CDs have a clarity to the sound that beats even the best LPs.

David.


In most I would agree. Some CDs are remarkably better, it's amazing what you
can hear on some compared to the vinyl equivalent. For me tho' clarity alone
does not make CD a prefered format.

As much as I play CDs now I still find vinyl very alluring & involving. A
good recording can have me almost mesmerized.

Steve

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:33:30 -0000, "David Looser"
wrote:

, I have a
1950s Bush TV22 in my den which I sometimes fire up so that I can watch TV
in wonderful 405-line monochrome, though I don't try to pretend that it's
better than a modern colour TV!

In what country is that? 405-line transmissions were switched off
over 20 years ago in the UK!

Serge Auckland wrote:

I just like old turntables. I now have an AEG TRS9000 with Audio Technica
AT33ML cartridge, an EMT 948 with EMT TSD15 vdh cartridge, a GL75 with
Goldring 1042 cartridge, and my christmas present to myself, a Garrard 401
with SME 3009 and Shure V15III with brand new original Micro-Ridge stylus.
There's a story to the 401.... When I went to University in 1968, my mother
promised me a 401. However, as I had a very draughty convertible Hillman
Minx, and she thought a sheepskin coat would make much better use of the
money than a 401, so she bought me that instead. I have to say, that she was
probably right, the coat was a lot warmer than a 401, but then, you can't
play records on a coat, and that was probably more important to me as a
student. It's taken me almost 40 years to get the 401.

Funnily enough, my 401 was a Christmas present.

Graham

Laurence Payne wrote:

"David Looser" wrote:

, I have a
1950s Bush TV22 in my den which I sometimes fire up so that I can watch TV
in wonderful 405-line monochrome, though I don't try to pretend that it's
better than a modern colour TV!

In what country is that? 405-line transmissions were switched off
over 20 years ago in the UK!

Might he have an ancient 405 line VTR to go with it ?

Graham

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , David Looser
scribeth thus

I have a
1950s Bush TV22 in my den which I sometimes fire up so that I can watch TV
in wonderful 405-line monochrome, though I don't try to pretend that it's
better than a modern colour TV!

You manage to pick up an old 405 line TX then?.

And standards converter;?...


I built myself a digital line-store standards converter back in the 1980s
after the 405-line transmitter network was switched off. This feeds a
modulator based around a couple of MC1496 multiplier chips (one each for
vision and sound) which operates on Ch1 (45MHz Vision, 41.5MHz sound).

David.

In article , David Looser
scribeth thus
"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , David Looser
scribeth thus

I have a
1950s Bush TV22 in my den which I sometimes fire up so that I can watch TV
in wonderful 405-line monochrome, though I don't try to pretend that it's
better than a modern colour TV!

You manage to pick up an old 405 line TX then?.

And standards converter;?...


I built myself a digital line-store standards converter back in the 1980s
after the 405-line transmitter network was switched off. This feeds a
modulator based around a couple of MC1496 multiplier chips (one each for
vision and sound) which operates on Ch1 (45MHz Vision, 41.5MHz sound).

David.

And have you got a "H" type or "X" type aerial on your chimney;?...



--
Tony Sayer

Fleetie wrote:
I've just plonked some Castle Harlech* speakers in my front room - they shouldn't work, but on a lot of music they sound
splendid.
What DON'T they sound splendid on? Can you analyse why?
Any pop/rock that sounds edgy/sibilant at the mid/top end - the Castles seem to exaggerate it. Classical sounds superb, on the
other hand, even relatively shrill strings. It's difficult for me to tell whether they're simply showing up bad recordings or
source, or they're 'tuned' that way. Also, when loud, the sound is simply uncomfortable and exaggerates this effect. I wouldn't
say distorted, more 'shouty'. They've taken the place of some Dynaudio Contour 1.1s, which never had these traits - so I'd
conclude the Castles have a tendency towards edgy treble. The bass, while a little uneven at times ('inaccurate'), is plentiful
and enjoyable.

Why did you replace the Dynaudios with Castles? Anything wrong with the
former? What did you do with them?


I've been curious about these particular Castles for a while, with the
driver on top. I thought I'd give them a try, and the price was such
that I can just punt them along if I don't want them. In fact the
Castles have been relegated upstairs, where they sound pretty good, but
it is a bigger room:

http://patchoulian.googlepages.com/study

Nothing wrong with the Dynaudios - at all.

Difficult to tell whether they're here to stay. I've found some music sounds astounding, good as I've heard - well recorded pop
(Pink Floyd, say)

OI! GET YOUR FILTHY HANDS OFF MY DESERT!
What d'he say?

************* !!!


I do believe he said something along those lines.

Sorry.


No worries :-)


Martin

"Stevie Boy" wrote in message
...

CDs have a clarity to the sound that beats even the best LPs.

David.


In most I would agree. Some CDs are remarkably better, it's amazing what
you can hear on some compared to the vinyl equivalent. For me tho' clarity
alone does not make CD a prefered format.

As much as I play CDs now I still find vinyl very alluring & involving. A
good recording can have me almost mesmerized.


OK, that's an interesting statement - what do you think of these
near-identical clips (one CD, the other vinyl)?

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/MilesA.mp3

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/MilesB.mp3


Do you have a clear preference?

Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Stevie Boy" wrote in message
...

CDs have a clarity to the sound that beats even the best LPs.

David.


In most I would agree. Some CDs are remarkably better, it's amazing what
you can hear on some compared to the vinyl equivalent. For me tho'
clarity alone does not make CD a prefered format.

As much as I play CDs now I still find vinyl very alluring & involving. A
good recording can have me almost mesmerized.


OK, that's an interesting statement - what do you think of these
near-identical clips (one CD, the other vinyl)?

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/MilesA.mp3

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/MilesB.mp3


Do you have a clear preference?


Miles A is a lot cleaner, much lower distortion on the highs, so I assume it
to be the CD. Sounds much nicer to me.Miles B is also a fair bit louder and
sounds compressed in comparison with A. Interestingly, the frequency
spectrum of A cuts off very rapidly at 16k whilst B goes on to 21k. I assume
therefore that A is CD, and the relatively limited bandwidth is a function
of the original tapes, whilt B is vinyl, and the very top is just noise.

S.

http://audiopages.googlepages.com

"Serge Auckland" wrote in message
...
Keith G" wrote



OK, that's an interesting statement - what do you think of these
near-identical clips (one CD, the other vinyl)?

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/MilesA.mp3

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/MilesB.mp3


Do you have a clear preference?


Miles A is a lot cleaner, much lower distortion on the highs, so I assume
it to be the CD. Sounds much nicer to me.Miles B is also a fair bit louder
and sounds compressed in comparison with A. Interestingly, the frequency
spectrum of A cuts off very rapidly at 16k whilst B goes on to 21k. I
assume therefore that A is CD, and the relatively limited bandwidth is a
function of the original tapes, whilt B is vinyl, and the very top is just
noise.


You are right - A is the CD. (I 'normalised' both those clips to -16 dB and
that's what comes out - Gawd knows what's going on in the software!) Also,
the vinyl clip was my first attempt at recording to this (Vista) laptop and
it was a nightmare!

The CD clip exhibits the 'clarity' (lack of noise floor) that is often
associated with CD, but it simply sounds *shouty* to me and the percussion
is brittle when compared with the vinyl. Disregarding *measurements* for
this purpose and using only my ears, once again, I prefer the vinyl (what
new?) by, er, *miles*!! (Oops :-)

Ya pays yer money....

(Except in this case I did for *both* the CD and LP....!! ;-)