You know I reached under my bed and found my old Phillips CD100 the other
day. It still works!
A bit touchy to seizmic events, slow to find tracks, band a bit on the
bright side of comfortable, but it does still play CDs.

Be an antique soon I guess. sigh.

Brian


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Brian Gaff wrote:
You know I reached under my bed and found my old Phillips CD100 the other
day. It still works!
A bit touchy to seizmic events, slow to find tracks, band a bit on the
bright side of comfortable, but it does still play CDs.

If you've got a Sony CDP-101 in your attic as well then I'll be
impressed. Always wanted to hear one of those.

"Anton Gÿsen" wrote in message

Brian Gaff wrote:
You know I reached under my bed and found my old
Phillips CD100 the other day. It still works!
A bit touchy to seizmic events, slow to find tracks,
band a bit on the bright side of comfortable, but it
does still play CDs.

If you've got a Sony CDP-101 in your attic as well then
I'll be impressed. Always wanted to hear one of those.

I have one that still works very well. Even plays CD-Rs well.

Brian Gaff wrote:
You know I reached under my bed and found my old Phillips CD100 the other
day. It still works!
A bit touchy to seizmic events, slow to find tracks, band a bit on the
bright side of comfortable, but it does still play CDs.

Be an antique soon I guess. sigh.

Double blind test. You know you want to!


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Eiron.

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Anton Gÿsen" wrote in message

Brian Gaff wrote:
You know I reached under my bed and found my old
Phillips CD100 the other day. It still works!
A bit touchy to seizmic events, slow to find tracks,
band a bit on the bright side of comfortable, but it
does still play CDs.

If you've got a Sony CDP-101 in your attic as well then
I'll be impressed. Always wanted to hear one of those.

I have one that still works very well. Even plays CD-Rs well.

What does it sound like and how does it compare to modern CD players?

"Eiron" wrote in message
...
Brian Gaff wrote:
You know I reached under my bed and found my old Phillips CD100 the
other day. It still works!
A bit touchy to seizmic events, slow to find tracks, band a bit on the
bright side of comfortable, but it does still play CDs.

Be an antique soon I guess. sigh.

Double blind test. You know you want to!


--
Eiron.

I've just been given a Marantz CD63, which was the Marantz-badged version of
the CD100. Compared it to my current Meridian 206, couldn't say there was
any obvious difference, even though the Meridian was going to my 'speakers
SP-DIF to SP-DIF direct, and the Marantz was going through my A-D converter
first.

Just goes to show that if a product is audibly transparent, it's
transparent, and one transparent product will sound like another transparent
product.

If I can be bothered, I may do some level-matched blind testing, but even
sighted and not accurately level matched, there really wasn't anything to
choose between them.

S.
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Serge Auckland wrote:

"Eiron" wrote in message
...
Brian Gaff wrote:
You know I reached under my bed and found my old Phillips CD100 the
other day. It still works!
A bit touchy to seizmic events, slow to find tracks, band a bit on
the bright side of comfortable, but it does still play CDs.

Be an antique soon I guess. sigh.

Double blind test. You know you want to!


--
Eiron.

I've just been given a Marantz CD63, which was the Marantz-badged
version of the CD100. Compared it to my current Meridian 206, couldn't
say there was any obvious difference, even though the Meridian was going
to my 'speakers SP-DIF to SP-DIF direct, and the Marantz was going
through my A-D converter first.

Just goes to show that if a product is audibly transparent, it's
transparent, and one transparent product will sound like another
transparent product.

If I can be bothered, I may do some level-matched blind testing, but
even sighted and not accurately level matched, there really wasn't
anything to choose between them.


Do you mean 'no difference between the transports', as opposed to
complete units including DACs?

Rob

"Rob" wrote in message
om...
Serge Auckland wrote:

"Eiron" wrote in message
...
Brian Gaff wrote:
You know I reached under my bed and found my old Phillips CD100 the
other day. It still works!
A bit touchy to seizmic events, slow to find tracks, band a bit on the
bright side of comfortable, but it does still play CDs.

Be an antique soon I guess. sigh.

Double blind test. You know you want to!


--
Eiron.

I've just been given a Marantz CD63, which was the Marantz-badged version
of the CD100. Compared it to my current Meridian 206, couldn't say there
was any obvious difference, even though the Meridian was going to my
'speakers SP-DIF to SP-DIF direct, and the Marantz was going through my
A-D converter first.

Just goes to show that if a product is audibly transparent, it's
transparent, and one transparent product will sound like another
transparent product.

If I can be bothered, I may do some level-matched blind testing, but even
sighted and not accurately level matched, there really wasn't anything to
choose between them.


Do you mean 'no difference between the transports', as opposed to complete
units including DACs?

Rob

My Meridian 206 is being used purely as a transport, feeding SP-DIF directly
into my loudspeakers. The CD63's analogue outputs are going through an ADC
then on to the loudspeakers, so I'm comparing a transport with a complete
unit, redigitised.

S.
--
http://audiopages.googlepages.com

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"Rob" wrote in message
om...
Serge Auckland wrote:

"Eiron" wrote in message
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Brian Gaff wrote:
You know I reached under my bed and found my old Phillips CD100 the
other day. It still works!
A bit touchy to seizmic events, slow to find tracks, band a bit on the
bright side of comfortable, but it does still play CDs.

Be an antique soon I guess. sigh.

Double blind test. You know you want to!


--
Eiron.

I've just been given a Marantz CD63, which was the Marantz-badged
version of the CD100. Compared it to my current Meridian 206, couldn't
say there was any obvious difference, even though the Meridian was going
to my 'speakers SP-DIF to SP-DIF direct, and the Marantz was going
through my A-D converter first.

Just goes to show that if a product is audibly transparent, it's
transparent, and one transparent product will sound like another
transparent product.

If I can be bothered, I may do some level-matched blind testing, but
even sighted and not accurately level matched, there really wasn't
anything to choose between them.


Do you mean 'no difference between the transports', as opposed to
complete units including DACs?

Rob

My Meridian 206 is being used purely as a transport, feeding SP-DIF
directly into my loudspeakers. The CD63's analogue outputs are going
through an ADC then on to the loudspeakers, so I'm comparing a transport
with a complete unit, redigitised.

S.
--
http://audiopages.googlepages.com
Perhaps I should add my 'speakers are Meridian DSP5000/1500s, so they only
have SP-DIF inputs.

S.
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http://audiopages.googlepages.com

"Anton Gÿsen" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Anton Gÿsen" wrote in message

Brian Gaff wrote:
You know I reached under my bed and found my old
Phillips CD100 the other day. It still works!
A bit touchy to seizmic events, slow to find tracks,
band a bit on the bright side of comfortable, but it
does still play CDs.

If you've got a Sony CDP-101 in your attic as well then
I'll be impressed. Always wanted to hear one of those.

I have one that still works very well. Even plays CD-Rs
well.

What does it sound like and how does it compare to modern
CD players?

It sounds good enough all by itself. In a close ABX test with certain
program material and speakers you can hear its two most potentially audible
failings:

(1) It uses analog filters whose response gets a little weird and
rolled-off above about 15 KHz.

(2) It has only one DAC that is time shared between the two output channels.
So, particularly if you have a center channel speaker driven by the two
channels summed, there is an additional roll-off above about 12 KHz that is
more audible.

For casual listening with most speakers and music, its fine.

BTW you should know that a very high proportion of all CDP101s contained
chips that slowly failed and made them mistrack just a little, and then
later mistrack a lot. In the early stages of failure, the tracking problems
are subtle and can sound like all sorts of weird things for different discs
and different people.