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Old April 30th 09, 11:15 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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Cinema 1 - Sony SS multichannel/Ruarks/Tannoys

Cinema 2 - KT88 PP valves/ Buschhorn Mk IIs (horns)


You running your own multiplex?

David.


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Old April 30th 09, 01:14 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote



How often do two people sit down to listen to music where they both are
so
critical?



Bit of a giveaway that - 'Billy No Mates' obviously listens in solitude....



Quite often. A musician/artist comes to supper, and brings his/her
recordings along. Preferably you need a sweet spot where three
people can sit comfortably and share the same listrening experience.



.....there are probably half a dozen past and present posters in this ng who
have been here and listened to the various rigs I have had on trial, at
different times!

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Old April 30th 09, 01:17 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"tony sayer" wrote


Those proper Tannoy's or the newer ones?...



Newer ones - triangular cabinets.
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Old April 30th 09, 01:44 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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Cinema 1 - Sony SS multichannel/Ruarks/Tannoys

Cinema 2 - KT88 PP valves/ Buschhorn Mk IIs (horns)


You running your own multiplex?



Yes, have done for a while - late night movies on the main one (aka 'Plex1)
which is due for an upgrade to 'Full HD 1080p' when Amazon decide to stop
punishing me for not paying about 7 quid *delivery blackmail money* and send
me my new Oppy HD800X:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp_Vd...eature=related


And mostly recorded TV progs and *era movies* (Conrad Veidt and Valerie
Hobson in The Spy In Black is the most recent superb example) on 'Plex 2 (my
room) which will soon benefit from the 700X from 'Plex 1!

(Which will flush out as 'spare' a *perfectly good* splendid Benq W100 DLP
with low hours on it, if anyone wants one!)

The amount of TV progs with a very good 'soundtrack' like the endless
historical Jazz and Blues progs, for example, is almost unbelievable when
you push past 'CSI' and the dreck that Plowies works in - called 'Da Biw' or
somesuch, IIRC..!!??

Listening to these on a seriously clear audio system with a picture 6' wide
before you (less on the older, 4:3 stuff) is a totally different/enveloping
experience compared with just 'watching the telly'!!



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Old April 30th 09, 02:10 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Keith G" wrote


Yes, have done for a while - late night movies on the main one (aka
'Plex1) which is due for an upgrade to 'Full HD 1080p' when Amazon decide
to stop punishing me for not paying about 7 quid *delivery blackmail
money* and send me my new Oppy HD800X:



OK, as you were - just had an email to say it's on it's way!

:-))

No, make that a....

:-)))


See also (HD80 and HD800 very similar):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&v=qGhf0JMSXZo


First 5 minutes is the nifty 'All America Mom' fitting the new PJ to the
ceiling while (presumably) the dippy kid does the filming! From about 6 mins
in is music and movie samples - ****e quality, of course, but you get the
idea!

(Now to figure out how to get 'HDTV' through the PJ...???)



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Old April 30th 09, 02:39 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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Cinema 1 - Sony SS multichannel/Ruarks/Tannoys

Cinema 2 - KT88 PP valves/ Buschhorn Mk IIs (horns)


You running your own multiplex?



Yes, have done for a while - late night movies on the main one (aka
'Plex1)


And the other one?


David.


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Old April 30th 09, 02:45 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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Cinema 1 - Sony SS multichannel/Ruarks/Tannoys

Cinema 2 - KT88 PP valves/ Buschhorn Mk IIs (horns)


You running your own multiplex?



Yes, have done for a while - late night movies on the main one (aka
'Plex1)


And the other one?



Did you miss this (not too clear, I admit - sorry):

And mostly recorded TV progs and *era movies* (Conrad Veidt and Valerie
Hobson in The Spy In Black is the most recent superb example) on 'Plex 2 (my
room) which will soon benefit from the 700X from 'Plex 1!




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Old April 30th 09, 03:17 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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In article ,
Keith G wrote:
How often do two people sit down to listen to music where they both
are so critical?



Bit of a giveaway that - 'Billy No Mates' obviously listens in
solitude....


I certainly don't choose friends on their ability to assess loudspeakers.


Quite often. A musician/artist comes to supper, and brings his/her
recordings along. Preferably you need a sweet spot where three people
can sit comfortably and share the same listrening experience.



....there are probably half a dozen past and present posters in this ng
who have been here and listened to the various rigs I have had on
trial, at different times!


Still searching for the perfect one then Kitty?

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
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Old April 30th 09, 03:54 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce[_3_]
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:51:41 +0100, Jim Lesurf
wrote:

In article 49fc823e.1124263953@localhost, Don Pearce
wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:07:25 +0100, Jim Lesurf
wrote:


Alas, the kind of imaging I'm referring to tends in my experience to
require very carefully symmetry in the listening layout, and speakers
like the Quads with a defined directional behaviour. Hence the need to
have a small sweet spot in a small room.


My finding on this is that the sweet spot can be enlarged usefully if
you stop worrying about symmetry, but instead concentrate on creating
diffuse reflections rather than specular ones, particularly from the
walls beside the speakers. With that taken care of, pointing the
speakers a little straighter into the room rather than crossing exactly
at the seating position can make them cover three seats with solid
imaging.


My experience with that is that it also 'blurs out' the images for specific
instruments/voices. So you end up moving towards the old 'Sonab' experience
where you got etherial noises from around you wherever you went. They
regarded that as 'stereo', but I don't.


That happens if you try to angle the speakers too far from crossing,
but if you just make it a few degree, so the beams hit the listening
position roughly midway between two listeners, all is well. You don't
get a huge sweet spot, but certainly three people on one settee is
quite possible.

And it is dead easy to realign them properly when you are listening
alone, of course.

d
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Old April 30th 09, 04:13 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G[_2_]
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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In article , tony sayer

wrote:

I remember seeing some being tested at the factory once and they were
fed with a square wave and the output on the scope from the B&K Mic was
.. well .. very square..


I've also seen that. Also that they would drive two ESLs in antiphase to
check they could null the two outputs at the mic to confirm the two
speakers were near identical in performance.




How is that so hard - I would expect that with Lowthers?

 




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