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Keith G[_2_] May 16th 09 09:52 AM

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"Eiron" wrote


It's what the wife calls a compromise.
The centre speaker is to the left of the fireplace, the screen is to the
right.
In an ideal world I would be investigating the acoustic properties of a
projector screen
and putting the centre speaker behind it.



Makes no odds to me but Swim says she hears a difference if the screen
extends down to cover the centre! (??)


Anton G˙sen[_2_] May 16th 09 10:02 AM

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Blacknikon wrote:
I have 2 x B&W DM620i loudspeakers (8 Ohm, 25-100 Watt continu), which I
paln to use as frontspeakers. Also I have 2 x Magnat project 4.1
loudspeakers type 2 (4-8 Ohm, 140-250 Watt), which I intend to use as
rearspeakers.

also I have 2 x Sony S-SE 455 V loudspeakers (8 Ohm, 200
W) with centerspeaker Sony SSC-CN55 (8 Ohm, 200 Watt).

I am considering to nuy one of the following 3 DTS audio-video receivers:

Harman Kardon AVR155 now 358 euro, AVR347 now 329 euro en de AVR355
now 530 euro.

I am going to use this receiver in combination with the WD TV HD Media
Player, see http://www.wdc.com/en/library/wdtv/NLD/UserManual.pdf.

I use it for bluray movies.
I also will use it as an audioreciever foor playing CD's, etc.

Which AV receiver sholud I choose and why?
Should I also consider to look at Denon, because I now have all HIFI
stuff from Denon, being 15 years old but still good.

Best regard,

Eric


Put all your dosh into a good two channel system.

Dave Plowman (News) May 16th 09 10:56 AM

DTS AV-receiver
 
In article 4a1c7f39.957665296@localhost,
Don Pearce wrote:
Only comment I'd make is I found the choice of a centre dialogue speaker
very important - it has to match the main pair pretty well if you want a
reasonably integrated sound stage.


Easier said than done. In 90% of systems the centre speaker seems to
honk rather than make a decent sound. Just a result of having to be so
small, I guess.


Yup. In the end I didn't bother. Even when using one which was a
reasonable match I didn't like the unreal separation it gave. Of course
when watching I always have the sweet spot seat anyway. ;-)

--
*I started out with nothing, and I still have most of it*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) May 16th 09 10:59 AM

DTS AV-receiver
 
In article ,
Eiron wrote:
Where do you put the centre front? Or are you not too fussed about
actually watching the picture?


It's what the wife calls a compromise. The centre speaker is to the left
of the fireplace, the screen is to the right. In an ideal world I would
be investigating the acoustic properties of a projector screen and
putting the centre speaker behind it.


Surely the main point of a centre speaker is having the dialogue coming
from the screen?

--
*Why do the two "sanction"s (noun and verb) mean opposites?*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Eiron May 16th 09 11:17 AM

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Eiron wrote:
Where do you put the centre front? Or are you not too fussed about
actually watching the picture?


It's what the wife calls a compromise. The centre speaker is to the left
of the fireplace, the screen is to the right. In an ideal world I would
be investigating the acoustic properties of a projector screen and
putting the centre speaker behind it.


Surely the main point of a centre speaker is having the dialogue coming
from the screen?


Yes. I don't know what the main point of a wife is though.

--
Eiron.

Don Pearce[_3_] May 16th 09 11:19 AM

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On Sat, 16 May 2009 11:56:12 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article 4a1c7f39.957665296@localhost,
Don Pearce wrote:
Only comment I'd make is I found the choice of a centre dialogue speaker
very important - it has to match the main pair pretty well if you want a
reasonably integrated sound stage.


Easier said than done. In 90% of systems the centre speaker seems to
honk rather than make a decent sound. Just a result of having to be so
small, I guess.


Yup. In the end I didn't bother. Even when using one which was a
reasonable match I didn't like the unreal separation it gave. Of course
when watching I always have the sweet spot seat anyway. ;-)


Have you noticed that in a great many recent films, dialogue is pretty
much buried in the effects noises anyway? Very hard to understand
sometimes.

d

Keith G[_2_] May 16th 09 11:27 AM

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"Don Pearce" wrote

Have you noticed that in a great many recent films, dialogue is pretty
much buried in the effects noises anyway?



Nope.


Very hard to understand
sometimes.



That's because it's Harrison Ford....




Keith G[_2_] May 16th 09 11:29 AM

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"Eiron" wrote in message
...
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Eiron wrote:
Where do you put the centre front? Or are you not too fussed about
actually watching the picture?


It's what the wife calls a compromise. The centre speaker is to the left
of the fireplace, the screen is to the right. In an ideal world I would
be investigating the acoustic properties of a projector screen and
putting the centre speaker behind it.


Surely the main point of a centre speaker is having the dialogue coming
from the screen?



Clueless ****....


Yes. I don't know what the main point of a wife is though.



To give your kids the same surname as your own...?



Dave Plowman (News) May 16th 09 11:49 AM

DTS AV-receiver
 
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Surely the main point of a centre speaker is having the dialogue
coming from the screen?



Clueless ****....


Go on then. Educate us as to the purpose.


Yes. I don't know what the main point of a wife is though.



To give your kids the same surname as your own...?


Ah. Your father was Mr G. Says it all.

--
*When blondes have more fun, do they know it?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

David Looser May 16th 09 12:37 PM

DTS AV-receiver
 
"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Eiron" wrote


It's what the wife calls a compromise.
The centre speaker is to the left of the fireplace, the screen is to the
right.
In an ideal world I would be investigating the acoustic properties of a
projector screen
and putting the centre speaker behind it.



Makes no odds to me but Swim says she hears a difference if the screen
extends down to cover the centre! (??)


It will, even perforated screens attenuate the HF quite a bit. If you have a
3rd octave equaliser you can correct for that (but make sure the speaker is
as close to the screen as possible and that the back wall has good
sound-absorbsobant properties or you get reflections).

For a normal domestic set-up I regard a phantom centre as preferable. The
point of the centre speaker is to lock dialogue to the screen centre even
for members of the audience who are well away from the sweet spot.

David.






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