"Rob" wrote in message
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David Looser wrote:
"Clive" wrote in message
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Why not record a MP3 track straight to vinyl and listen to the
difference.

Eh? what are you talking about?


What can be done, if you have the time and inclination, is record vinyl to
a digital file. It then becomes digital.

Well indeed, but that is a very different thing from recording "a MP3 track
to vinyl". I haven't got a clue what Clive thinks that means, he probably
doesn't either.

As to why people want to do this . . . well, a friend has asked me to
record some vinyl to digital, and then CD, so her mum can listen to the
music. Brass band music - Black Dyke Mills Band, 1968. Quality seems
pretty good to me - used the latest version of Audacity, very good indeed
IMO.


I've often done that myself (using Cool Edit). As well as being more
convenient to listen to it also means that I can get rid of a lot of the
clicks and pops. Apart from that, though, there is no discernable difference
to the sound quality between the LP direct, and the CD copy.

David.

In article ,
Clive wrote:
It's similar to people who think DABradio sounds better because it is
"digital". They don't know why but think they are expected to say it is
better.

I've heard plenty say there are people like that but I've yet to meet one.

I would love to see vinyl recorded with low bitrates and
compression/limiting. Why not record a MP3 track straight to vinyl and
listen to the difference.

Could you explain more fully? Vinyl adds distortion. It's inherent in the
system. So any signal recorded on it will always sound different from the
original.

DABradio is equivalent to a good quality MW
mono signal with restricted audio frequencies.

MW cuts off at 4.5kHz. DAB at least 15kHz.

You're perfectly entitled not to like DAB but get the facts straight.

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In article ,
Rob wrote:
Why not record a MP3 track straight to vinyl and listen to the
difference.

Eh? what are you talking about?


What can be done, if you have the time and inclination, is record vinyl
to a digital file. It then becomes digital.

Any analogue signal can be digitised. Early CDs often started out as
analogue.

As to why people want to do this . . . well, a friend has asked me to
record some vinyl to digital, and then CD, so her mum can listen to the
music. Brass band music - Black Dyke Mills Band, 1968. Quality seems
pretty good to me - used the latest version of Audacity, very good
indeed IMO.

You don't need Audacity to digitise an LP. Just about every computer with
an audio input can do it. Of course you do need an RIAA preamp.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

You don't need Audacity to digitise an LP. Just about every computer with
an audio input can do it.

The MS standard WAV recording utility, called "sound recorder", in all
versions of windows previous to Vista is unuseable for long length
recordings. You basically had to find another program.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_Recorder_(Windows)

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Adrian C

On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:13:56 +0000, Adrian C
wrote:

The MS standard WAV recording utility, called "sound recorder", in all
versions of windows previous to Vista is unuseable for long length
recordings. You basically had to find another program.

You know the simple dodge that lets SR record any length you like, of
course?

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
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On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:13:56 +0000, Adrian C
wrote:

The MS standard WAV recording utility, called "sound recorder", in all
versions of windows previous to Vista is unuseable for long length
recordings. You basically had to find another program.

You know the simple dodge that lets SR record any length you like, of
course?

What's the point?, you still need an audio editor if you are going to do
anything useful with the recording.

David.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Rob wrote:
Why not record a MP3 track straight to vinyl and listen to the
difference.
Eh? what are you talking about?


What can be done, if you have the time and inclination, is record vinyl
to a digital file. It then becomes digital.

Any analogue signal can be digitised. Early CDs often started out as
analogue.

As to why people want to do this . . . well, a friend has asked me to
record some vinyl to digital, and then CD, so her mum can listen to the
music. Brass band music - Black Dyke Mills Band, 1968. Quality seems
pretty good to me - used the latest version of Audacity, very good
indeed IMO.

You don't need Audacity to digitise an LP. Just about every computer with
an audio input can do it. Of course you do need an RIAA preamp.


How does that work then? I'd have thought you need *some* software. Do
you mean just about any computer and software?

I just mention Audacity because, on a Mac at least, it has come on a lot
- very quick to load/edit/tag/export, and while I'm wary of using such
things, the effects (esp noise reduction) seem to work well.

Rob

David Looser wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message
...
David Looser wrote:
"Clive" wrote in message
...

Why not record a MP3 track straight to vinyl and listen to the
difference.
Eh? what are you talking about?

What can be done, if you have the time and inclination, is record vinyl to
a digital file. It then becomes digital.

Well indeed, but that is a very different thing from recording "a MP3 track
to vinyl". I haven't got a clue what Clive thinks that means, he probably
doesn't either.

As to why people want to do this . . . well, a friend has asked me to
record some vinyl to digital, and then CD, so her mum can listen to the
music. Brass band music - Black Dyke Mills Band, 1968. Quality seems
pretty good to me - used the latest version of Audacity, very good indeed
IMO.


I've often done that myself (using Cool Edit). As well as being more
convenient to listen to it also means that I can get rid of a lot of the
clicks and pops. Apart from that, though, there is no discernable difference
to the sound quality between the LP direct, and the CD copy.


I'd probably agree, although add to the mix the timeless charm of vinyl
spinning and musty record sleeves, and the aural experience goes up a
notch ;-)

I've just started using the noise reduction on Audacity - I've no real
idea what I'm doing, but it seems to work very well. Settings are noise
reduction (dB - I use 24), frequency smoothing (150Hz) and attack/delay
(0.15s), with data generated from 5s or so between track mush.

Rob

In article ,
David Looser wrote:

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:13:56 +0000, Adrian C
wrote:

The MS standard WAV recording utility, called "sound recorder", in all
versions of windows previous to Vista is unuseable for long length
recordings. You basically had to find another program.

You know the simple dodge that lets SR record any length you like, of
course?

What's the point?, you still need an audio editor if you are going to do
anything useful with the recording.

Audacity is an expensive way of getting a simple editor, though.

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In article ,
Adrian C wrote:
You don't need Audacity to digitise an LP. Just about every computer
with an audio input can do it.

The MS standard WAV recording utility, called "sound recorder", in all
versions of windows previous to Vista is unuseable for long length
recordings. You basically had to find another program.

But if you have a CD burner you'll likely have Nero?

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Dave Plowman London SW
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