


I find it very
hard to judge technicalities through poor source material, so I won't
ask you to! I've also played with it on a female voice. Quite an
interesting sound using in omni mode it next to the NT1, feeding R & L
channels (I'd hesitate to call this setup "stereo":-). But, again,
though the client's pleased with the result, she's actually so
out-of-tune that the material would get in the way of your judgement.
Let's wait for a better example to turn up.


Always interested in a bit of Show N Tell!



Are these the same mics Thomann are selling under their The T.Bone
label?
http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_tbone_sct2000.htm



That mic's not like the one I had but the PS could be:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/ValveMic.JPG




*Given that the Seller's real name didn't inspire me with confidence
and
a 'the mic didn't arrive' response will *not* surprise me...

What, payam.kassiri? Do you know something about him, or is this
purely racism? :-)


Purely racism - based on absolutely *no experience whatsoever* of having
been fleeced by anyone 'not of these shores' but having witnessed much
'scallywaggery' in the workplace from such visitors from the 'Land Of
The Airborne Axminster'....

(Ignore me - I posted my fears in the same manner that G.H.Hardy would
take sweaters and an umbrella to a cricket match to ensure good weather!
I'll post again to say so, if the 'lost parcel' scam doesn't happen!!
:-)