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How do you know Phil's medical condition?

It has been openly discussed on and off groups and MDs have
offered their opinion.


Do you think that Phil's medical condition as diagnosed is
a cause for his actions?

Yes and a very nasty disposition mixed in for good measure.

Also, do you think it's a good idea to declare a medical
condition like this on the internet?

Yes. He has freely discussed other people's medical
conditions and even disclosed a person's criminal record.


What is the relevance of the same sex encounter you claim
Phil has had?

This explains his obsession with all things anal and his
homophobic tendencies.


What relevance is Phil's occupation and employment status?

It shows he lacks creditability. It also demonstrates why
he detests anyone with qualifications. The more highly
qualified someone is the more Philthy is likely to have a go
at them.


What relevance is Phil's tenure, age and religious
background?

It demonstrates why he has such a nasty disposion and why he
has so much time on his hands. Basically it says why he is
a grumpy old man ;-)


If your answers to any of these questions have anything to
do with your hatred of Phil, please explain.

My dislike of your pal is solely because how he treats
people and because of the disgusting things he has written
about me, my family and my friends. Yes, it's personal.

http://groups.google.com/group/aus.e...e=source&hl=en
here is where Philthy talks about his schooling and being
a Uni drop out. Feel free to do your own research
yourself *IF* you think I have in anyway mislead you or
anyone else.


That post says Phil left University for financial and
personal reasons. You persecute him for that ('university
dropout').

See above about qualifications, it goes a long way as to
explaining why he is the way he is.

You really are a prick TT.

Your opinion and you get to keep it. So what title do
bestow on pal Philthy then? Saint? Misunderstood boy
genius? What?

I work in a university and I see this most days. It's
heartbreaking, and you think it's a bit of a laugh, or
something.

Oh quite the opposite actually. I think it is tragic waste
of a human life and an institutions rescoures.

I don't think there's a single word of that post I
disagree with. The thing with PhDs is that they train you
to *do* something - research in the main. They are so
focused they're not actually that useful in themselves.
And they're certainly not an even close measure of
intelligence (whatever that is, I don't know). How do you
know about PhDs by the way?

I haven't claimed any knowledge about PhDs. Except to say
that I am close to the universty scene as well ;-)

In my view you'd be better *not* having a go at people
unless you have a decent reason.

What about years of slander, libel and abuse and accusing me
of disgusting acts? Is that a valid reason in your opinion?

What I can't figure is what a person's age, sexuality,
tenure and so forth has to do with 'on topic'.


Ask CD why he started the thread then? He asked about
Philthy's family history and I *assumed* that would also
entail his background. I have stated the facts as I
undersatnd them. I also should mention many people seem to
agree with me ;-)

However, I am insinuating that you're a bigot by asking
you a series of focused questions. I don't think it's
stretching things too much to suggest that if i've reason
to believe that if you're a bigot in your personal life,
then you're a bigot in your private life.

No I am not a bigot, I just detest how Philthy interacts on
Usenet and how he has single handedly destroyed several
newsgroups.

I'm no saint by the way ;-)

I have not made a jugement call on that - yet ;-) Misguided
perhaps is all that I would say for the time being.

Now that I have honestly answered your questions how about
some of mine?

Do you condone Philthy's online actions?

Do you find them entertaining or enjoyable?

Are you a hypocrite in allowing Philthy to divulge personal
information online but not others about him?

Have you had an online encounter with Philthy yet?

Has he stalked you yet? (That's obviously a big NO)

Do you condone online stalking?

What is your plan to rid Usenet of malicious, abusive
nutcases like Phil Allison?

Do you *really* know what Philthy is like or are you just
assuming he can't be as bad as he seems?

Cheers TT

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How do you know Phil's medical condition?

It has been openly discussed on and off groups

Oh well, that's *real* evidence! (not :-()

and MDs have offered their opinion.

Then they shouldn't have done, that is a clear breach of medical ethics. In
any case unless they have treated him themselves their opinion counts for
little.


My dislike of your pal

When did Rob ever describe Phil as his "pal"? It seems to be a habit of
yours to claim that other people are "defending" someone when all they are
doing is objecting to your way of making ill-informed judgements about other
people.

I kill-filed Phil a long time ago because, although he has much to
contribute, I am not prepared to correspond with anyone who's response to
any post that contradicts his views is to launch into a barrage of foul
language. That's all I need to do, and if everyone did that he would
effectively cease to exist as far as Usenet is concerned. Producing
web-sites devoted to him, along with quack "diagnosis" of his medical
condition is IMHO utterly inappropriate.

David.

"David Looser" wrote in message
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"TT" wrote in message
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How do you know Phil's medical condition?

It has been openly discussed on and off groups

Oh well, that's *real* evidence! (not :-()

and MDs have offered their opinion.

Then they shouldn't have done, that is a clear breach of medical ethics.
In any case unless they have treated him themselves their opinion counts
for little.


My dislike of your pal

When did Rob ever describe Phil as his "pal"? It seems to be a habit of
yours to claim that other people are "defending" someone when all they are
doing is objecting to your way of making ill-informed judgements about
other people.

That's a joke right? I'm ill-informed about what an abusive little troll
Philthy is?


I kill-filed Phil a long time ago because,

I did to for a while but he would then start to prey on newbies. A quick
chat on what Philthy is and how to deal with him and the message soon got
through.

although he has much to contribute, I am not prepared to correspond with
anyone who's response to any post that contradicts his views is to launch
into a barrage of foul language. That's all I need to do, and if everyone
did that he would effectively cease to exist as far as Usenet is
concerned. Producing web-sites devoted to him, along with quack
"diagnosis" of his medical condition is IMHO utterly inappropriate.

David.

As I have attempted to explain to Rob, Philthy's whole persona is "utterly
inappropriate".

I have found exposing him for what he is and to show people how he behaves,
he quickly goes away again. Once people realise what a sad and pathetic
creature he really is he ceases to be a problem.

BTW I have had my say, I have answered Rob's questions and I shall now fade
away into the background again.

Cheers TT

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How do you know Phil's medical condition?

It has been openly discussed on and off groups and MDs have
offered their opinion.


I'm afraid I simply don't believe that a suitably qualified MD offered a
diagnosis on a public forum. Do you have evidence?

Do you think that Phil's medical condition as diagnosed is
a cause for his actions?

Yes and a very nasty disposition mixed in for good measure.

Also, do you think it's a good idea to declare a medical
condition like this on the internet?

Yes. He has freely discussed other people's medical
conditions and even disclosed a person's criminal record.

What is the relevance of the same sex encounter you claim
Phil has had?

This explains his obsession with all things anal and his
homophobic tendencies.


Yes, you've obviously not understood. Indeed, your using the very
techniques you criticise to create your case.

I don't know Phil Allison as well as you - I only know what I've seen on
a NG (and even then it's not that reliable). However, I see his bad
language as an extreme vernacular. You obviously feel you've
witnessed/experienced something far more serious.

What relevance is Phil's occupation and employment status?

It shows he lacks creditability. It also demonstrates why
he detests anyone with qualifications. The more highly
qualified someone is the more Philthy is likely to have a go
at them.


I find it perfectly reasonable to accept that someone without
qualifications knows more than one with.

What relevance is Phil's tenure, age and religious
background?

It demonstrates why he has such a nasty disposion and why he
has so much time on his hands. Basically it says why he is
a grumpy old man ;-)


Do you not see why you're a bigot? A lot of people are. Just learn to
describe yourself as a bigot.

If your answers to any of these questions have anything to
do with your hatred of Phil, please explain.

My dislike of your pal is solely because how he treats
people and because of the disgusting things he has written
about me, my family and my friends. Yes, it's personal.


Phil isn't my 'pal'. I don't know him. Neither do you, from the lack of
evidence you've offered.

http://groups.google.com/group/aus.e...e=source&hl=en
here is where Philthy talks about his schooling and being
a Uni drop out. Feel free to do your own research
yourself *IF* you think I have in anyway mislead you or
anyone else.

That post says Phil left University for financial and
personal reasons. You persecute him for that ('university
dropout').

See above about qualifications, it goes a long way as to
explaining why he is the way he is.


How? What's this thing you've got with 'qualifications'?

You really are a prick TT.

Your opinion and you get to keep it. So what title do
bestow on pal Philthy then? Saint? Misunderstood boy
genius? What?


I don't have an opinion of Phil beyond his potty typing and short fuse,
he seems to know his onions, and he seems to attract vicious little
net-stalkers such as you.

I work in a university and I see this most days. It's
heartbreaking, and you think it's a bit of a laugh, or
something.

Oh quite the opposite actually. I think it is tragic waste
of a human life and an institutions rescoures.

I don't think there's a single word of that post I
disagree with. The thing with PhDs is that they train you
to *do* something - research in the main. They are so
focused they're not actually that useful in themselves.
And they're certainly not an even close measure of
intelligence (whatever that is, I don't know). How do you
know about PhDs by the way?

I haven't claimed any knowledge about PhDs. Except to say
that I am close to the universty scene as well ;-)

I dread to think. I think I may even know of you.

In my view you'd be better *not* having a go at people
unless you have a decent reason.

What about years of slander, libel and abuse and accusing me
of disgusting acts? Is that a valid reason in your opinion?


No, not really, I suspect you had it coming to you. Slander? When/what
was that? Do you know each other socially then? Actually, what
disgusting acts?

What I can't figure is what a person's age, sexuality,
tenure and so forth has to do with 'on topic'.


Ask CD why he started the thread then? He asked about
Philthy's family history and I *assumed* that would also
entail his background. I have stated the facts as I
undersatnd them. I also should mention many people seem to
agree with me ;-)

However, I am insinuating that you're a bigot by asking
you a series of focused questions. I don't think it's
stretching things too much to suggest that if i've reason
to believe that if you're a bigot in your personal life,
then you're a bigot in your private life.

No I am not a bigot, I just detest how Philthy interacts on
Usenet and how he has single handedly destroyed several
newsgroups.


You are a bigot TT. By definition.

Rob

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TT wrote:
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How do you know Phil's medical condition?

It has been openly discussed on and off groups and MDs have offered their
opinion.


I'm afraid I simply don't believe that a suitably qualified MD offered a
diagnosis on a public forum. Do you have evidence?

Let Google be your friend since you doubt nearly everything I say.

Do you think that Phil's medical condition as diagnosed is a cause for
his actions?

Yes and a very nasty disposition mixed in for good measure.

Also, do you think it's a good idea to declare a medical condition like
this on the internet?

Yes. He has freely discussed other people's medical conditions and even
disclosed a person's criminal record.

What is the relevance of the same sex encounter you claim Phil has had?

This explains his obsession with all things anal and his homophobic
tendencies.


Yes, you've obviously not understood. Indeed, your using the very
techniques you criticise to create your case.

Yes, I am fighting fire with fire. All normal rules of netiquette are
suspended in Philthy's case.


I don't know Phil Allison as well as you - I only know what I've seen on a
NG (and even then it's not that reliable). However, I see his bad language
as an extreme vernacular. You obviously feel you've witnessed/experienced
something far more serious.

What relevance is Phil's occupation and employment status?

It shows he lacks creditability. It also demonstrates why he detests
anyone with qualifications. The more highly qualified someone is the
more Philthy is likely to have a go at them.


I find it perfectly reasonable to accept that someone without
qualifications knows more than one with.

Yet you start this post calling for the qulifications from MD's I discussed
Philthy with? And you accuse me of bigotry and double standards?

What relevance is Phil's tenure, age and religious background?

It demonstrates why he has such a nasty disposion and why he has so much
time on his hands. Basically it says why he is a grumpy old man ;-)


Do you not see why you're a bigot? A lot of people are. Just learn to
describe yourself as a bigot.

*IF* by your definition of bigot is to not dumbly stand by and let an
arsehole like Philthy do and say what he will then I must qualify.


If your answers to any of these questions have anything to do with your
hatred of Phil, please explain.

My dislike of your pal is solely because how he treats people and because
of the disgusting things he has written about me, my family and my
friends. Yes, it's personal.


Phil isn't my 'pal'. I don't know him. Neither do you, from the lack of
evidence you've offered.

http://groups.google.com/group/aus.e...e=source&hl=en
here is where Philthy talks about his schooling and being a Uni drop
out. Feel free to do your own research yourself *IF* you think I have
in anyway mislead you or anyone else.

That post says Phil left University for financial and personal reasons.
You persecute him for that ('university dropout').

See above about qualifications, it goes a long way as to explaining why
he is the way he is.


How? What's this thing you've got with 'qualifications'?

They are valuable in proving that someone is competant to perform a task of
give and oppinion on a subject of their expertise? Or do you just beklieve
everything someone tells you?

You really are a prick TT.

Your opinion and you get to keep it. So what title do bestow on pal
Philthy then? Saint? Misunderstood boy genius? What?


I don't have an opinion of Phil beyond his potty typing and short fuse, he
seems to know his onions, and he seems to attract vicious little
net-stalkers such as you.

I work in a university and I see this most days. It's heartbreaking, and
you think it's a bit of a laugh, or something.

Oh quite the opposite actually. I think it is tragic waste of a human
life and an institutions rescoures.

I don't think there's a single word of that post I disagree with. The
thing with PhDs is that they train you to *do* something - research in
the main. They are so focused they're not actually that useful in
themselves. And they're certainly not an even close measure of
intelligence (whatever that is, I don't know). How do you know about
PhDs by the way?

I haven't claimed any knowledge about PhDs. Except to say that I am
close to the universty scene as well ;-)

I dread to think. I think I may even know of you.

Ask your pal Philthy as he knows all about me and my family.

In my view you'd be better *not* having a go at people unless you have a
decent reason.

What about years of slander, libel and abuse and accusing me of
disgusting acts? Is that a valid reason in your opinion?


No, not really, I suspect you had it coming to you.

HA! I can only hope that Philthy does he his little act on you then.

Slander? When/what was that? Do you know each other socially then?
Actually, what disgusting acts?

Google can be your friend.


What I can't figure is what a person's age, sexuality, tenure and so
forth has to do with 'on topic'.


Ask CD why he started the thread then? He asked about Philthy's family
history and I *assumed* that would also entail his background. I have
stated the facts as I undersatnd them. I also should mention many people
seem to agree with me ;-)

However, I am insinuating that you're a bigot by asking you a series of
focused questions. I don't think it's stretching things too much to
suggest that if i've reason to believe that if you're a bigot in your
personal life, then you're a bigot in your private life.

No I am not a bigot, I just detest how Philthy interacts on Usenet and
how he has single handedly destroyed several newsgroups.


You are a bigot TT. By definition.

Rob

I don't intend to swap insults with you about this at all. The questions
were asked, I have given honest answers and you want to somehow prove me at
fault. I have stated my case and you prefer the abusive arsehole to me. So
be it.

I wont participate in this thread any more and as I have suggested *IF* you
genuinely interested then Google. Most of the occurrences are from
aus.hi-fi.

Search criteria is The poster's name "Phil Allison" Relevant words are "the
"c" word", the "F" word, autistic, criminal, liar. I won't mention other
poster's names as I'm sure they will become evident. He was especially
active about 3-5 years ago.

Cheers TT

TT wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message
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TT wrote:
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How do you know Phil's medical condition?
It has been openly discussed on and off groups and MDs have offered their
opinion.

I'm afraid I simply don't believe that a suitably qualified MD offered a
diagnosis on a public forum. Do you have evidence?

Let Google be your friend since you doubt nearly everything I say.

Do you think that Phil's medical condition as diagnosed is a cause for
his actions?
Yes and a very nasty disposition mixed in for good measure.

Also, do you think it's a good idea to declare a medical condition like
this on the internet?
Yes. He has freely discussed other people's medical conditions and even
disclosed a person's criminal record.

What is the relevance of the same sex encounter you claim Phil has had?
This explains his obsession with all things anal and his homophobic
tendencies.

Yes, you've obviously not understood. Indeed, your using the very
techniques you criticise to create your case.

Yes, I am fighting fire with fire. All normal rules of netiquette are
suspended in Philthy's case.

I don't know Phil Allison as well as you - I only know what I've seen on a
NG (and even then it's not that reliable). However, I see his bad language
as an extreme vernacular. You obviously feel you've witnessed/experienced
something far more serious.

What relevance is Phil's occupation and employment status?
It shows he lacks creditability. It also demonstrates why he detests
anyone with qualifications. The more highly qualified someone is the
more Philthy is likely to have a go at them.

I find it perfectly reasonable to accept that someone without
qualifications knows more than one with.

Yet you start this post calling for the qulifications from MD's I discussed
Philthy with? And you accuse me of bigotry and double standards?

What relevance is Phil's tenure, age and religious background?
It demonstrates why he has such a nasty disposion and why he has so much
time on his hands. Basically it says why he is a grumpy old man ;-)

Do you not see why you're a bigot? A lot of people are. Just learn to
describe yourself as a bigot.

*IF* by your definition of bigot is to not dumbly stand by and let an
arsehole like Philthy do and say what he will then I must qualify.

If your answers to any of these questions have anything to do with your
hatred of Phil, please explain.
My dislike of your pal is solely because how he treats people and because
of the disgusting things he has written about me, my family and my
friends. Yes, it's personal.

Phil isn't my 'pal'. I don't know him. Neither do you, from the lack of
evidence you've offered.

http://groups.google.com/group/aus.e...e=source&hl=en
here is where Philthy talks about his schooling and being a Uni drop
out. Feel free to do your own research yourself *IF* you think I have
in anyway mislead you or anyone else.

That post says Phil left University for financial and personal reasons.
You persecute him for that ('university dropout').
See above about qualifications, it goes a long way as to explaining why
he is the way he is.

How? What's this thing you've got with 'qualifications'?

They are valuable in proving that someone is competant to perform a task of
give and oppinion on a subject of their expertise? Or do you just beklieve
everything someone tells you?

You really are a prick TT.
Your opinion and you get to keep it. So what title do bestow on pal
Philthy then? Saint? Misunderstood boy genius? What?

I don't have an opinion of Phil beyond his potty typing and short fuse, he
seems to know his onions, and he seems to attract vicious little
net-stalkers such as you.

I work in a university and I see this most days. It's heartbreaking, and
you think it's a bit of a laugh, or something.

Oh quite the opposite actually. I think it is tragic waste of a human
life and an institutions rescoures.

I don't think there's a single word of that post I disagree with. The
thing with PhDs is that they train you to *do* something - research in
the main. They are so focused they're not actually that useful in
themselves. And they're certainly not an even close measure of
intelligence (whatever that is, I don't know). How do you know about
PhDs by the way?
I haven't claimed any knowledge about PhDs. Except to say that I am
close to the universty scene as well ;-)
I dread to think. I think I may even know of you.

Ask your pal Philthy as he knows all about me and my family.

In my view you'd be better *not* having a go at people unless you have a
decent reason.
What about years of slander, libel and abuse and accusing me of
disgusting acts? Is that a valid reason in your opinion?

No, not really, I suspect you had it coming to you.

HA! I can only hope that Philthy does he his little act on you then.

Slander? When/what was that? Do you know each other socially then?
Actually, what disgusting acts?

Google can be your friend.

What I can't figure is what a person's age, sexuality, tenure and so
forth has to do with 'on topic'.

Ask CD why he started the thread then? He asked about Philthy's family
history and I *assumed* that would also entail his background. I have
stated the facts as I undersatnd them. I also should mention many people
seem to agree with me ;-)

However, I am insinuating that you're a bigot by asking you a series of
focused questions. I don't think it's stretching things too much to
suggest that if i've reason to believe that if you're a bigot in your
personal life, then you're a bigot in your private life.

No I am not a bigot, I just detest how Philthy interacts on Usenet and
how he has single handedly destroyed several newsgroups.

You are a bigot TT. By definition.

Rob

I don't intend to swap insults with you about this at all. The questions
were asked, I have given honest answers and you want to somehow prove me at
fault. I have stated my case and you prefer the abusive arsehole to me. So
be it.

I wont participate in this thread any more and as I have suggested *IF* you
genuinely interested then Google. Most of the occurrences are from
aus.hi-fi.

Search criteria is The poster's name "Phil Allison" Relevant words are "the
"c" word", the "F" word, autistic, criminal, liar. I won't mention other
poster's names as I'm sure they will become evident. He was especially
active about 3-5 years ago.

Cheers TT


I'd just written analysis of your post - this'll do:

Frankly, having just read a heap of your posts on Phil Allison, I'm
quite happy to leave this now. I'm out of my league.

Rob