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Eeyore June 24th 08 10:59 AM

Dirty Digital [sic.]
 


Don Pearce wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:
"tony sayer"
I know several recentish studios supervised by my 'mate' that have had
whole building EMC screens installed.
They really -necessary- these days?...
** When were the laws of physics repealed - Tony ?

GSM phones are the number one culprits for breaking into audio equipment of
all kinds. You can ban them from the studio itself, but how do you keep all
of them at a safe distance all of the time ?

Then there are VHF and UHF two way radios that travel around in commercial
and private vehicles - even the briefest injection of the signal from one
means having to redo something.

EMC screening is just as important as ever for a serious recording facility.
Continuous welded 2mm mild steel typically does the job.

That is magnetic screening - totally different thing to EMC screening.


The M in EMC IS "magnetic".

Graham


Er - no. The EM in EMC is electromagnetic. That is totally different to
magnetic.


The EMC regs require where relevant *magnetic* compatability.

Graham


Don Pearce June 24th 08 11:03 AM

Dirty Digital [sic.]
 
Eeyore wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:
"tony sayer"
I know several recentish studios supervised by my 'mate' that have had
whole building EMC screens installed.
They really -necessary- these days?...
** When were the laws of physics repealed - Tony ?

GSM phones are the number one culprits for breaking into audio equipment of
all kinds. You can ban them from the studio itself, but how do you keep all
of them at a safe distance all of the time ?

Then there are VHF and UHF two way radios that travel around in commercial
and private vehicles - even the briefest injection of the signal from one
means having to redo something.

EMC screening is just as important as ever for a serious recording facility.
Continuous welded 2mm mild steel typically does the job.
That is magnetic screening - totally different thing to EMC screening.
The M in EMC IS "magnetic".

Graham

Er - no. The EM in EMC is electromagnetic. That is totally different to
magnetic.


The EMC regs require where relevant *magnetic* compatability.

Graham


Where relevant. If you are mounting something next to a leaky mains
transformer, then you need to worry about magnetic induction. Do you
know the most troublesome magnetic induction noise in a studio? It is
the ground loop. To stop that you have no choice but to break the loop -
you can screen 'til you are blue in the face and you won't stop the noise.

d

Phil Allison June 24th 08 11:35 AM

Dirty Digital [sic.]
 

"Don Pearce Lying Charlatan "

EMC screening is just as important as ever for a serious recording
facility.


Continuous welded 2mm mild steel typically does the job.

Graham


That is magnetic screening - totally different thing to EMC screening.



** Wot UTTER ******** !!




...... Phil





Phil Allison June 24th 08 11:39 AM

Dirty Digital [sic.]
 

"Dave Plowman = a publicly masturbating pile of Sub Human DUNG "


Look pet, I record on location for a living. Not some amateur know it all
like you. And any equipment which picks up phones from more than about a
couple of feet is just plain badly designed - assuming it's been designed
since mobile phones, that is.



** Wot a stupid, lying, trolling, ego tripping moron like YOU assumes has
got not got one tiny thing to do with reality.



...... Phil




Don Pearce June 24th 08 11:39 AM

Dirty Digital [sic.]
 
Phil Allison wrote:
"Don Pearce Lying Charlatan "
EMC screening is just as important as ever for a serious recording
facility.
Continuous welded 2mm mild steel typically does the job.

Graham

That is magnetic screening - totally different thing to EMC screening.



** Wot UTTER ******** !!



Oh no! Phil's just proved me wrong AGAIN! Whatever am I to do?

d

Phil Allison June 24th 08 11:42 AM

Dirty Digital [sic.]
 

"tony sayer"

As for two way vehicle radios, yes we've all heard that coming through.
It always means there is a problem like a bad joint somewhere that is
rectifying.


More likely a semi conductor junction that hasn't been by passed at
those frequencies...

You don't screen it, you fix it. You can regard the local
minicab company as a diagnostic aid.


Now less of a problem in practice with the demise of AM modulation
systems..



** GSM phones ARE AM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The carrier is gated on and off hundreds of times a second.

That is why they make audio gear buzz - you dumb ass.

The old analogue phones were simple FM and had no such issues.




....... Phil






Phil Allison June 24th 08 11:48 AM

Dirty Digital [sic.]
 

"tony sayer"
Phil Allison

I know several recentish studios supervised by my 'mate' that have had
whole
building EMC screens installed.

They really -necessary- these days?...



** When were the laws of physics repealed - Tony ?


Well to my knowledge they haven't as yet;)..



**Then shut your stupid ****ing gob - arsehole


GSM phones are the number one culprits for breaking into audio equipment
of
all kinds. You can ban them from the studio itself, but how do you keep
all
of them at a safe distance all of the time ?


GSM with its QAM mode is the most "apparent" interferer and is the most
likely,


** Blah blah blah .. quit the superfluous lecture - pal.



Then there are VHF and UHF two way radios that travel around in commercial
and private vehicles - even the briefest injection of the signal from one
means having to redo something.


Yes "if" your equipment will "respond" to those signals



** Only takes one item in the whole set up or one item of muso's gear.

Get real - ****wit.


EMC screening is just as important as ever for a serious recording
facility.


Well..FWIW...



** It ain't worth a pinch of **** - you ****ant ******.

YOU have no ****ing idea how common it is to find audio gear that is RF
sensitive.




....... Phil






Phil Allison June 24th 08 11:52 AM

Dirty Digital [sic.]
 

"Dave Plowman (News) Complete **** "

It's a poorly designed piece of equipment that picks up a GSM phone unless
it is right on top of it. I'd say within 3 ft or so. Plenty is very much
better than this.



** So ****ing what ????????????????????

The real world is FULL of poorly designed audio gear.

****ing musos own bucket loads of it and DRAG it all into recording studios
when they go there.

Go eat ****

- you mother ****ing pile of autistic pommy vermin.




....... Phil




Phil Allison June 24th 08 11:57 AM

Dirty Digital [sic.]
 

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
et...
Phil Allison wrote:
"Don Pearce Lying Charlatan "
EMC screening is just as important as ever for a serious recording
facility.
Continuous welded 2mm mild steel typically does the job.

Graham

That is magnetic screening - totally different thing to EMC screening.



** Wot UTTER ******** !!



Oh no! Phil's just proved me wrong AGAIN!



** No disproof is EVER required when some nut case pommy charlatan and
****** makes a completely insane & UNSUPPORTED assertion.



Whatever am I to do?



** Go eat a box full of rat bait and vomit blood till you die

- you vile, ASD ****ed, stinking pommy ****.



...... Phil



Don Pearce June 24th 08 12:00 PM

Dirty Digital [sic.]
 
Phil Allison wrote:
"Don Pearce" wrote in message
et...
Phil Allison wrote:
"Don Pearce Lying Charlatan "
EMC screening is just as important as ever for a serious recording
facility.
Continuous welded 2mm mild steel typically does the job.

Graham

That is magnetic screening - totally different thing to EMC screening.

** Wot UTTER ******** !!


Oh no! Phil's just proved me wrong AGAIN!



** No disproof is EVER required when some nut case pommy charlatan and
****** makes a completely insane & UNSUPPORTED assertion.



Whatever am I to do?



** Go eat a box full of rat bait and vomit blood till you die

- you vile, ASD ****ed, stinking pommy ****.



..... Phil



So in your world, mild steel is not used for magnetic screening. How are
things on planet Phil these days?

d


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