In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
Woody wrote:
You won't like DAB quality, believe me.

For R3?

DAB in many cases will provide far better sound quality than FM on R3.


We won't go into that one again Dave what abaht the other radio services
from the BBC eh?.

And there are difference betwixt R 3 on DAB and via sat and freeview
course its all supposed to be the same..
--
Tony Sayer

In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
You won't like DAB quality, believe me.

For R3?

DAB in many cases will provide far better sound quality than FM on R3.


We won't go into that one again Dave what abaht the other radio services
from the BBC eh?.

The OP specifically mentioned R3. And only R3.

--
*What happens if you get scared half to death twice? *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
Adrian C wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
It is ok. Most who go on about 'DAB quality' base it on listening to a
portable or whatever. Or simple prejudice.


DAB only sounds good on Radio 3 it seems...

R4 is fine too. And Magic. And R7. They are about the only other stations
I listen to off DAB

Some people who mostly listen to Radio 3 are prejudiced against
listening to other types of music, so don't appreciate how badly how UK
DAB mangles up the content of other music stations out there, and these
people are those in the higher classes of society with a chequebook to
put this right.... but they won't.

UK DAB is the laughing stock of the world.

I think the rest of the world has got more important things to laugh about.

--
*A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
Adrian C wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
It is ok. Most who go on about 'DAB quality' base it on listening to a
portable or whatever. Or simple prejudice.


DAB only sounds good on Radio 3 it seems...

R4 is fine too. And Magic. And R7. They are about the only other stations
I listen to off DAB

Radio 4 sounds OK?.. Hearing tests anyone?...

Some people who mostly listen to Radio 3 are prejudiced against
listening to other types of music, so don't appreciate how badly how UK
DAB mangles up the content of other music stations out there, and these
people are those in the higher classes of society with a chequebook to
put this right.... but they won't.

UK DAB is the laughing stock of the world.

I think the rest of the world has got more important things to laugh about.

Well its a bloody good/poor start;(.

Can anyone answer why it is that even on Satellite where bit space isn't
a problem can the BBC only afford 192 K, whereas a respected German
broadcaster like Bayern has 320 K for all of its mainline music channels
and only uses 128 K, the DAB -standard- rate, for a news info
service?.......
--
Tony Sayer

In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
You won't like DAB quality, believe me.

For R3?

DAB in many cases will provide far better sound quality than FM on R3.


We won't go into that one again Dave what abaht the other radio services
from the BBC eh?.

The OP specifically mentioned R3. And only R3.

And pray why should radio 3 be more deserving?..

For instance.. do they have inferior equipment in the studios?...
--
Tony Sayer

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:38:02 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
You won't like DAB quality, believe me.

For R3?

DAB in many cases will provide far better sound quality than FM on R3.


We won't go into that one again Dave what abaht the other radio services
from the BBC eh?.

The OP specifically mentioned R3. And only R3.

And pray why should radio 3 be more deserving?..

For instance.. do they have inferior equipment in the studios?...

It could be argued that R3 needs less. It is much easier to perform
data compression on a signal with a natural dynamic than a heavily
dynamics-compressed one. The extra dynamic range offers far better
opportunities to make use of masking.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
R4 is fine too. And Magic. And R7. They are about the only other stations
I listen to off DAB

Radio 4 sounds OK?.. Hearing tests anyone?...

My hearing is just fine. I'd say it's your brain which is addled. ;-)

--
*A backward poet writes inverse.*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
You won't like DAB quality, believe me.

For R3?

DAB in many cases will provide far better sound quality than FM on R3.


We won't go into that one again Dave what abaht the other radio services
from the BBC eh?.

The OP specifically mentioned R3. And only R3.

And pray why should radio 3 be more deserving?..

For instance.. do they have inferior equipment in the studios?...

As I've said many times before the public seem to like the use of those
signal processors which compress the dynamic range and increase the
perceived loudness which make *far* more difference to the sound quality
at home than the difference between DAB at the current rates and FM. And
every radio station uses them - although R3 and R4 at some times of the
day less aggressively. Every single pop station has them set in such a way
as to make them so tiring to listen to that I simply don't bother - apart
from rarely and as background listening in the car.

If you don't find these annoying to the point of simply switching off
perhaps it's you who needs their hearing tested...

--
*Who are these kids and why are they calling me Mom?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
Adrian C wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
It is ok. Most who go on about 'DAB quality' base it on listening
to a
portable or whatever. Or simple prejudice.


DAB only sounds good on Radio 3 it seems...

R4 is fine too. And Magic. And R7. They are about the only other
stations
I listen to off DAB

Radio 4 sounds OK?.. Hearing tests anyone?...

Some people who mostly listen to Radio 3 are prejudiced against
listening to other types of music, so don't appreciate how badly how
UK
DAB mangles up the content of other music stations out there, and
these
people are those in the higher classes of society with a chequebook
to
put this right.... but they won't.

UK DAB is the laughing stock of the world.

I think the rest of the world has got more important things to laugh
about.

Well its a bloody good/poor start;(.

Can anyone answer why it is that even on Satellite where bit space
isn't
a problem can the BBC only afford 192 K, whereas a respected German
broadcaster like Bayern has 320 K for all of its mainline music
channels
and only uses 128 K, the DAB -standard- rate, for a news info
service?.......
--
Tony Sayer



Actually Tone it's because of the receivers. As the data rate in the UK
was never going to be above 192K the radio software was amended to
optimise it for the lower rates. Take a UK radio to Germany and you will
have major problems but bring a German radio over here (like a Blaupunkt
Woodstock car radio) and it works perfectly.

The feed to Sky from R3 will ultimately be limited by the highest rate
that they have to rpoduce - which is 192K for DAB.


--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
R4 is fine too. And Magic. And R7. They are about the only other stations
I listen to off DAB

Radio 4 sounds OK?.. Hearing tests anyone?...

My hearing is just fine. I'd say it's your brain which is addled. ;-)


Yah!, Boo!...
--
Tony Sayer