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Old November 9th 09, 11:03 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G[_2_]
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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Sorry. Posted a link to the wrong version of "Killer Joe"
It should have been:

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XODE1OTI4MDA=.html



Streuth! That was like pulling teeth - coming from China in 3 second
spurts??

Anyway, heard the little 'borrowed bit' - I'll have to find a snatch of
Lionel Hampton doing pretty much the same thing!


.....which means I'll have to play a load of Lionel Hampton reconds to find
summat!!

Ho hum....



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Old November 9th 09, 11:03 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:49:15 -0000, "Keith G"
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"Don Pearce" wrote



Is this what you are after?

http://81.174.169.10/odds/DBnoclicks.mp3

I used Izotope RX to do that. If I had some groove noise without music
to sample, I could have got rid of loads more.



OK, I've got a copy of Izotope RX on the go and have made a pretty close
copy using only the Declicker with the following settings:

Quality = High

Sensitivity = 3.0

Max Click Width = 2.0 ms


I used the default settings, whatever they were.

Is this anything like your settings? Other than the quality setting, mine
are pretty much 'out of the box' - I'll experiment with it as time goes on,
naturally.

Also, did you use any other process? They didn't seem too relevant to me at
this point, other than 'Rectal Repair' which seemed like a possibly good
idea some time in the future...??


The spectral repair thing does work given the right circumstances. It
uses the audio either side of a major piece of damage to fill in the
gap. So it works really well during a legato passage, but don't bother
trying it on a piece of Messaien.

The denoiser and hum removal work really well. Make sure to set the
hum remover to 50Hz - it comes as 60Hz as default.

The declipper works just like every declipper I ever saw - the
waveform looks convincing, but generally sounds no better.

One of the best buttons is the second one of the right hand group.
With this one you can select a small piece from the spectral display
and remove it. I used it the other day to get rid of some blackbird
song that got itself all over a recording.

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Old November 9th 09, 11:12 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Iain Churches[_2_]
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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Sorry. Posted a link to the wrong version of "Killer Joe"
It should have been:

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XODE1OTI4MDA=.html



Streuth! That was like pulling teeth - coming from China in 3 second
spurts?


You should have put the player on pause while it loaded.


Anyway, heard the little 'borrowed bit'

Good. It was played in almost seamlessly


- I'll have to find a snatch of
Lionel Hampton doing pretty much the same thing!


....which means I'll have to play a load of Lionel Hampton reconds to find
summat!!


That's an admirable way to spend a few hours before lunch:-)
I have just come across some Lionel Hampton/Teddy Wilson tracks
on vinyl which I had forgotten all about. I feel another
transcription session looming:-)

Iain


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Old November 9th 09, 11:21 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G[_2_]
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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:49:15 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote



Is this what you are after?

http://81.174.169.10/odds/DBnoclicks.mp3

I used Izotope RX to do that. If I had some groove noise without music
to sample, I could have got rid of loads more.



OK, I've got a copy of Izotope RX on the go and have made a pretty close
copy using only the Declicker with the following settings:

Quality = High

Sensitivity = 3.0

Max Click Width = 2.0 ms


I used the default settings, whatever they were.



OK. I did at first but found an appreciable difference between the default
'Medium' setting and the 'High Quality' setting.


The spectral repair thing does work given the right circumstances. It
uses the audio either side of a major piece of damage to fill in the
gap. So it works really well during a legato passage, but don't bother
trying it on a piece of Messaien.



I wonder if I would ever get round to using it - none of it means much to me
at this point!



The denoiser and hum removal work really well. Make sure to set the
hum remover to 50Hz - it comes as 60Hz as default.



Not surprising.



The declipper works just like every declipper I ever saw - the
waveform looks convincing, but generally sounds no better.




OK - wouldn't know, I don't have a pair of declippers here! (**** - reminds
me I've got a hedge to cut!!)

But I do got two Alps pots arrived this morning (1 x 50K and 1 x 100K like I
asked for), so there may be a 'wiring question' at some point soon - my
'electronics/soldering head' is all but gone now and I wasn't smart enough
to photograph the 'dogs bowl' in a way that clearly showed the wiring when I
robbed the Alps out of it!!



One of the best buttons is the second one of the right hand group.
With this one you can select a small piece from the spectral display
and remove it. I used it the other day to get rid of some blackbird
song that got itself all over a recording.



Second from the left button in the right hand group is the 'Time Frequency
Selection Tool'...??

Or are you talking about the tabs in the 'Spectral Repair' dialogue box??



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Old November 9th 09, 11:25 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G[_2_]
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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Sorry. Posted a link to the wrong version of "Killer Joe"
It should have been:

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XODE1OTI4MDA=.html



Streuth! That was like pulling teeth - coming from China in 3 second
spurts?


You should have put the player on pause while it loaded.



Oh, I just left it to get on with it when I saw how slow it was going to be!



That's an admirable way to spend a few hours before lunch:-)



Hah, you'll be lucky! Didn't I tell you I've got *44* Lionel Hampton
LPs...??

And at least one boxed set somewhere!



I have just come across some Lionel Hampton/Teddy Wilson tracks
on vinyl which I had forgotten all about. I feel another
transcription session looming:-)



Ho hum, all go ain't it? :-)



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Old November 9th 09, 11:34 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:21:48 -0000, "Keith G"
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Second from the left button in the right hand group is the 'Time Frequency
Selection Tool'...??


That's it. You drag a box around the bit you want to remove and press
delete.

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Old November 9th 09, 12:03 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:21:48 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:

Second from the left button in the right hand group is the 'Time Frequency
Selection Tool'...??


That's it. You drag a box around the bit you want to remove and press
delete.



Okey dokey - thanks for that.

Seems a capable bit of software (if I could get the right head on for it)
but I wonder if I need much more than the 'declicker' - as I have said a few
times now: I don't have enough active brain cells left to waste them on
software frills that I don't actually need!

Nice little bit of Lionel Vionel on the cooker as I type - trying to find a
particular bit for Iain!! (If Sound Forge doesn't tell me my 'virtual drive'
is full and simply stop recording again - how fekk'n tough does it have to
be, when what you are doing is only for ****s and giggles?)




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Old November 9th 09, 12:20 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:03:29 -0000, "Keith G"
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Seems a capable bit of software (if I could get the right head on for it)
but I wonder if I need much more than the 'declicker' - as I have said a few
times now: I don't have enough active brain cells left to waste them on
software frills that I don't actually need!


The denoiser is good too. Have a listen to this. I recorded it
speaking from the far side of the room, the mic being on the desk
above my PC. You can hear what it does, and it is pretty impressive.

http://81.174.169.10/odds/denoise.mp3

d
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Old November 9th 09, 12:52 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G[_2_]
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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:03:29 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:

Seems a capable bit of software (if I could get the right head on for it)
but I wonder if I need much more than the 'declicker' - as I have said a
few
times now: I don't have enough active brain cells left to waste them on
software frills that I don't actually need!


The denoiser is good too. Have a listen to this. I recorded it
speaking from the far side of the room, the mic being on the desk
above my PC. You can hear what it does, and it is pretty impressive.

http://81.174.169.10/odds/denoise.mp3



OK, that's pretty convincing - I concede that will have to played about with
at some point!

I meant to say the Izotope RX I've got is a 'portable' version (plays off
the Desktop) but it don't like Vista at all! You can get as far as 'open
file' (or whatever) but you just get a blank box to choose from - it won't
let you navigate the computer to find files!

Sound Forge doesn't like Vista much either - it takes multiple attempts to
get it to start recording and it is poised to freeze at the least
provocation - like typing emails and ng posts! It means I've got to port my
recorded stuff to my other computer, which is an isolated (non-networked) XP
machine, where both progs run fine (and quick) but where I can't directly
record in SF without picking up a 'heartbeat' (disk activity?) in the
recording!!




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Old November 9th 09, 03:12 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G[_2_]
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote



Anyway, heard the little 'borrowed bit'

Good. It was played in almost seamlessly


- I'll have to find a snatch of
Lionel Hampton doing pretty much the same thing!


....which means I'll have to play a load of Lionel Hampton reconds to
find summat!!




OK, here's 'Stardust' from the 'Hampton Hits' album:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...20Stardust.mp3

And again from the '54 'Apollo Hall Concert' disc:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...ardust%202.mp3


Both mono, both 'declicked' and both showing the subtle (and not so subtle)
differences of different performances on different occasions - not to
mention both vastly different recordings!


 




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