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In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
Many companies record in the same venues, St. John's.
Smith Square is a good example. Each recording sounds
different regardless of being made in the same acoustic
space.

One would hope so. Not much calling for lots of identical recordings...

--
*I started out with nothing... and I still have most of it.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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"Iain Churches" wrote in message


The ignorance, which has been evident all along, is
yours, trying to substitute real hands on experience
of many years, for your armchair expertise.

Tall words from someone who never actually did any recording: never chose or
positioned a mic, never aligned a recorder, never pushed a record button
with live musicans playing, and never cut a tape with a razor blade and
spliced it, in his entire professional career.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in
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In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
Have you ever heard a decent big band live in a good
venue, Iain?

Not only heard but recorded big bands in many locations
around Europe, including Copenhagen, the Rudolfinum
(Prague) and
the Queen Elizabeth Hall. and the Round House
in London. Do these meet your criteria as good venues?

I also *play* in a semi-pro big band.

How can you be so ignorant of what they sound like live,
then?

Simple. It is simple physics. One body can't be in two places at the same
time. Musicians can't possibly know what their playing sounds like to a
live audience since they can't play and be in the audience at the same time.

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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message


The ignorance, which has been evident all along, is
yours, trying to substitute real hands on experience
of many years, for your armchair expertise.

Tall words from someone who never actually did any recording: never chose
or positioned a mic, never aligned a recorder, never pushed a record
button with live musicans playing, and never cut a tape with a razor blade
and spliced it, in his entire professional career.

LOL:-)

Hold on, Arny the men in white coats will be along in a minute.
Why don't you listen to "Domine" while you are waiting:-)

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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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Frankly Iain, there more 'artifice' in a recording the worse, I feel -
all
this *technology trickery* stems from people trying to create the
'perfect
sound forever' on crappy CDs, I suspect....

But digital reverb for example makes it all so easy. *Dozens* of preset
effects in a 2U box!

It was much more fun to use a lift shaft, and stick a speaker in the
bottom and a mic at the top, and use that for reverb, or put the
drum kit out in the stair well, with a wet tea towel towel on the
top head of the snare drum, and a sack of spuds inside the
bass drum.. We don't have fun like that anymo-(


Not surprised - can't always find a wet tea towel when you want one, can
you?

@;-)

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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message


The ignorance, which has been evident all along, is
yours, trying to substitute real hands on experience
of many years, for your armchair expertise.

Tall words from someone who never actually did any recording: never chose
or positioned a mic, never aligned a recorder, never pushed a record
button with live musicans playing, and never cut a tape with a razor
blade
and spliced it, in his entire professional career.

LOL:-)

Hold on, Arny the men in white coats will be along in a minute.
Why don't you listen to "Domine" while you are waiting:-)



Poor old Amy - you can almost smell the *fear* can't you!!

(I bet *pushing the button* is the toughest part!! :-))

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"Iain Churches" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message


The ignorance, which has been evident all along, is
yours, trying to substitute real hands on experience
of many years, for your armchair expertise.

Tall words from someone who never actually did any
recording: never chose or positioned a mic, never
aligned a recorder, never pushed a record button with
live musicans playing, and never cut a tape with a razor
blade and spliced it, in his entire professional career.

We can take absence of a documented denial of the above as agreement on
Iain's part that no, he has never been a hands-on professional recordist.

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Iain Churches wrote:
"Eiron" wrote in message
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Iain Churches wrote:

In a studio situation the importance of the acoustic environment
is greatly diminished. You can treat each section of the band as a
separate entity and place it in the acoustic of youe choice, by use
of reverb.So you can have The Manchester Free Trade Hall for
the brass, and the V+A for the woodwinds.
You would put the brass in a double room with the woodwind in the
bathroom.
The Free Trade Hall has been a hotel for years.

It was a great venue - the scene of many fine Halle Orchestra
projects.The front of the building was splendid. Was it completely
demolished?

The facade is still there. It's the Radisson Edwardian Hotel now.
I misspent my youth there listening to James Loughran and the Hallé.

--
Eiron.

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"Eiron" wrote in message
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Iain Churches wrote:
"Eiron" wrote in message
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Iain Churches wrote:

In a studio situation the importance of the acoustic environment
is greatly diminished. You can treat each section of the band as a
separate entity and place it in the acoustic of youe choice, by use
of reverb.So you can have The Manchester Free Trade Hall for
the brass, and the V+A for the woodwinds.
You would put the brass in a double room with the woodwind in the
bathroom.
The Free Trade Hall has been a hotel for years.

It was a great venue - the scene of many fine Halle Orchestra
projects.The front of the building was splendid. Was it completely
demolished?

The facade is still there. It's the Radisson Edwardian Hotel now.
I misspent my youth there listening to James Loughran and the Hallé.

I can'ät think of a better way to misspend ones youth:-))

At least the site is not a Tesco's car park.
All the same, very sad. Hopefully the Halle found a
new venue.

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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message


The ignorance, which has been evident all along, is
yours, trying to substitute real hands on experience
of many years, for your armchair expertise.

Tall words from someone who never actually did any
recording: never chose or positioned a mic, never
aligned a recorder, never pushed a record button with
live musicans playing, and never cut a tape with a razor
blade and spliced it, in his entire professional career.

We can take absence of a documented denial of the above as agreement on
Iain's part that no, he has never been a hands-on professional recordist.

Hang on just a bit longer Arny. Take another Valium,
Those nice men in the white coats will be along very soon
Meanwhile, listen to "Domine" once again.

Iain