"Eeyore" wrote in
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Arny Krueger wrote:

There is no chance that there is anything wrong with the
sound of the CD format since it is sonically transparent.

No help to those who actively seek colouration though.
Same as valve amps. The two ( liking valves and LPs)
seem to go hand-in-hand which strongly suggests to me
that those people like a strongly coloured sound.

I think that sentimentality, a desire to be different for the sake of being
different, and gettting attention is behind most of the adamant LP
preference we see expressed around here.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Eeyore" wrote in
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Arny Krueger wrote:

There is no chance that there is anything wrong with the
sound of the CD format since it is sonically transparent.

No help to those who actively seek colouration though.
Same as valve amps. The two ( liking valves and LPs)
seem to go hand-in-hand which strongly suggests to me
that those people like a strongly coloured sound.

I think that sentimentality, a desire to be different for the sake of
being different, and gettting attention is behind most of the adamant LP
preference we see expressed around here.

Add to that a liking for horn loudspeakers, and we have the triumvirate -
vinyl-valves-horns. Coloration rules OK?
S.


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Keith G wrote:

"Bob Latham" wrote

If you guys say so. I would say enormous numbers of people prefer LPs
to
Cds.

Sure - the majority of people I know (who care about music) do....

Are they all very old people like you ?


First time I've been called 'very old'! :-)

Anyway, no - one of them is my son!


Maybe their hearing loss is masking some
of the more obvious defects ?


In the case of my son, his kit (Technics/B&W) masks any differences between
CD and LP but he prefers *playing* the LPs and is a collector of various
types of vinyl specialities (picture discs, promos &c.)...

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Keith G wrote:

but let's not forget the far superior 'information carrying' capacity of
CDs -
the average LP lasts approximately 7 minutes per side;

Uh ? More like 20 mins IIRC.


the average music CD lasts 3 days....

Anything that plays for 3 days ISN'T an audio *CD* ! An audio CD is
limited to ~
50 mins.


To paraphrase Judge Judy: Your looks, voice and mental ability will fade
eventually, but *dumb* is for life...

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Eeyore" wrote in
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Keith G wrote:

but let's not forget the far superior 'information
carrying' capacity of CDs - the average LP lasts
approximately 7 minutes per side;

Uh ? More like 20 mins IIRC.

Agreed. Except that LPs are generally so bad that it is questionable
whether you can call the corrupted mess that can be recovered from them
*music*.


Catch a grip, Arny....

"Eiron" wrote in message
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Eeyore wrote:

I HAVE heard bad CD players such as the original Sony CDP-101. It souded
'harsh'
to me (one can speculate over what casued that) and I was convinced that
reverberation was being truncated (although that could have been the
result of
flawed mastering).

Me too. I never discovered whether it was my neighbour's CDP-101, the
'Realistic'
amp and speakers or the 1980's music but something gave me a headache.


Hmm, spoilt for choice there...


Perhaps he's still got it in the junk box; it would be interesting to
find out how bad it was.


Then you could stick pins in your eyes to round the evening off....

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Eeyore" wrote in
message
Arny Krueger wrote:

There is no chance that there is anything wrong with the
sound of the CD format since it is sonically transparent.

No help to those who actively seek colouration though.
Same as valve amps. The two ( liking valves and LPs)
seem to go hand-in-hand which strongly suggests to me
that those people like a strongly coloured sound.

I think that sentimentality, a desire to be different for the sake of
being different, and gettting attention is behind most of the adamant LP
preference we see expressed around here.


Catch a grip, Arny....

"Serge Auckland" wrote in message
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Eeyore" wrote in
message
Arny Krueger wrote:

There is no chance that there is anything wrong with the
sound of the CD format since it is sonically transparent.

No help to those who actively seek colouration though.
Same as valve amps. The two ( liking valves and LPs)
seem to go hand-in-hand which strongly suggests to me
that those people like a strongly coloured sound.

I think that sentimentality, a desire to be different for the sake of
being different, and gettting attention is behind most of the adamant LP
preference we see expressed around here.

Add to that a liking for horn loudspeakers, and we have the triumvirate -
vinyl-valves-horns. Coloration rules OK?


Make that the 'Holy Trinity' and *natural sound* rules OK and we, for once,
could well be in accord, Serge!

;-)

Keith G wrote:

"Eiron" wrote in message
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Eeyore wrote:

I HAVE heard bad CD players such as the original Sony CDP-101. It
souded 'harsh'
to me (one can speculate over what casued that) and I was convinced
that
reverberation was being truncated (although that could have been the
result of
flawed mastering).

Me too. I never discovered whether it was my neighbour's CDP-101, the
'Realistic'
amp and speakers or the 1980's music but something gave me a headache.


Hmm, spoilt for choice there...


Perhaps he's still got it in the junk box; it would be interesting to
find out how bad it was.


Then you could stick pins in your eyes to round the evening off....

Pins in the eyes or listening to Howard Jones and a-ha. A difficult choice.

--
Eiron.

Serge Auckland wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Eeyore" wrote in
message
Arny Krueger wrote:

There is no chance that there is anything wrong with the
sound of the CD format since it is sonically transparent.
No help to those who actively seek colouration though.
Same as valve amps. The two ( liking valves and LPs)
seem to go hand-in-hand which strongly suggests to me
that those people like a strongly coloured sound.
I think that sentimentality, a desire to be different for the sake of
being different, and gettting attention is behind most of the adamant LP
preference we see expressed around here.

Add to that a liking for horn loudspeakers, and we have the triumvirate -
vinyl-valves-horns. Coloration rules OK?

They're not real horns.

--
Eiron.