In article ,
BBC is biased towards DAB wrote:
Define what you mean by 'compressed audio' I don't think you
understand what it is.

Audio compressed using perceptual audio codecs.

Thanks for confirming you have no idea what audio compression is.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message

In article ,
BBC is biased towards DAB wrote:
Define what you mean by 'compressed audio' I don't think you
understand what it is.

Audio compressed using perceptual audio codecs.

Thanks for confirming you have no idea what audio compression is.


There are two forms of "audio compression" - one is dynamic range
compression, and the other is data compression. The latter is what I'd
always consider to be "audio compression", and I'd expect the former
to be called by its full name or be called "audio processing" or just
"processing".



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The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message

In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
"Some time ago I set up a test. Recorded the same clips from R1,3
and
4 off
DAB, FM and AM (AM using a Quad AM3 with proper aerial) Adjusted

Dave ..

Can you answer this question of -when- you did this please?.

I'm afraid I can't give you the exact date. But not long after DAB
started.


So your test was actually from an age where the bit rates were far
higher than they are today.

So could you explain why your test results are relevant now????





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Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message

In article ,
BBC is biased towards DAB wrote:
I came up with the idea that led to the design of DAB+,

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahah...


Tis true, I'm afraid. WTF would you know anyway?



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The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message

In article ,
BBC is biased towards DAB wrote:
so it would mean
using their computer.


Wi-Fi Internet radio doesn't require your computer to be switched
on
at all. Shows how little you know about it.

Most would consider Wi-Fi to be part of a computer installation.


What difference does that make?


Which probably isn't in the best place for using
while in the kitchen. Where many do listen to the radio. Same as
the
bathroom. But if you live in one room it makes little difference.


I have a Wi-Fi Internet radio in the kitchen - have done for
getting
on for 2 years, and I wouldn't want anything less - vast range of
choice, better audio quality, and you can listen to your own music
streamed from your PC.

With that PC switched off?

Make up your mind.


If you're finding this difficult:

YOu can listen to Internet radio on a Wi-Fi radio without your PC on.
You obviously need your PC on if you want to listen to audio streamed
from your PC, or else it would be difficult for the Wi-Fi radio to
read the audio stored on the PC, wouldn't it?



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Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm

In article ,
BBC is biased towards DAB wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message

In article ,
BBC is biased towards DAB wrote:
Define what you mean by 'compressed audio' I don't think you
understand what it is.

Audio compressed using perceptual audio codecs.

Thanks for confirming you have no idea what audio compression is.


There are two forms of "audio compression" - one is dynamic range
compression, and the other is data compression.

Most consider audio to be just that. Data something else. But if you
actually understood the original point it would be obvious it applied to
dynamic range alteration.

The latter is what I'd
always consider to be "audio compression", and I'd expect the former
to be called by its full name or be called "audio processing" or just
"processing".

Audio compression dates back to long before digits were thought of. Or
certainly before digital audio was practical.

FWIW true audio compression is a loss less method. It can (in theory) be
recovered to the original by using the reverse algorithm. Such an
application was reducing noise over a link or recording, etc.

Digital compression is quite the reverse - it generally involves throwing
away information. And should never have been allowed to adopted this term.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message

In article ,
BBC is biased towards DAB wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message

In article ,
BBC is biased towards DAB wrote:
Define what you mean by 'compressed audio' I don't think you
understand what it is.

Audio compressed using perceptual audio codecs.

Thanks for confirming you have no idea what audio compression is.


There are two forms of "audio compression" - one is dynamic range
compression, and the other is data compression.

Most consider audio to be just that. Data something else. But if you
actually understood the original point it would be obvious it
applied to
dynamic range alteration.

The latter is what I'd
always consider to be "audio compression", and I'd expect the
former
to be called by its full name or be called "audio processing" or
just
"processing".

Audio compression dates back to long before digits were thought of.
Or
certainly before digital audio was practical.

FWIW true audio compression is a loss less method. It can (in
theory) be
recovered to the original by using the reverse algorithm. Such an
application was reducing noise over a link or recording, etc.

Digital compression is quite the reverse - it generally involves
throwing
away information. And should never have been allowed to adopted this
term.


Never heard of lossless audio compression then? Try Googling for FLAC.



--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm

In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
"Some time ago I set up a test. Recorded the same clips from R1,3 and
4 off
DAB, FM and AM (AM using a Quad AM3 with proper aerial) Adjusted

Dave ..

Can you answer this question of -when- you did this please?.

I'm afraid I can't give you the exact date. But not long after DAB
started.

Do you think thats a reasonable comparison then?..

And just how long have Radios 1 and 3 been off Am then?..

--
Tony Sayer

"tony sayer" wrote in message

In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
"Some time ago I set up a test. Recorded the same clips from
R1,3 and
4 off
DAB, FM and AM (AM using a Quad AM3 with proper aerial)
Adjusted

Dave ..

Can you answer this question of -when- you did this please?.

I'm afraid I can't give you the exact date. But not long after DAB
started.

Do you think thats a reasonable comparison then?..

And just how long have Radios 1 and 3 been off Am then?..


Plow******** has gone all quiet all of a sudden - mefinks he's
realised that his test results are worth ****.



--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm

In article , tony sayer
scribeth thus
In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
"Some time ago I set up a test. Recorded the same clips from R1,3 and
4 off
DAB, FM and AM (AM using a Quad AM3 with proper aerial) Adjusted

Dave ..

Can you answer this question of -when- you did this please?.

I'm afraid I can't give you the exact date. But not long after DAB
started.

Do you think thats a reasonable comparison then?..

And just how long have Radios 1 and 3 been off Am then?..


Have you got any dates or a timeline for this as yet Dave?..
--
Tony Sayer