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In article ,
Eeyore wrote:
Mere pence when you include decent XLRs? Love to know where you buy
them for that...

Do you know how cheap the Chinese copy XLRs are now ? They're perfectly
decent for the job.

My experiences of cheap XLRs isn't positive - I tend to stick to Neutric.
But then they're used for the purpose intended.

The Neutrik clone XLRs are IME pretty good. Never saw one fail, although
I've seen the cables they are attached to fail many times.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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I *really* don't understand these haters of phonos. They're perfectly
all right for the purpose intended. DIN are the spawn of Satan. They
oxidise all too readily and result in a poor connection.

I *really* don't understand these haters of DINs either. They don't
oxidise any more readily than any other type of connector. Just as with
any type of connector, of course, there are decent quality ones, and
crap ones. But I've used DINs for many years and have had no more
trouble from them than I have had with phonos, and in both cases it was
due to using cheap connectors.

Well, I had problems with a Quad 3 series unit using the supplied
interconnects. Also when using one between a DC controlled pre-amp and the
pots which set the levels. Once bitten, twice shy. Only time I've had
problems with phonos was with a Revox A77 which was used 'on the road'.
Where everything else was using connectors designed for this sort of use -
like XLRs.

David.

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In article ,
Arny Krueger wrote:
Do you know how cheap the Chinese copy XLRs are now ? They're
perfectly decent for the job. A tiny fraction of the cost of an
idiotic Monster etc cable with an equally idiotic RCA connector on the
end of it.

Agreed. However, the panel footprint of an XLR is not inconsiderable.

Given how many phonos there are on my AV unit...

With XLRs, it might not fit in the room.

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On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:42:01 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

Well, I had problems with a Quad 3 series unit using the supplied
interconnects.

What's the difference between an interconnect and a cable? Apart from
the price :-)

In article ,
Laurence Payne wrote:
Well, I had problems with a Quad 3 series unit using the supplied
interconnects.

What's the difference between an interconnect and a cable? Apart from
the price :-)

Cable strictly speaking is just the wire. Interconnect includes the plugs.
To be pedantic.

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On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:31:42 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Laurence Payne wrote:
Well, I had problems with a Quad 3 series unit using the supplied
interconnects.

What's the difference between an interconnect and a cable? Apart from
the price :-)

Cable strictly speaking is just the wire. Interconnect includes the plugs.
To be pedantic.

I think that is also the difference between "cable" and "A cable". The
stuff on the drum is a mass noun, but once you cut a piece off and put
connectors on the end it becomes a countable cable.

For me, interconnect is a verb. Interconnection would be the noun, but
I would use that in the abstract sense, as in: There is an
interconnection between these two boxes. It is made with a cable.

d

In article 4a4af515.969415500@localhost,
Don Pearce wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:31:42 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Laurence Payne wrote:
Well, I had problems with a Quad 3 series unit using the supplied
interconnects.

What's the difference between an interconnect and a cable? Apart from
the price :-)

Cable strictly speaking is just the wire. Interconnect includes the plugs.
To be pedantic.

I think that is also the difference between "cable" and "A cable". The
stuff on the drum is a mass noun, but once you cut a piece off and put
connectors on the end it becomes a countable cable.

For me, interconnect is a verb. Interconnection would be the noun, but
I would use that in the abstract sense, as in: There is an
interconnection between these two boxes. It is made with a cable.

True - it's originally an Americanism. But English is a living language
too. If you used interconnection cable that would cover it but a bit of a
mouthful.

d

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article 4a4af515.969415500@localhost,
Don Pearce wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:31:42 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Laurence Payne wrote:
Well, I had problems with a Quad 3 series unit using the supplied
interconnects.
What's the difference between an interconnect and a cable? Apart from
the price :-)
Cable strictly speaking is just the wire. Interconnect includes the plugs.
To be pedantic.

I think that is also the difference between "cable" and "A cable". The
stuff on the drum is a mass noun, but once you cut a piece off and put
connectors on the end it becomes a countable cable.

For me, interconnect is a verb. Interconnection would be the noun, but
I would use that in the abstract sense, as in: There is an
interconnection between these two boxes. It is made with a cable.

True - it's originally an Americanism. But English is a living language
too. If you used interconnection cable that would cover it but a bit of a
mouthful.

And to be pedantic, they are connections rather than interconnections,
except in the case of a tape deck or graphic equalizer.

--
Eiron.

On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:38:07 +0100, Eiron wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article 4a4af515.969415500@localhost,
Don Pearce wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:31:42 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Laurence Payne wrote:
Well, I had problems with a Quad 3 series unit using the supplied
interconnects.
What's the difference between an interconnect and a cable? Apart from
the price :-)
Cable strictly speaking is just the wire. Interconnect includes the plugs.
To be pedantic.

I think that is also the difference between "cable" and "A cable". The
stuff on the drum is a mass noun, but once you cut a piece off and put
connectors on the end it becomes a countable cable.

For me, interconnect is a verb. Interconnection would be the noun, but
I would use that in the abstract sense, as in: There is an
interconnection between these two boxes. It is made with a cable.

True - it's originally an Americanism. But English is a living language
too. If you used interconnection cable that would cover it but a bit of a
mouthful.

And to be pedantic, they are connections rather than interconnections,
except in the case of a tape deck or graphic equalizer.

I suppose the "inter" bit is tautological. Or maybe not - You can have
interconnections from one box to another, and intraconnections inside
a box. (Now THAT is pedantry)

Don't understand about the tape deck and graphic equaliser, I'm
afraid.

d

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message

Well, I had problems with a Quad 3 series unit using the supplied
interconnects.

Quad did supply some pretty crap DIN connectors with their kit. My main
living room audio system uses Quad 44, one of the older ones with DIN
connectors, which must be 25 years old by now and still going strong. I'm
using it with decent cast-metal bodied DIN plugs which have given me no
problems at all.

Back in the '70s when I was more inclinded to build audio kit than I am now
I prefered DINs to phonos, but I always used the metal-bodied type.

David.