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Old September 8th 07, 04:58 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Laurence Payne
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On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 16:53:37 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Purely racism - based on absolutely *no experience whatsoever* of having
been fleeced by anyone 'not of these shores' but having witnessed much
'scallywaggery' in the workplace from such visitors from the 'Land Of
The Airborne Axminster'....


God! What a lot of euphemisms and circumlocutions! If you mean "I
suspect he may be a thieving Wog" why not say so?
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Old September 8th 07, 06:46 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Laurence Payne" NOSPAMlpayne1ATdsl.pipex.com wrote in message
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On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 16:53:37 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Purely racism - based on absolutely *no experience whatsoever* of
having
been fleeced by anyone 'not of these shores' but having witnessed much
'scallywaggery' in the workplace from such visitors from the 'Land Of
The Airborne Axminster'....


God! What a lot of euphemisms and circumlocutions! If you mean "I
suspect he may be a thieving Wog" why not say so?



Because it's not really my style, but I guess it could come to that -
just in and nowt yet....

:-/





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Old September 8th 07, 07:23 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Laurence Payne
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On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 16:53:37 +0100, "Keith G"
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Always interested in a bit of Show N Tell!


OK. Try this then. I've done some pitch-correction now. That's all
I'm doing, she isn't paying enough to spend any more time on it :-)

One side of the vocal's the Chinese tube mic on omni. Other's an NT1.
Which is which? Well, maybe you CAN'T tell solid-state from tube,
Rode from generic Chinese :-)

Her song's called "Maybe in the morning".

www.bricklanemusichall.co.uk/show/show.html
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Old September 8th 07, 07:35 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:23:32 +0100, Laurence Payne
NOSPAMlpayne1ATdsl.pipex.com wrote:

On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 16:53:37 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Always interested in a bit of Show N Tell!


OK. Try this then. I've done some pitch-correction now. That's all
I'm doing, she isn't paying enough to spend any more time on it :-)

One side of the vocal's the Chinese tube mic on omni. Other's an NT1.
Which is which? Well, maybe you CAN'T tell solid-state from tube,
Rode from generic Chinese :-)

Her song's called "Maybe in the morning".

www.bricklanemusichall.co.uk/show/show.html


If the only difference between the two channels is the vocal mic, then
I have to tell you that the left one is broken. It has some serious
problems.

d

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Old September 8th 07, 08:58 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Laurence Payne
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 19:35:45 GMT, (Don Pearce)
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Her song's called "Maybe in the morning".

www.bricklanemusichall.co.uk/show/show.html

If the only difference between the two channels is the vocal mic, then
I have to tell you that the left one is broken. It has some serious
problems.


What are you hearing? It's a stereo mix, not a dual-mono
demonstration. There's plenty of differences between the channels.
But one contains one mic, one the other.

If you're getting glitches, download the whole file and play it from
your computer. It doesn't work at all well for me streaming.
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Old September 8th 07, 09:09 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 21:58:54 +0100, Laurence Payne
NOSPAMlpayne1ATdsl.pipex.com wrote:

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 19:35:45 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

Her song's called "Maybe in the morning".

www.bricklanemusichall.co.uk/show/show.html

If the only difference between the two channels is the vocal mic, then
I have to tell you that the left one is broken. It has some serious
problems.


What are you hearing? It's a stereo mix, not a dual-mono
demonstration. There's plenty of differences between the channels.
But one contains one mic, one the other.

If you're getting glitches, download the whole file and play it from
your computer. It doesn't work at all well for me streaming.


I did download it. What I'm hearing is something high and whistly on
the left. In terms of the mic sound itself, the right hand one is a
bit brighter. This is all much easier with unaccompanied vocal, and of
course the tuning homogenizes the sound enormously.

d

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Old September 8th 07, 09:28 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Laurence Payne" NOSPAMlpayne1ATdsl.pipex.com wrote in message
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On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 16:53:37 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Always interested in a bit of Show N Tell!


OK. Try this then. I've done some pitch-correction now. That's all
I'm doing, she isn't paying enough to spend any more time on it :-)

One side of the vocal's the Chinese tube mic on omni. Other's an NT1.
Which is which? Well, maybe you CAN'T tell solid-state from tube,
Rode from generic Chinese :-)

Her song's called "Maybe in the morning".

www.bricklanemusichall.co.uk/show/show.html



Most interesting. Poor cow's got to follow Anna Netrebko (I'm on a Prom
break) so she's got no chance but a super bit of S&T!

I think I can tell the difference (chalk and cheese) but I'm afraid I
prefer the left channel and I'm certain it's the valve.

Goto the current end of the thread for my method....


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Old September 8th 07, 09:37 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 21:58:54 +0100, Laurence Payne
NOSPAMlpayne1ATdsl.pipex.com wrote:

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 19:35:45 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

Her song's called "Maybe in the morning".

www.bricklanemusichall.co.uk/show/show.html

If the only difference between the two channels is the vocal mic,
then
I have to tell you that the left one is broken. It has some serious
problems.


What are you hearing? It's a stereo mix, not a dual-mono
demonstration. There's plenty of differences between the channels.
But one contains one mic, one the other.

If you're getting glitches, download the whole file and play it from
your computer. It doesn't work at all well for me streaming.


I did download it. What I'm hearing is something high and whistly on
the left. In terms of the mic sound itself, the right hand one is a
bit brighter. This is all much easier with unaccompanied vocal, and of
course the tuning homogenizes the sound enormously.



I downloaded it and split the channels into two mono tracks - here are
short snippets:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...%20Channel.mp3

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...%20Channel.mp3


The differences are chalk and cheese and I prefer the Left Channel.
(Swim prefers the Right, but there ya go!)

Compared with the Left Channel, the Right has no treble (air, if you
like) and there are very high notes that are so recessed they are almost
completely missing (at 1 and 3 seconds in and various thereafter), the
voice sounds richer but is somewhat lost in the mix and the backing is
almost a monotone. The Left Channel wins by a mile in my book!

I'll get me coat....

(And finish the Proms!! :-)




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Old September 8th 07, 09:45 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce
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On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 22:37:55 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

I downloaded it and split the channels into two mono tracks - here are
short snippets:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...%20Channel.mp3

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...%20Channel.mp3


The differences are chalk and cheese and I prefer the Left Channel.
(Swim prefers the Right, but there ya go!)

Compared with the Left Channel, the Right has no treble (air, if you
like) and there are very high notes that are so recessed they are almost
completely missing (at 1 and 3 seconds in and various thereafter), the
voice sounds richer but is somewhat lost in the mix and the backing is
almost a monotone. The Left Channel wins by a mile in my book!

I'll get me coat....

(And finish the Proms!! :-)




I know the channels are very different, and the left sounds brighter
(and has the whistly stuff going on), but I think the right hand
*vocal* is a bit brighter. Trouble is the fine detail that really
tells you is necessarily buried in the backing.

d

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Old September 8th 07, 09:46 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Keith G" wrote

voice sounds richer but is somewhat lost in the mix


Delete that - on a last listen over the speakers I don't think it is
lost and Swim thinks the Left Channel is 'smoothed over'....




 




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